(03-31-2015 11:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  How does CUSA now own the Boca Raton bowl instead of the MAC? It is played on our campus so I dont get this?

So do the AAC and CUSA just trade this every other year?

Again I dont know how Florida Atlantic's conference doesnt own a bowl hosted in our on campus stadium.

The Boca Bowl is an ESPN owned Bowl. The only conference owned bowls Im aware of are the Bahama Bowl (owned by CUSA) and the Miami Bowl (owned by the AAC). All the MW bowls are in member stadiums, yet none are owned by the Mountain West or those schools. The Armed Forces Bowl is in TCU's stadium---but TCU doesn't own it. The Military Bowl is in the Navy stadium but Navy doesn't own it. The Boca Bowl situation is actually pretty common.

(03-31-2015 12:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 11:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  How does CUSA now own the Boca Raton bowl instead of the MAC? It is played on our campus so I dont get this?

So do the AAC and CUSA just trade this every other year?

Again I dont know how Florida Atlantic's conference doesnt own a bowl hosted in our on campus stadium.

The Boca Bowl is an ESPN owned Bowl. The only conference owned bowls Im aware of are the Bahama Bowl (owned by CUSA) and the Miami Bowl (owned by the AAC). All the MW bowls are in member stadiums, yet none are owned by the Mountain West or those schools. The Armed Forces Bowl is in TCU's stadium---but TCU doesn't own it. The Military Bowl is in the Navy stadium but Navy doesn't own it. The Boca Bowl situation is actually pretty common.

Yes I worded it wrong. How does the MAC have the permanent spot there when one of our schools is the host site?

Did CUSA just prefer to go every other year to Miami or Boca or something?

(03-31-2015 12:40 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 12:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 11:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  How does CUSA now own the Boca Raton bowl instead of the MAC? It is played on our campus so I dont get this?

So do the AAC and CUSA just trade this every other year?

Again I dont know how Florida Atlantic's conference doesnt own a bowl hosted in our on campus stadium.

The Boca Bowl is an ESPN owned Bowl. The only conference owned bowls Im aware of are the Bahama Bowl (owned by CUSA) and the Miami Bowl (owned by the AAC). All the MW bowls are in member stadiums, yet none are owned by the Mountain West or those schools. The Armed Forces Bowl is in TCU's stadium---but TCU doesn't own it. The Military Bowl is in the Navy stadium but Navy doesn't own it. The Boca Bowl situation is actually pretty common.

Yes I worded it wrong. How does the MAC have the permanent spot there when one of our schools is the host site?

Did CUSA just prefer to go every other year to Miami or Boca or something?

Its part of a G5 pool of new bowls where the participating G5 leagues rotate slots. That said, I believe ESPN and the G5 pool bowls have made it clear that some horse trading might occur to obtain better matchups or to move in teams that might be better geographic fits.

(03-31-2015 01:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 12:40 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 12:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 11:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  How does CUSA now own the Boca Raton bowl instead of the MAC? It is played on our campus so I dont get this?

So do the AAC and CUSA just trade this every other year?

Again I dont know how Florida Atlantic's conference doesnt own a bowl hosted in our on campus stadium.

The Boca Bowl is an ESPN owned Bowl. The only conference owned bowls Im aware of are the Bahama Bowl (owned by CUSA) and the Miami Bowl (owned by the AAC). All the MW bowls are in member stadiums, yet none are owned by the Mountain West or those schools. The Armed Forces Bowl is in TCU's stadium---but TCU doesn't own it. The Military Bowl is in the Navy stadium but Navy doesn't own it. The Boca Bowl situation is actually pretty common.

Yes I worded it wrong. How does the MAC have the permanent spot there when one of our schools is the host site?

Did CUSA just prefer to go every other year to Miami or Boca or something?

Its part of a G5 pool of new bowls where the participating G5 leagues rotate slots.

Alright so which bowls are rotating and how is it done then? I read that the MAC has a permanent spot in Boca for some odd reason.

(03-31-2015 01:44 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 01:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 12:40 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 12:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 11:27 AM)Ragu Wrote:  How does CUSA now own the Boca Raton bowl instead of the MAC? It is played on our campus so I dont get this?

So do the AAC and CUSA just trade this every other year?

Again I dont know how Florida Atlantic's conference doesnt own a bowl hosted in our on campus stadium.

