(03-22-2015 05:46 PM)adcorbett Wrote: People from Syracuse should probably lighten up on telling someone to do research. We all know you all don't do your own research, and just get GA's or professors to do it for you.
The worst part is, I said they were offensive names. And you countered by... confirming they were changed because they were considered offensive names. Instead of telling me to do research, pay attention to what your posting guy writes you. Yes I could have spaced it out better (I merely added Orangemen after the fact labeling them as offensive terms, not intending to mean they were for Indian tribes ). But the fact remains, what I said, that the terms were offensive, you agreed with while telling me to do research.
You need to hire a new posting guy or something.
note this post is mostly sarcasm
Parts of my reply may be referencing sarcastic parts of your post, as sadly there is no sarcasm font. If so, ignore those parts.
"People from Syracuse should probably lighten up on telling someone to do research. We all know you all don't do your own research, and just get GA's or professors to do it for you." To be fair, the professor had nothing to do with Fab. That silliness was the result of athletic staff who got canned.
You initially said that "the difference is ... orangemen [is an] actual derogatory term for Native Americans and American Indian tribes." You did not say "I said they were offensive names," as merely being an "offensive name" is a far more general statement than the original one because it also encompasses non-Native American-based offensive names.
"But the fact remains, what I said, that the terms were offensive..." No, you didn't (see the above quote). Your statement erroneously listed a specific type of offensive term (i.e. those that are anti-Native American).
"...you agreed [with the original statement]." No, I didn't. I said that "[t]he name was changed because having 'Orangemen' and 'Orangewomen' was viewed to somehow be sexist." In no way, shape, or form does that agree with your original statement that "orangemen [is an] actual derogatory term for Native Americans and American Indian tribes." Additionally, the tone of my statement conveys my belief that there is *nothing* sexist about using the terms "Orangemen" and "Orangewomen" to refer to a school's men's and women's sports teams. I personally think that it's ridiculous and the result of PC going off the deep end. However, as my statement said, some "viewed [the name] to somehow be sexist."
I realize that I'm coming off a little hard, but in my honest opinion, this issue is ridiculous. I can kind of see the reasoning behind the anger over the name "Redskins" and possibly "Redmen" (depending how the name came about - were they named that because they were Indians or was their mascot an Indian because they had that name?), but the rest of it is stupid. It really is. Unfortunately, however, this issue seems to be growing. For example, you're accidentally trying to anoint a bunch of white Protestant Europeans as Native Americans and someone else (in another thread) tried to claim that the name "warriors" was anti-Native American. I could go on, but I think you get my point that the level of PC has gotten so extreme that names with either no relation to Native Americans or a tangential relation to Native Americans are suddenly "anti-Native" and "should be banned."