The thought behind all of this is to rethink the G5 conferences (For FB only). Instead of being competitors, poaching from one another, and putting each other down why not strive to exist as one conference together? I mean we only have one spot in the new CFP anyway. I say lets restructure the conferences based on Geography. This model would help spread out the talent between the five conferences. So at the end of the year the G5 could present 5 conference champions that are name brand teams and nationally respected. Instead of the CFP just hoping that Boise does well enough to make the Access bowl.

We have 63 teams in the G5. In this model I assume BYU and Army will remain Independent. That leaves us with 61 teams. 5 conferences (4 with 12 and 1 with 13). The current G5 conferences could manage theses new G5 geographic divisions. Each Division would have good markets and good recruiting states.

Here are the new divisions:

G5 West (MWC) (BYU)
West East
1. Hawaii 1. Boise St.
2. San Diego St. 2. Idaho
3. San Jose St. 3. Wyoming
4. Fresno St. 4. Utah St.
5. UNLV 5. Air Force
6. Nevada 6. Colorado St.

G5 SouthWest (CUSA)
West East
1. New Mexico 1. SMU
2. New Mexico St. 2. Houston
3. UTEP 3. Rice
4. Tulsa 4. North Texas
5. UTSA 5. Arkansas St.
6. Texas St. 6. Louisiana Tech

G5 East (AAC)(Army)
North South
1. UMASS 1. Old Dominion
2. UCONN 2. ECU
3. Temple 3. App St.
4. Navy 4. Charlotte
5. Cincinnati 5. Memphis
6. Marshall 6. Middle Tennessee St.
7. Western Kentucky

G5 MidWest (MAC)
West East
1. Northern Illinois 1. Buffalo
2. Ball St. 2. Toledo
3. Western Michigan 3. Akron
4. Central Michigan 4. Bowling Green
5. Eastern Michigan 5. Ohio
6. Miami (OH) 6. Kent St.

G5 SouthEast (SBC)
West East
1. Louisiana-Lafayette 1. South Florida
2. Louisiana Monroe 2. Central Florida
3. Tulane 3. FAU
4. Southern Miss 4. FIU
5. Troy 5. Georgia Southern
6. South Alabama 6. Georgia St.



Thoughts?

Please stop. I would vote for the AAC over that abomination

The AAC and MWCstill have some hope of carving out a nice niche for ourselves,the other conconferences, not so much.In short,we have no incentive to join the other sinking ships on this proposal.

What do you do about the TV deals? Doesn't it weaken some (AAC, MWC, etc.) while strengthening others (SBC, MAC)?

(03-26-2015 09:44 AM)prisonmike Wrote:  The thought behind all of this is to rethink the G5 conferences (For FB only). Instead of being competitors, poaching from one another, and putting each other down why not strive to exist as one conference together?

Because not all G5 teams or conferences are equal. There is still a pecking order. Geography is a relatively minor priority.

can I shoot myself now?

jfc....I commend the attempt...

you're just whiffing the reason 'it's' happening

do you honestly believe that any of the above will happen?

let's step on further....

if it did with all things being equal in a sub-par division.....why would anyone give two shites about it....

the crux is getting pushed to another tier....IMO, that's the fight worth fighting....

other than the local sponge factor, I see zero value breaking out of the construct.....

disclaimer: I really don't think the g5 has a chance in totality....too much money working against....

(03-26-2015 09:55 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 09:44 AM)prisonmike Wrote:  The thought behind all of this is to rethink the G5 conferences (For FB only). Instead of being competitors, poaching from one another, and putting each other down why not strive to exist as one conference together?

Because not all G5 teams or conferences are equal. There is still a pecking order. Geography is a relatively minor priority.

This. Sun Belt and CUSA and the MAC are the only ones that think everyone is equal.

No.

#1 There is conference realignment board for poop threads like this

#2 UCF wouldn't be able to sell any season tickets with that schedule

#3 How about Georgia State play a couple of years in the FBS before they attempt to talk like they know the situation. You guys are still very new to all this. It didn't surprise any of us that an FCS team can come out of no where and win the Sunbelt. Sunbelt has been a laughing stock for awhile.

Rethinking this thread location

College Sports and Conference Realignment
http://csnbbs.com/forum-637.html

(03-26-2015 10:01 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 09:55 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 09:44 AM)prisonmike Wrote:  The thought behind all of this is to rethink the G5 conferences (For FB only). Instead of being competitors, poaching from one another, and putting each other down why not strive to exist as one conference together?

Because not all G5 teams or conferences are equal. There is still a pecking order. Geography is a relatively minor priority.

This. Sun Belt and CUSA and the MAC are the only ones that think everyone is equal.

Exactly,Sun Belt and Conf USA are the first two to sink,have no desire to have sny part of this crazy talk.

