(03-26-2015 04:33 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:10 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  I know many of my ECU brethren disagree but I think we should invite ODU now too. Good for Basketball, Football is only going to improve. Go ahead and bring them in now so that when UCONN and CINN or whoever is leaving this conference goes were not caught with our a## hanging out. We need to work harder to get Army on board. I just can't believe they wouldn't want to be in a conference with Navy.

No thanks.ODU football program is still essentially a start up.Recruits in the 757 look at the school as a 3 or 4th choice.They are going to struggle for the next decade before they turn the corner,basketball is more down than up.

Huh? If you're going to talk out of your ass at least stand up so we can understand you.

(03-26-2015 11:44 AM)lollaperuna Wrote:  I really don't understand the obsession with expansion on this board. Every thread turns into a "lets add .........(fill in the blank)".

Bigger will not make us better.

This.

And, expansion is just as likely to come from the other direction as well, once Texas and OU (and perhaps 2 others) accept an offer for the Pac 12.

That would start a feeding frenzy in itself.

There is a reason the Big 12 hasn't expanded. Texas already agreed to TCU and WVU. I simply don't see them going forward with adding more teams as opposed to shopping their wares elsewhere.

That would leave an SWC implosion scenario, in which the carcass gets picked by the AAC/MWC, like the WAC/CUSA did with the former SWC.

(03-25-2015 10:03 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Let's invite odu for all sports and Army for football. 14 for football and 12 for hoops.

Interesting proposal, but not right now. But if we had to join a conference, it should be the AAC.

(03-25-2015 10:05 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Army doesn't want to join so stop it

We are P5 now. We can't lose our place in the club and I just got my P5 t-shirt.

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

That's why we sell out all football games, plan to build a larger stadium, and average around 7k+ in basketball. You are very off base.

(03-26-2015 12:20 PM)monarchman Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

That's why we sell out all football games, plan to build a larger stadium, and average around 7k+ in basketball. You are very off base.

LOL true...ODU outdraws at least 50% of the ACC right now in Football

I'm talking actual butts in seats not some magical number announced.

(03-26-2015 12:46 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  LOL true...ODU outdraws at least 50% of the ACC right now in Football

I'm talking actual butts in seats not some magical number announced.

How do you know the difference between the actual butts in seats and this "magical number"?
Are you using an eye test?

What does this eye test tell you? This is Syracuse football, buddy.

(03-26-2015 11:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 04:33 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:10 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  I know many of my ECU brethren disagree but I think we should invite ODU now too. Good for Basketball, Football is only going to improve. Go ahead and bring them in now so that when UCONN and CINN or whoever is leaving this conference goes were not caught with our a## hanging out. We need to work harder to get Army on board. I just can't believe they wouldn't want to be in a conference with Navy.

No thanks.ODU football program is still essentially a start up.Recruits in the 757 look at the school as a 3 or 4th choice.They are going to struggle for the next decade before they turn the corner,basketball is more down than up.

Huh? If you're going to talk out of your ass at least stand up so we can understand you.

Happy to say it againODU is a 3rd or 4th choice in the 757 and is essentially a start up that has not proven it can win at the FBS level.It will take a decade to prove it turn corner in football. I rreally do not think it was that hard to understand the first time.

(03-26-2015 12:20 PM)monarchman Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

That's why we sell out all football games, plan to build a larger stadium, and average around 7k+ in basketball. You are very off base.

What you just wrote does not change my premise.Really not impressed.

(03-26-2015 12:46 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 12:20 PM)monarchman Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

That's why we sell out all football games, plan to build a larger stadium, and average around 7k+ in basketball. You are very off base.

LOL true...ODU outdraws at least 50% of the ACC right now in Football

I'm talking actual butts in seats not some magical number announced.

Syracuse has no right to rag on anyone with anything to do with football.

(03-26-2015 10:12 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  If we are ever in a conference with ODU again ,ECU football is in trouble and whatever dreams we had of improving our lot in life are over.

You are exactly right, and my post was referring to if we are somehow left on the outside looking in with no chance of playing in the new division of college football. If we are completely left out with no other options Id much rather play App Charlotte ODU and Coastal than Tulsa, Temple, SMU, and Tulane. Sorry not sorry.

You say no one will buy a ticket if we are in the same conference as them. I think if it got to that point we wouldnt be selling tickets regardless if it was Temple or App coming to town.

Obviously we need to keep chopping wood and hope we can break through at some point

(03-26-2015 12:58 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 04:33 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:10 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  I know many of my ECU brethren disagree but I think we should invite ODU now too. Good for Basketball, Football is only going to improve. Go ahead and bring them in now so that when UCONN and CINN or whoever is leaving this conference goes were not caught with our a## hanging out. We need to work harder to get Army on board. I just can't believe they wouldn't want to be in a conference with Navy.

No thanks.ODU football program is still essentially a start up.Recruits in the 757 look at the school as a 3 or 4th choice.They are going to struggle for the next decade before they turn the corner,basketball is more down than up.

