(03-22-2015 08:08 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(03-22-2015 07:46 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(03-22-2015 07:35 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  I imagine that the conference will give UAB a probationary period to get football started again. We'll see.

And in the meantime their recruiting would get destroyed, much like it did for Towson baseball.

Eh, this is worse. They literally have to start from scratch. All they have now is a head coach fighting for and hoping they bring it back. The assistants and players are all gone. They will essentially be a start-up. If it does happen, hopefully it will be in a new stadium and out from under the UA BOT. Otherwise, they will be doomed to fail.

I think Watts and the BOT will keep with their decision and UAB will go to the MVC (they are already talking). And their tourney win over Iowa State may make that sell easier. CUSA would be down to 13 teams. And with the Hawaii situation probably making an opening in the MWC, it will be 12 once UTEP bolts.

Word from my friends who live in Alabama is that the University will continue to railroad any efforts to restart UAB football.

I just don't see how it's even a possibility let alone a realistic hope that football would come back at UAB. Politics being what they are, once the decision was made I don't see how it stands a chance of being reversed. It's like when JMU put the ax on a couple of the sports in 2007 - all sorts of save the sports backlash to reinstate but there wasn't a chance of it happening. 8 years later there's still people campaigning against JMU for that. I mean, I get it, especially if it was your sport and you lived and breathed for it, I'd be mad too... but there's just no use carrying that torch anymore. Call me insensitive; fine, but being realistic it's not coming back. UAB football will be the same way.

(03-25-2015 01:45 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  I just don't see how it's even a possibility let alone a realistic hope that football would come back at UAB. Politics being what they are, once the decision was made I don't see how it stands a chance of being reversed. It's like when JMU put the ax on a couple of the sports in 2007 - all sorts of save the sports backlash to reinstate but there wasn't a chance of it happening. 8 years later there's still people campaigning against JMU for that. I mean, I get it, especially if it was your sport and you lived and breathed for it, I'd be mad too... but there's just no use carrying that torch anymore. Call me insensitive; fine, but being realistic it's not coming back. UAB football will be the same way.

Deez, I'm with you. We've all seen stranger things happen in our lives, but I will be shocked should it return in the next ten years. People will have to be gone from the UA system and almost forgotten why FB was dropped in the first place.

Using your example, I do believe some of those sports could return, but no time soon (probably not in my lifetime). For one thing, our male/female ratio must have a serious adjustment and that will not happen overnight.

There weren't thousands of people chanting, "FIRE LIN ROSE" at every basketball game after our sports cut either! We didn't have a state representative championing a return of sports & BOV reform. I think the situations are very different.

(03-25-2015 01:45 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  I just don't see how it's even a possibility let alone a realistic hope that football would come back at UAB. Politics being what they are, once the decision was made I don't see how it stands a chance of being reversed. It's like when JMU put the ax on a couple of the sports in 2007 - all sorts of save the sports backlash to reinstate but there wasn't a chance of it happening. 8 years later there's still people campaigning against JMU for that. I mean, I get it, especially if it was your sport and you lived and breathed for it, I'd be mad too... but there's just no use carrying that torch anymore. Call me insensitive; fine, but being realistic it's not coming back. UAB football will be the same way.

+1

(03-25-2015 02:11 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 01:45 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  I just don't see how it's even a possibility let alone a realistic hope that football would come back at UAB. Politics being what they are, once the decision was made I don't see how it stands a chance of being reversed. It's like when JMU put the ax on a couple of the sports in 2007 - all sorts of save the sports backlash to reinstate but there wasn't a chance of it happening. 8 years later there's still people campaigning against JMU for that. I mean, I get it, especially if it was your sport and you lived and breathed for it, I'd be mad too... but there's just no use carrying that torch anymore. Call me insensitive; fine, but being realistic it's not coming back. UAB football will be the same way.

+1

Nefarious actions by UA boosters for decades forced this to happen. It is despicable. It stinks. It is cronyism and collusion.

Now, clearly, UAB fans hadn't supported the program, but I can understand why when you aren't allowed to succeed. Want Jimbo Fisher as your HC? Nope, can't have him. Want to build new practice facilities? Nope, we won't let you. You already have the money pledged? Too bad.

That being said, I don't see the UAB situation changing either, because for anything to change, UAB would need it's own Board and autonomy. Alabama will never allow that to happen, as UAB's hospital is the University of Alabama School of Medicine. Big brother will always have the power over UAB.

I should add, UAB just gave their bball HC a $1mm salary, nearly a 500k jump.

If anything, this development makes it far more UNLIKELY that UAB will be bringing back football. NO way a school like UAB can pay their bball coach six figures AND run an FBS program.