The Boca Bowl is an ESPN owned Bowl. The only conference owned bowls Im aware of are the Bahama Bowl (owned by CUSA) and the Miami Bowl (owned by the AAC). All the MW bowls are in member stadiums, yet none are owned by the Mountain West or those schools. The Armed Forces Bowl is in TCU's stadium---but TCU doesn't own it. The Military Bowl is in the Navy stadium but Navy doesn't own it. The Boca Bowl situation is actually pretty common.

Yes I worded it wrong. How does the MAC have the permanent spot there when one of our schools is the host site?

Did CUSA just prefer to go every other year to Miami or Boca or something?

Its part of a G5 pool of new bowls where the participating G5 leagues rotate slots.

Alright so which bowls are rotating and how is it done then? I read that the MAC has a permanent spot in Boca for some odd reason.

Odds are CUSA will play the MAC next year in the Boca Bowl. I imagine the AAC will buyout CUSA in the Miami by their spot in the BOCA bowl. My guess it will happen later this spring. My money is on the ACC getting the spot. They have a every other year deal with St. Pete, so it makes sense for the ACC to try and get this bowl for the Non-St. Pete year to get back to 10 bowls.

I think we have a permanent spot in the Bahamas, AAC is Miami and MAC is Boca. There is a decent pool of games that will get the best matchups each year. Its a pretty good idea imho.

(03-31-2015 02:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I think we have a permanent spot in the Bahamas, AAC is Miami and MAC is Boca. There is a decent pool of games that will get the best matchups each year. Its a pretty good idea imho.

Part of the motivation was to keep schools from getting burned out going to the same place year after year.

I won't turn my nose up to local bowls...

If Memphis has a good season, send us to B'ham to play an SEC team...if not, send us to Little Rock to play ASU...it's better than the alternative (sitting at home like 6-6 Temple)

(03-31-2015 03:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 02:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I think we have a permanent spot in the Bahamas, AAC is Miami and MAC is Boca. There is a decent pool of games that will get the best matchups each year. Its a pretty good idea imho.

Part of the motivation was to keep schools from getting burned out going to the same place year after year.

That's why its a great idea. Look at Boise, if they don't go to the Fiesta its the Las Vegas Bowl every frickin year. You have to change it up every now and then or folks get bored.

Sounds like CUSA may be involved with the AAC in the new Austin, Texas bowl as well.

(04-01-2015 08:27 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 03:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 02:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I think we have a permanent spot in the Bahamas, AAC is Miami and MAC is Boca. There is a decent pool of games that will get the best matchups each year. Its a pretty good idea imho.

Part of the motivation was to keep schools from getting burned out going to the same place year after year.

That's why its a great idea. Look at Boise, if they don't go to the Fiesta its the Las Vegas Bowl every frickin year. You have to change it up every now and then or folks get bored.

Yeah, what punishment. Watching your favorite team play in Las Vegas every year. Oh the horror.

(03-31-2015 02:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I think we have a permanent spot in the Bahamas, AAC is Miami and MAC is Boca. There is a decent pool of games that will get the best matchups each year. Its a pretty good idea imho.

CUSA bought the bowl after the rotation was announced/set (1st 4yrs MAC IIRC). CUSA can bump a team if they want and give the displaced conference another tie in for that particular year. Not sure Bahamas is more attractive (attendance wise) than other CUSA bowls...except for possibly Hawaii. The AAC tie (scheduled for 3...already gave up 1) will be in play if a Miami trade option becomes available in those years.

Curious has anyone heard if the Tucson submitted yesterday? Today is the deadline for any bowls to occur this year. I really think the NCAA should only approve one more bowl for this year. Increase the bowl teams by 4 with the Cure and on other. Then see how many teams are available next year. To me it makes sense if there are four or more teams left home, then maybe look at a new bowl. If it is 3 or less, I think the wise choice is to stand pat. While I like bowl games, I really don't want to see a 5-7 team go to a game because they have a High APR.

(03-30-2015 01:23 PM)monarchman Wrote:  Another MWC bowl is not a bad thing. However another eastern bowl would have been nice.

As long as you are not in that MWC bowl with Boise State...

(04-01-2015 09:43 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 08:27 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 03:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 02:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I think we have a permanent spot in the Bahamas, AAC is Miami and MAC is Boca. There is a decent pool of games that will get the best matchups each year. Its a pretty good idea imho.