Huh? If you're going to talk out of your ass at least stand up so we can understand you.

Happy to say it againODU is a 3rd or 4th choice in the 757 and is essentially a start up that has not proven it can win at the FBS level.It will take a decade to prove it turn corner in football. I rreally do not think it was that hard to understand the first time.

I won't argue that we're not attracting the top level of the 757 yet and the rest is speculation so I'll just say we'll see but I'd love to hear you defend that last comment about being more down than up.

(03-26-2015 01:01 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 12:20 PM)monarchman Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

That's why we sell out all football games, plan to build a larger stadium, and average around 7k+ in basketball. You are very off base.

What you just wrote does not change my premise.Really not impressed.

ODU has the most potential out of anyone in the c-usa. They fit like a glove in our region. I think they get 35k a game with an aac schedule and obviously a bigger stadium

(03-26-2015 12:58 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 04:33 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:10 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  I know many of my ECU brethren disagree but I think we should invite ODU now too. Good for Basketball, Football is only going to improve. Go ahead and bring them in now so that when UCONN and CINN or whoever is leaving this conference goes were not caught with our a## hanging out. We need to work harder to get Army on board. I just can't believe they wouldn't want to be in a conference with Navy.

No thanks.ODU football program is still essentially a start up.Recruits in the 757 look at the school as a 3 or 4th choice.They are going to struggle for the next decade before they turn the corner,basketball is more down than up.

Huh? If you're going to talk out of your ass at least stand up so we can understand you.

Happy to say it againODU is a 3rd or 4th choice in the 757 and is essentially a start up that has not proven it can win at the FBS level.It will take a decade to prove it turn corner in football. I rreally do not think it was that hard to understand the first time.

The only thing to understand is how wrong you are. You're sounding like a JMU fan.
It's fair to admit part of our success is contributed to being the only show in town in a large metro area, and the hottest ticket at that.

(03-26-2015 01:02 PM)gopirates11 Wrote:  Id much rather play App Charlotte ODU and Coastal than Tulsa, Temple, SMU, and Tulane. Sorry not sorry.

LMAO. ok. Bold words from a fan of one of the last teams invited to the party...

I like ECU. I think ECU is a good fit in the AAC. If you want to be in a MAC style bus league, I am fine with that.
I, on the other hand, like the traditions of every school in our conference. We've pretty much all been players at the highest level, either through affiliations or achievements. I can't imagine playing a bunch of scrubs that never did anything on a national level.

I like the AAC too and would like to see us grow and develop as a conference. But if the time comes and we lose lets say, UCF USF UCONN Cincy and wheover else, Id rather be in a regional conference (bus league) than a spread out conference like the current CUSA. If ECU is left out of the club and isnt a part of a "new division" wouldnt it make sense to play regional teams?


In no way am I saying Id rather have that regional conference now instead of the current AAC

(03-26-2015 01:01 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 12:20 PM)monarchman Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

That's why we sell out all football games, plan to build a larger stadium, and average around 7k+ in basketball. You are very off base.

What you just wrote does not change my premise.Really not impressed.

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(03-26-2015 01:13 PM)gopirates11 Wrote:  I like the AAC too and would like to see us grow and develop as a conference. But if the time comes and we lose lets say, UCF USF UCONN Cincy and wheover else, Id rather be in a regional conference (bus league) than a spread out conference like the current CUSA. If ECU is left out of the club and isnt a part of a "new division" wouldnt it make sense to play regional teams?


In no way am I saying Id rather have that regional conference now instead of the current AAC

^^^^
This. Swap "ECU" for "UC" and this is pretty much how I feel too.

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

HRVA is definitely a market and ODU is an incredibly important part of that market. We are the major public university for an area with a population of 1.7 million with ~25,000 active students.

ODU is not an important presence?? Looks like you need to make a trip to Norfolk soon to refresh your memory.

(03-26-2015 01:35 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

:wingedeagle: HRVA is definitely a market and ODU is an incredibly important part of that market. We are the major public university for an area with a population of 1.7 million with ~25,000 active students.

ODU is not an important presence?? Looks like you need to make a trip to Norfolk soon to refresh your memory.

Never been to your area, but I watched part of 2 different odu home games. Crowd was into it and it was packed although a very small stadium. I can only imagine the potential grows if you ever get the chance to get into the aac with overall bigger fanbases and more exposure. I bet you guys end up #1 on our list of we ever need an all sports team.

(03-26-2015 01:35 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 11:43 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Why is it that every time a Conf Usa o r Sun Belt team has a nice win they are suddenly in line to join the league?
Tidewater/Norfolk area is not a market that ODU even comes close to being an important presence

HRVA is definitely a market and ODU is an incredibly important part of that market. We are the major public university for an area with a population of 1.7 million with ~25,000 active students.

ODU is not an important presence?? Looks like you need to make a trip to Norfolk soon to refresh your memory.

Lived in the area for several years, your not fooling anyone who knows the area with what type of influence ODU carries in the Tidewater region with the general population and with high school players .This is not a pejorative just an honest observation.