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JMU Graduate Accounting #18 (LinkedIn Rankings)
LinkedIn - "We ranked universities based on how successful recent graduates have been at landing desirable accounting jobs."

#1 UNC
#2 Texas
#3 Wisconsin
#4 Notre Dame
#6 Vanderbilt
#8 Wake Forest
#10 Baylor
#18 James Madison
#20 William & Mary
#25 Fairfield U

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Nice to see some recognition for the program. I feel like it doesn't get the respect it deserves on most accounting program rankings. A few years back the program had the highest pass rate on the CPA exam in the nation. As of a few years ago, 3 of the Big 4 had JMU categorized as a national top tier program, the third firm (Ernst and Young/E&Y/EY) didn't have a national category then but had JMU has a top regional program.
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JMU accounting undergrad and grad is top notch. Grads can pick and choose their employer when graduating, and often see good signing bonuses.
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I am a proud under grad of the COB...Acct/Fin. I had a job before I graduated which was great.

It's interesting to me that Accounting/COB has never directly asked me to contribute to the COB. I have on my own a few times.

I would be much more likely to donate if I received communications from JMU telling me about COB achievements since I left campus. My donation would not get a broom closet named after me but a few hundred bucks a year over of a career adds up.

A college buddy that I studied with and sat next to all through school is a partner at Tysons KPMG, unfortunately, we have lost touch over the years. If he is not being solicited, damn, what a lost opportunity.
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(03-25-2015 09:37 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I am a proud under grad of the COB...Acct/Fin. I had a job before I graduated which was great.

It's interesting to me that Accounting/COB has never directly asked me to contribute to the COB. I have on my own a few times.

I would be much more likely to donate if I received communications from JMU telling me about COB achievements since I left campus. My donation would not get a broom closet named after me but a few hundred bucks a year over of a career adds up.

A college buddy that I studied with and sat next to all through school is a partner at Tysons KPMG, unfortunately, we have lost touch over the years. If he is not being solicited, damn, what a lost opportunity.

Therein lies the biggest issue I have with our fund raising efforts. The majority of friends that I graduated with (and we are prime target-market age) many of whom are successful, have never been contacted by anyone at JMU about giving. We have a very haphazard method of farming for donations.

JMU should run fund raising like a business within the business. Complete with a full blown CRM, every single alum should be contacted and developed with a full-blown database developed and managed like it was a for profit business. I would have a telemarketing department, not students (unless it was managed and graded for a sales class) that developed leads. Those leads would then be passed on to closers (aka relationship managers) Every single contact the university made with an alum would be recorded into the data. With each contact, the communication made more personal. The information is out there, we are just not systematically collecting it. We are throwing darts and spending too little time with too few of the right people.

This isn't rocket science- it's basic sales, 101.
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(03-25-2015 09:37 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I am a proud under grad of the COB...Acct/Fin. I had a job before I graduated which was great.

It's interesting to me that Accounting/COB has never directly asked me to contribute to the COB. I have on my own a few times.

I would be much more likely to donate if I received communications from JMU telling me about COB achievements since I left campus. My donation would not get a broom closet named after me but a few hundred bucks a year over of a career adds up.

A college buddy that I studied with and sat next to all through school is a partner at Tysons KPMG, unfortunately, we have lost touch over the years. If he is not being solicited, damn, what a lost opportunity.

I would argue that under Gowan things have changed. I am a COB graduate and work at a Big 4 company and Gowan has been pretty up front with us on the achievements and answered anything I may have asked.
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I have no clue what JMU does and I'm certainly not going to make excuses for them given our dismal track record for alumni gifts. However, I do not buy the "they never call" reasoning. I received 3+ calls while I was in the 1 year Accounting Masters program. During those calls, I told them the same thing every time, "I'm currently in school living off student loans and not interested in giving back at this time." Since I made my first donation that next year, I have received very few calls asking me to donation more money or more frequent. I have received a couple "thank you" calls but they don't ask for more money. Additionally I have donated twice a year since I graduated in 2012 thru my firms charity website and it took till this past January for someone at JMU to try and develop a relationship with me as a donor. That is where they could improve in my opinion. (1) They appear to have a shotgun approach with recent grads and then just let them fall off the radar if they receive a few nos and (2) they don't turn $100 donors into $500 donors into $1,000 donors and so forth and so forth as they advance in their career and life.

Now my experience with an individual from the Office of Development has been awesome since in January. We met for coffee, he greatly increased my knowledge of alumni giving, he followed up, he "made changes to my file" (so that database is there somewhere) and he asked for a few names of fellow alumni he could reach out too. He even explained that I was not getting those same "please donate" calls from when I was in the Masters program because I was taken off that list and transition to the "thank you" call list. Honestly, he knocked basic sales 101 out of the park. Unfortunately he was an MBA student and will probably leave once he graduates.

