For whatever reason, I was unable to copy the link about Univ of Buffalo planning to use alumni donations so that they could make a salary offer to Bobby Hurley which would make him the highest paid MAC coach. Just google Bobby Hurley and you can find the article.

Sounds like UB is pretty smart in knowing the positive image a winning program means to their bottom line that nets free publicity, attracts more students which increases revenue, and pays for the program.....win-win scenario.

I read that Butler's back to back final four increased their admission applications in the neighborhood of 30-40%

If and when EMU is able to hire a young and promising coach, we need to take note on how UB managed the situation.

Braun left EMU cupboards loaded but bad hire after bad hire dismantled our once promising tradition.

I can't wait for Heather Lykes next hire when Murphy is gone next season or the following season when his contract expires.

Murphy ball failed!!!!

Murphy was hired for his Detroit connections. The ironic thing is that he doesn't really recruit Detroit.

Maybe next year we can rehire Ben? He'll only be 62...

Buffalo once offered to find me job, true it was the women's coach.

(03-25-2015 03:00 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Murphy was hired for his Detroit connections. The ironic thing is that he doesn't really recruit Detroit.

Maybe next year we can rehire Ben? He'll only be 62...

From what I've seen he doesn't recruit much in the way of high school.

If you're using the criteria that EMU basketball hasn't return to the glory years of Ben Braun I guess you could call Murphy a failure. As much I get frustrated with Murphy from time to time he has at least returned EMU to a plus .500 the past two years and we're no longer a first round loser in the MAC tourney. While its great to have high expectation for the program you need a foundation to build on which is why I prefer high school recruits over immediate transfers. CMU and WMU have a done a solid job building their programs with local Michigan high school talent. The EMU brand isn't what it needs to be in either men's hoops or football. There are a multitude of reasons for that but isn't because either Creighton or Murphy aren't recruiting Michigan high school players hard. They are. I say we let the two years play out and see where we are. Either we move up the ladder and Murphy gets an extension or we don't and we hire a new coach.

(03-25-2015 03:30 PM)emu79 Wrote:  If you're using the criteria that EMU basketball hasn't return to the glory years of Ben Braun I guess you could call Murphy a failure. As much I get frustrated with Murphy from time to time he has at least returned EMU to a plus .500 the past two years and we're no longer a first round loser in the MAC tourney. While its great to have high expectation for the program you need a foundation to build on which is why I prefer high school recruits over immediate transfers. CMU and WMU have a done a solid job building their programs with local Michigan high school talent. The EMU brand isn't what it needs to be in either men's hoops or football. There are a multitude of reasons for that but isn't because either Creighton or Murphy aren't recruiting Michigan high school players hard. They are. I say we let the two years play out and see where we are. Either we move up the ladder and Murphy gets an extension or we don't and we hire a new coach.

Only because we play a pathetic weak schedule, and has only recruited juniors and seniors from jucos with a few d1 transfers and even fewer high schoolers. No offense offense and a single zone defense. If that is improvement we could have done it cheaper by rehiring boone.

(03-25-2015 03:48 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 03:30 PM)emu79 Wrote:  If you're using the criteria that EMU basketball hasn't return to the glory years of Ben Braun I guess you could call Murphy a failure. As much I get frustrated with Murphy from time to time he has at least returned EMU to a plus .500 the past two years and we're no longer a first round loser in the MAC tourney. While its great to have high expectation for the program you need a foundation to build on which is why I prefer high school recruits over immediate transfers. CMU and WMU have a done a solid job building their programs with local Michigan high school talent. The EMU brand isn't what it needs to be in either men's hoops or football. There are a multitude of reasons for that but isn't because either Creighton or Murphy aren't recruiting Michigan high school players hard. They are. I say we let the two years play out and see where we are. Either we move up the ladder and Murphy gets an extension or we don't and we hire a new coach.

Only because we play a pathetic weak schedule, and has only recruited juniors and seniors from jucos with a few d1 transfers and even fewer high schoolers. No offense offense and a single zone defense. If that is improvement we could have done it cheaper by rehiring boone.

You repeat the same 3 things you hate about the program in every post. COFFEE!!!!

(03-25-2015 04:19 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 03:48 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 03:30 PM)emu79 Wrote:  If you're using the criteria that EMU basketball hasn't return to the glory years of Ben Braun I guess you could call Murphy a failure. As much I get frustrated with Murphy from time to time he has at least returned EMU to a plus .500 the past two years and we're no longer a first round loser in the MAC tourney. While its great to have high expectation for the program you need a foundation to build on which is why I prefer high school recruits over immediate transfers. CMU and WMU have a done a solid job building their programs with local Michigan high school talent. The EMU brand isn't what it needs to be in either men's hoops or football. There are a multitude of reasons for that but isn't because either Creighton or Murphy aren't recruiting Michigan high school players hard. They are. I say we let the two years play out and see where we are. Either we move up the ladder and Murphy gets an extension or we don't and we hire a new coach.

Only because we play a pathetic weak schedule, and has only recruited juniors and seniors from jucos with a few d1 transfers and even fewer high schoolers. No offense offense and a single zone defense. If that is improvement we could have done it cheaper by rehiring boone.

You repeat the same 3 things you hate about the program in every post. COFFEE!!!!

All he left out was that we dunk too much.

The weak schedule is such a ridiculous point. Look around the MAC you will see similar non-conference opponents. Michigan and Michigan St are big name majors. Dayton is a top mid-major program. Missouri St and Oakland are MAC level programs. Some very losable games and then some cupcakes. There might have been 1-2 more cupcakes than need be, but otherwise this was a very normal non-conference schedule. Look at what other MAC schools did, look at what Braun used to schedule.