Part of the motivation was to keep schools from getting burned out going to the same place year after year.

That's why its a great idea. Look at Boise, if they don't go to the Fiesta its the Las Vegas Bowl every frickin year. You have to change it up every now and then or folks get bored.

Yeah, what punishment. Watching your favorite team play in Las Vegas every year. Oh the horror.

Coming from a fan base that spends groundhogs day in the superdome for the last 4 years, I can see why you have no problem with it.

(04-01-2015 10:37 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 09:43 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 08:27 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 03:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 02:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I think we have a permanent spot in the Bahamas, AAC is Miami and MAC is Boca. There is a decent pool of games that will get the best matchups each year. Its a pretty good idea imho.

Part of the motivation was to keep schools from getting burned out going to the same place year after year.

That's why its a great idea. Look at Boise, if they don't go to the Fiesta its the Las Vegas Bowl every frickin year. You have to change it up every now and then or folks get bored.

Yeah, what punishment. Watching your favorite team play in Las Vegas every year. Oh the horror.

Coming from a fan base that spends groundhogs day in the superdome for the last 4 years, I can see why you have no problem with it.

Alternately I guess we could do something really stupid like telling them to hold off while we shop around for a better offer.

I think the bowl games should be replaced with a playoff like they do at the FCS level. If they did that in the FBS, we would have many different programs making it to the finals and semi finals every year. The way it is now, it is designed so that the P5 schools usually win. I don't think its fair for schools like Marshall, ECU and Boise State to be legit programs and be limited in who they face and how high they can rank. (Marshall was undefeated for like 10 weeks and never made lower than #21, I believe. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.) I think every conference should have power house teams. If it were done this way, recruits would not always end up at Alabama, Florida State, Ohio State and LSU, thus making say a game like ODU vs Tennessee more interesting, instead of ODU being automatically classified as the underdog before a single football is airborne! I HATE this P5 nonsense! I love it when schools like GSU beat Florida or when Boise State beat Oklahoma or when WKU beat Kentucky! Playoff systems work in Basketball, why can't they do this in football? Oh, because the bowl games make more money for some people behind the scenes!!!

(04-01-2015 10:56 AM)ODUAlumni2015 Wrote:  I think the bowl games should be replaced with a playoff like they do at the FCS level. If they did that in the FBS, we would have many different programs making it to the finals and semi finals every year. The way it is now, it is designed so that the P5 schools usually win. I don't think its fair for schools like Marshall, ECU and Boise State to be legit programs and be limited in who they face and how high they can rank. (Marshall was undefeated for like 10 weeks and never made lower than #21, I believe. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.) I think every conference should have power house teams. If it were done this way, recruits would not always end up at Alabama, Florida State, Ohio State and LSU, thus making say a game like ODU vs Tennessee more interesting, instead of ODU being automatically classified as the underdog before a single football is airborne! I HATE this P5 nonsense! I love it when schools like GSU beat Florida or when Boise State beat Oklahoma or when WKU beat Kentucky! Playoff systems work in Basketball, why can't they do this in football? Oh, because the bowl games make more money for some people behind the scenes!!!

Yeah I don't know about that; I can really only think of 1 G5 school, Boise State that would have had legitimate shot at a hypothetical semi-final or final championship. Nothing against Marshall or ECU which had good teams.

Football is a totally different animal than basketball where yes G5 schools have a legitimate shot at championships

(04-01-2015 10:49 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 10:37 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 09:43 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 08:27 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 03:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Part of the motivation was to keep schools from getting burned out going to the same place year after year.

That's why its a great idea. Look at Boise, if they don't go to the Fiesta its the Las Vegas Bowl every frickin year. You have to change it up every now and then or folks get bored.

Yeah, what punishment. Watching your favorite team play in Las Vegas every year. Oh the horror.

Coming from a fan base that spends groundhogs day in the superdome for the last 4 years, I can see why you have no problem with it.

Alternately I guess we could do something really stupid like telling them to hold off while we shop around for a better offer.

Enjoy the Sunbelt. because you are never leaving it.

I would have preferred the new bowl be in Macon, GA and pit a lower level SEC team like the Liberty Bowl used to (or an Atlantic Coast Conference team) against the CUSA team.

They could call it the MACON BACON BOWL.

They already have the T-shirts made...and it is 100% organic to attract all the health nuts to the game!