The one thing that really annoys me. I got a call from a 540-568-2713 number tonight. NO VOICEMAIL. They never leave a voicemail. For the life of me, I do not understand it. I never know if it is someone from the Duke Club, Madison Connection or COB as I receive calls from all three. Seriously, it is the worst.
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(03-25-2015 07:43 PM)TXGiant Wrote:  Therein lies the biggest issue I have with our fund raising efforts. The majority of friends that I graduated with (and we are prime target-market age) many of whom are successful, have never been contacted by anyone at JMU about giving. We have a very haphazard method of farming for donations.

JMU should run fund raising like a business within the business. Complete with a full blown CRM, every single alum should be contacted and developed with a full-blown database developed and managed like it was a for profit business. I would have a telemarketing department, not students (unless it was managed and graded for a sales class) that developed leads. Those leads would then be passed on to closers (aka relationship managers) Every single contact the university made with an alum would be recorded into the data. With each contact, the communication made more personal. The information is out there, we are just not systematically collecting it. We are throwing darts and spending too little time with too few of the right people.

This isn't rocket science- it's basic sales, 101.

We do have a CRM database that we use for fundraising purposes. I can't remember the name of it (starts with an A) but it's used to track all contact/donations/etc with alumni. I had some access to it while working one of my student positions a few years ago. I won't say we track every little contact (mail or phone call) but it does track meetings and things like that on top of donations and demographic data.
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(03-25-2015 09:37 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I am a proud under grad of the COB...Acct/Fin. I had a job before I graduated which was great.

It's interesting to me that Accounting/COB has never directly asked me to contribute to the COB. I have on my own a few times.

I would be much more likely to donate if I received communications from JMU telling me about COB achievements since I left campus. My donation would not get a broom closet named after me but a few hundred bucks a year over of a career adds up.

A college buddy that I studied with and sat next to all through school is a partner at Tysons KPMG, unfortunately, we have lost touch over the years. If he is not being solicited, damn, what a lost opportunity.

Your post should be blown up and stapled to a wall in the development office (or pasted to Nick's forehead). I promise you that your KPMG partner friend has been squeezed for money constantly. Once again we have evidence of JMU's biggest fund raising incompetence. JMU needs to stroke and reach out to everyone not just the super wealthy. With volume the small donations mount up. JMU would also be cultivating relationships that at some point might lead to much bigger donations.03-idea03-idea
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(03-25-2015 08:35 PM)CISDuke2014 Wrote:  
(03-25-2015 07:43 PM)TXGiant Wrote:  Therein lies the biggest issue I have with our fund raising efforts. The majority of friends that I graduated with (and we are prime target-market age) many of whom are successful, have never been contacted by anyone at JMU about giving. We have a very haphazard method of farming for donations.

JMU should run fund raising like a business within the business. Complete with a full blown CRM, every single alum should be contacted and developed with a full-blown database developed and managed like it was a for profit business. I would have a telemarketing department, not students (unless it was managed and graded for a sales class) that developed leads. Those leads would then be passed on to closers (aka relationship managers) Every single contact the university made with an alum would be recorded into the data. With each contact, the communication made more personal. The information is out there, we are just not systematically collecting it. We are throwing darts and spending too little time with too few of the right people.

This isn't rocket science- it's basic sales, 101.

We do have a CRM database that we use for fundraising purposes. I can't remember the name of it (starts with an A) but it's used to track all contact/donations/etc with alumni. I had some access to it while working one of my student positions a few years ago. I won't say we track every little contact (mail or phone call) but it does track meetings and things like that on top of donations and demographic data.

That's good to know. But the database, in and of itself, is of little value. Many businesses have CRM systems- but don't have the proper processes and accountability in place to maximize the system's usefulness.
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(03-25-2015 08:33 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  The one thing that really annoys me. I got a call from a 540-568-2713 number tonight. NO VOICEMAIL. They never leave a voicemail. For the life of me, I do not understand it. I never know if it is someone from the Duke Club, Madison Connection or COB as I receive calls from all three. Seriously, it is the worst.

i'll +1 this. If I miss calls from 540-568 I'd like to have the voicemail. Hell if I was a caller I would rather leave a message than talk to someone (introvert here believe it or not). One time I got a voicemail on a 540-568 number and it ended up being Suntrust wanting to talk about finance stuff. Must be the only number in Harrisonburg in the 568 exchange that isn't a JMU phone number.
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