(03-26-2015 09:44 AM)prisonmike Wrote:  The thought behind all of this is to rethink the G5 conferences (For FB only). Instead of being competitors, poaching from one another, and putting each other down why not strive to exist as one conference together? I mean we only have one spot in the new CFP anyway. I say lets restructure the conferences based on Geography. This model would help spread out the talent between the five conferences. So at the end of the year the G5 could present 5 conference champions that are name brand teams and nationally respected. Instead of the CFP just hoping that Boise does well enough to make the Access bowl.

We have 63 teams in the G5. In this model I assume BYU and Army will remain Independent. That leaves us with 61 teams. 5 conferences (4 with 12 and 1 with 13). The current G5 conferences could manage theses new G5 geographic divisions. Each Division would have good markets and good recruiting states.

Here are the new divisions:

G5 West (MWC) (BYU)
West East
1. Hawaii 1. Boise St.
2. San Diego St. 2. Idaho
3. San Jose St. 3. Wyoming
4. Fresno St. 4. Utah St.
5. UNLV 5. Air Force
6. Nevada 6. Colorado St.

G5 SouthWest (CUSA)
West East
1. New Mexico 1. SMU
2. New Mexico St. 2. Houston
3. UTEP 3. Rice
4. Tulsa 4. North Texas
5. UTSA 5. Arkansas St.
6. Texas St. 6. Louisiana Tech

G5 East (AAC)(Army)
North South
1. UMASS 1. Old Dominion
2. UCONN 2. ECU
3. Temple 3. App St.
4. Navy 4. Charlotte
5. Cincinnati 5. Memphis
6. Marshall 6. Middle Tennessee St.
7. Western Kentucky

G5 MidWest (MAC)
West East
1. Northern Illinois 1. Buffalo
2. Ball St. 2. Toledo
3. Western Michigan 3. Akron
4. Central Michigan 4. Bowling Green
5. Eastern Michigan 5. Ohio
6. Miami (OH) 6. Kent St.

G5 SouthEast (SBC)
West East
1. Louisiana-Lafayette 1. South Florida
2. Louisiana Monroe 2. Central Florida
3. Tulane 3. FAU
4. Southern Miss 4. FIU
5. Troy 5. Georgia Southern
6. South Alabama 6. Georgia St.



Thoughts?

Sign me up

these things are horrific for AAC teams ..theyd make sense for every other g5..cause theyd get geographic and bigger brand teams (aka our teams)

but you have to realize for us, we won't be interested ..we'd lose all the brands in our league, and dilute it.. we'd all lose money, lose ticket sales, tv money, national interest ..and a ton more

your asking ucf to give up ECU for FAU
asking cincy to give up ucf for wku
asking houston to give up navy for unt
asking memphis to give up houston in football for app st and charlotte

AAC would lose in this deal..badly

You guys in the AAC get mad so quickly. I am sorry I didn't know there was a thread for realignment talk. My bad. Have fun hoarding all the good teams, beating yourselves up and sitting at home while Boise goes the the Access bowl every year.

(03-26-2015 10:22 AM)pesik Wrote:  these things are horrific for AAC teams ..theyd make sense for every other g5..cause theyd get geographic and bigger brand teams (aka our teams)

but you have to realize for us, we won't be interested ..we'd lose all the brands in our league, and dilute it.. we'd all lose money, lose ticket sales, tv money, national interest ..and a ton more

your asking ucf to give up ECU for FAU
asking cincy to give up ucf for wku
asking houston to give up navy for unt
asking memphis to give up houston in football for app st and charlotte

AAC would lose in this deal..badly

This idea was for FB only.

Enough already. Realigning the G5 is like realigning the deck chairs on the Titanic.

(03-26-2015 10:24 AM)prisonmike Wrote:  You guys in the AAC get mad so quickly. I am sorry I didn't know there was a thread for realignment talk. My bad. Have fun hoarding all the good teams, beating yourselves up and sitting at home while Boise goes the the Access bowl every year.

Since when is the AAC hoarding all the good teams? Last I checked, the MWC Mountain Division is better than their whole conference.

Eventually one of the G5s is going to get aggressive and bring the remaining powers together, probably anchored by BYU if they are available. UConn, Cincinnati, Boise, some of the other AAC schools, etc. - they don't think of themselves as being in the same pool as other G5 schools. If none of these conferences act soon enough, you'll just see those last handful of borderline P5 schools get in somehow.

Before we think this just becomes Boise every year, a weaker league actually helps a team run the table. There were a lot of average teams in the AAC this year but Boise had some real goose eggs on their schedule. That being said, year-by-year changes are going to be huge. Harsin's first two years at Boise are huge and I think we'd all have to agree year 1 was a success. Compare this to Diaco's first year at UConn which was a complete disaster and a much more difficult schedule for them next year. Don't discount Cincinnati as a lock for 9 or more wins every year the way things are setup now too.

Won't happen.

AAC stans are hilarious. Our division alone had more 10+ win teams than your entire conference. If our schedule was a "goose-egg," then what do you call yours?