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Could Jack and the Jeffco delegation filibuster the education budget? No budget until we get resignations?

I highly, highly doubt they would go down that path. That is essentially setting the building on fire. At any rate, I will be doubly shocked if budgets get passed before the end of the session anyway.

With the Bentley tax plan and the hole in the budget such that it is, we're going to see at lease one special session this year. Jack's bills may be procedural casualties of all of this budget mess

(03-25-2015 11:03 AM)linus Wrote:  Could Jack and the Jeffco delegation filibuster the education budget? No budget until we get resignations?

That would reduce the spending per pupil in the State of Alabama to zero.

I'm sure a certain poster would have something to say.

(03-25-2015 11:27 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  With the Bentley tax plan and the hole in the budget such that it is, we're going to see at lease one special session this year.

Maybe they should redirect some of the money from Watts' PR campaign and security detail, and the BOT commercials, and all the nondisclosure agreements, to funding education instead of raising taxes. I think that's a great question to ask Bentley. It sure seems like the broke education system has an awful lot of money sitting around to put out fires.

(03-25-2015 11:35 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:03 AM)linus Wrote:  Could Jack and the Jeffco delegation filibuster the education budget? No budget until we get resignations?

That would reduce the spending per pupil in the State of Alabama to zero.

I'm sure a certain poster would have something to say.

Well played.

(03-25-2015 12:06 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:35 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:03 AM)linus Wrote:  Could Jack and the Jeffco delegation filibuster the education budget? No budget until we get resignations?

That would reduce the spending per pupil in the State of Alabama to zero.

I'm sure a certain poster would have something to say.

Well played.

As a teacher, I highly doubt that a filibuster would go over very well. It may in fact alienate supports that we currently have.

With that said, I seriously doubt that an education budget or any budget for that matter gets passes in this session. I'm not so sure that it would get passes in one extra session.

with the budget issues being kicked down the road to a special sessions, that would actually free up space for Rep Jack's bills

(03-25-2015 12:18 PM)CourtsideBlazer Wrote:  with the budget issues being kicked down the road to a special sessions, that would actually free up space for Rep Jack's bills

Except that there's a weird procedural quirk that could prevent them from being passed until there's a budget passed.

(03-25-2015 01:15 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 12:18 PM)CourtsideBlazer Wrote:  with the budget issues being kicked down the road to a special sessions, that would actually free up space for Rep Jack's bills

Except that there's a weird procedural quirk that could prevent them from being passed until there's a budget passed.

Yep, according to the rules the legislature can not pass another bill until the budget is passed. I don't even think they can even discuss other bills until then, but I may be wrong about that part. Still, even if the budget doesn't pass until the 1st, 2nd or 3rd special session, I can not imagine that they can go home before taking up other issues. That would truly be a do nothing legislature.

(03-25-2015 01:39 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 01:15 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 12:18 PM)CourtsideBlazer Wrote:  with the budget issues being kicked down the road to a special sessions, that would actually free up space for Rep Jack's bills

Except that there's a weird procedural quirk that could prevent them from being passed until there's a budget passed.

Yep, according to the rules the legislature can not pass another bill until the budget is passed. I don't even think they can even discuss other bills until then, but I may be wrong about that part. Still, even if the budget doesn't pass until the 1st, 2nd or 3rd special session, I can not imagine that they can go home before taking up other issues. That would truly be a do nothing legislature.

They're passing bills now, but I think to get around that rule they have to have unanimous consent to override or something? Whatever it is, it works in such a way that a very small number of (or even one) legislators can derail a bill that would otherwise pass if the budget were done. This tactic delayed the Free the Hops bills from passing for at least one if not two years.

(03-25-2015 01:53 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 01:39 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 01:15 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 12:18 PM)CourtsideBlazer Wrote:  with the budget issues being kicked down the road to a special sessions, that would actually free up space for Rep Jack's bills

Except that there's a weird procedural quirk that could prevent them from being passed until there's a budget passed.

Yep, according to the rules the legislature can not pass another bill until the budget is passed. I don't even think they can even discuss other bills until then, but I may be wrong about that part. Still, even if the budget doesn't pass until the 1st, 2nd or 3rd special session, I can not imagine that they can go home before taking up other issues. That would truly be a do nothing legislature.

They're passing bills now, but I think to get around that rule they have to have unanimous consent to override or something? Whatever it is, it works in such a way that a very small number of (or even one) legislators can derail a bill that would otherwise pass if the budget were done. This tactic delayed the Free the Hops bills from passing for at least one if not two years.

if the budget has not been adopted, all bills must pass a preliminary BIR (budget isolation resolution) vote before they can be brought up before the house/senate. the BIR has to get 3/5 of the votes to pass. i listened to this vote many times while waiting for the free the hops bills to pass. i was hoping those days would be over.