Add the fact that last year EMU played the hardest non-conference schedule I have ever seen. There is plenty to criticize about the current program (and plenty to praise). A weak schedule is not one of the criticisms. Leave it alone.

The excessive coffee use is funny for some reason. So I don't mind if you keep doing that.

(03-25-2015 04:44 PM)rayEMU Wrote:  The weak schedule is such a ridiculous point. Look around the MAC you will see similar non-conference opponents. Michigan and Michigan St are big name majors. Dayton is a top mid-major program. Missouri St and Oakland are MAC level programs. Some very losable games and then some cupcakes. There might have been 1-2 more cupcakes than need be, but otherwise this was a very normal non-conference schedule. Look at what other MAC schools did, look at what Braun used to schedule.

Add the fact that last year EMU played the hardest non-conference schedule I have ever seen. There is plenty to criticize about the current program (and plenty to praise). A weak schedule is not one of the criticisms. Leave it alone.

The excessive coffee use is funny for some reason. So I don't mind if you keep doing that.

Last year schedule was ranked even weaker than this years. 4 naia teams and a tournament that brought in 3 dust bunnies. And you people screamed the best team since 1997!

(03-25-2015 03:00 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Murphy was hired for his Detroit connections. The ironic thing is that he doesn't really recruit Detroit.

Maybe next year we can rehire Ben? He'll only be 62...

Actually EMU does.

I was in Detroit twice this year.

I went to two S.E. Michigan high school games and one coach was at one game and two coaches at the other game.

I understand the coaches have been working OT this month on recruiting.

Detroit has been a tough sell for EMU. Remember the program was in very bad shape four years ago.

Hopefully things are getting better in S.E. MI. Things take time.

(03-25-2015 04:19 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 03:48 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 03:30 PM)emu79 Wrote:  If you're using the criteria that EMU basketball hasn't return to the glory years of Ben Braun I guess you could call Murphy a failure. As much I get frustrated with Murphy from time to time he has at least returned EMU to a plus .500 the past two years and we're no longer a first round loser in the MAC tourney. While its great to have high expectation for the program you need a foundation to build on which is why I prefer high school recruits over immediate transfers. CMU and WMU have a done a solid job building their programs with local Michigan high school talent. The EMU brand isn't what it needs to be in either men's hoops or football. There are a multitude of reasons for that but isn't because either Creighton or Murphy aren't recruiting Michigan high school players hard. They are. I say we let the two years play out and see where we are. Either we move up the ladder and Murphy gets an extension or we don't and we hire a new coach.

Only because we play a pathetic weak schedule, and has only recruited juniors and seniors from jucos with a few d1 transfers and even fewer high schoolers. No offense offense and a single zone defense. If that is improvement we could have done it cheaper by rehiring boone.

You repeat the same 3 things you hate about the program in every post. COFFEE!!!!

not hate bob and only because you people keep repeating the same nonsense over and over and over, we turned it around wait till next we really played a tough schedule we only lost 3 games by 6 points not telling peope that we had a total ofb50 point lead!

If only we had made a few more dunks we could have been playing ing the ncaa tournament! It's the team that tics me off its you people over hyping nonsense!

(03-25-2015 06:33 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 03:00 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Murphy was hired for his Detroit connections. The ironic thing is that he doesn't really recruit Detroit.

Maybe next year we can rehire Ben? He'll only be 62...

Actually EMU does.

I was in Detroit twice this year.

I went to two S.E. Michigan high school games and one coach was at one game and two coaches at the other game.

I understand the coaches have been working OT this month on recruiting.

Detroit has been a tough sell for EMU. Remember the program was in very bad shape four years ago.

Hopefully things are getting better in S.E. MI. Things take time.

Murphy has been at for over 4 years!

We are going to have at least 4 seniors again next year! And more than likely we will one or two more! That is proof he can't recruit! 16 seniors in 3 years!

(03-25-2015 07:48 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  We are going to have at least 4 seniors again next year! And more than likely we will one or two more! That is proof he can't recruit! 16 seniors in 3 years!

Super, there are only three young men who will be seniors next year.
Samuels
Ajayi
Nazione

(03-25-2015 06:33 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 03:00 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Murphy was hired for his Detroit connections. The ironic thing is that he doesn't really recruit Detroit.

Maybe next year we can rehire Ben? He'll only be 62...

Actually EMU does.

I was in Detroit twice this year.

I went to two S.E. Michigan high school games and one coach was at one game and two coaches at the other game.

I understand the coaches have been working OT this month on recruiting.

Detroit has been a tough sell for EMU. Remember the program was in very bad shape four years ago.

Hopefully things are getting better in S.E. MI. Things take time.

OK. I'll clarify my statement. He doesn't recruit Detroit effectively.

As we looked back at this past year it will be looked on as a year of huge missed opportunity to really put this program on the map. Our conference play was horrible considering the ability of this team which really most of us thought wasn't going to do as well as last year's team. Its a testament to Murphy that he did get a large number of players to jell and also an indictment that they didn't have a winning conference record.

(03-26-2015 08:37 AM)KPJ Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 07:48 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  We are going to have at least 4 seniors again next year! And more than likely we will one or two more! That is proof he can't recruit! 16 seniors in 3 years!

Super, there are only three young men who will be seniors next year.
Samuels
Ajayi
Nazione

Martin junior, hunter grad student

(03-26-2015 09:38 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 08:37 AM)KPJ Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 07:48 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  We are going to have at least 4 seniors again next year! And more than likely we will one or two more! That is proof he can't recruit! 16 seniors in 3 years!

Super, there are only three young men who will be seniors next year.
Samuels
Ajayi
Nazione

Martin junior, hunter grad student

Hunter was a senior this year. Martin is not a scholarship player.