(03-25-2015 03:04 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  I should add, UAB just have their bball HC a $1mm salary, nearly a 500k jump.

If anything, this development makes it far more UNLIKELY that UAB will be bringing back football. NO way a school like UAB can pay their bball coach six figure AND run and FBS program.

In the same announcement they said they are building a practice facility, adding LED lighting to the Bartow arena, and upping the mbb assistant coaches salaries. This I believe is the final death knell for both UAB Football, and for their membership in C*USA.

(03-25-2015 03:33 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 03:04 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  I should add, UAB just have their bball HC a $1mm salary, nearly a 500k jump.

If anything, this development makes it far more UNLIKELY that UAB will be bringing back football. NO way a school like UAB can pay their bball coach six figure AND run and FBS program.

In the same announcement they said they are building a practice facility, adding LED lighting to the Bartow arena, and upping the mbb assistant coaches salaries. This I believe is the final death knell for both UAB Football, and for their membership in C*USA.

Just read that. Also adding to the bball budget.

Now, to keep football, they'd have to go back on their promise to bball. Easy way to divert football funds elsewhere.

It's over for Blazer football.

Crazy. That's definitely one way to make the decision irreversible.

Two CUSA programs (ODU and La Tech) playing to go to the NIT semis in NYC tonight. Let's root for our future conference mates that plus the Mark Price hire at Charlotte should help keep CUSA on the upswing as a basketball conference for when JMU arrives.

UAB bball coach admits that they're leaving CUSA within 1 year. About 2 mins into the video.
http://www.wvtm13.com/sports/jerod-haase...b/32010940

(03-26-2015 12:27 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  UAB bball coach admits that they're leaving CUSA within 1 year. About 2 mins into the video.
http://www.wvtm13.com/sports/jerod-haase...b/32010940

I mean, most people assume this. The team was shuttered and C-USA bylaws require UAB to be a football member if they wish to retain membership. I can see how C-USA is dancing around the prospect of kicking them out, but they are just being polite. No need to kick a man when he's down, especially when their spring sports are finishing out their seasons.

(03-26-2015 12:31 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 12:27 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  UAB bball coach admits that they're leaving CUSA within 1 year. About 2 mins into the video.
http://www.wvtm13.com/sports/jerod-haase...b/32010940

I mean, most people assume this. The team was shuttered and C-USA bylaws require UAB to be a football member if they wish to retain membership. I can see how C-USA is dancing around the prospect of kicking them out, but they are just being polite. No need to kick a man when he's down, especially when their spring sports are finishing out their seasons.

It is the first official acknowledgment that CUSA is going to ask them to leave. I agree it was likely, but now we know that CUSA will be looking for #14.

(03-26-2015 12:27 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  UAB bball coach admits that they're leaving CUSA within 1 year. About 2 mins into the video.
http://www.wvtm13.com/sports/jerod-haase...b/32010940

With all this being poured into a now "Bball school", where would they be setting their sights? Big East? They'd be way out of any footprint. Same with the A-10.

Wonder where they hope to land with a million dollar coach and big $$$ pledges for improved facilities and stuff. (?)

(03-26-2015 12:40 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 12:27 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  UAB bball coach admits that they're leaving CUSA within 1 year. About 2 mins into the video.
http://www.wvtm13.com/sports/jerod-haase...b/32010940

With all this being poured into a now "Bball school", where would they be setting their sights? Big East? They'd be way out of any footprint. Same with the A-10.

Wonder where they hope to land with a million dollar coach and big $$$ pledges for improved facilities and stuff. (?)

MVC is the only option that has been leaked so far.

(03-26-2015 12:40 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 12:27 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  UAB bball coach admits that they're leaving CUSA within 1 year. About 2 mins into the video.
http://www.wvtm13.com/sports/jerod-haase...b/32010940

With all this being poured into a now "Bball school", where would they be setting their sights? Big East? They'd be way out of any footprint. Same with the A-10.

Wonder where they hope to land with a million dollar coach and big $$$ pledges for improved facilities and stuff. (?)

I think you have to look at the coach's new salary. What conference does it align with?

(03-26-2015 12:43 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 12:40 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-26-2015 12:27 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  UAB bball coach admits that they're leaving CUSA within 1 year. About 2 mins into the video.
http://www.wvtm13.com/sports/jerod-haase...b/32010940

With all this being poured into a now "Bball school", where would they be setting their sights? Big East? They'd be way out of any footprint. Same with the A-10.

Wonder where they hope to land with a million dollar coach and big $$$ pledges for improved facilities and stuff. (?)

MVC is the only option that has been leaked so far.

They would kind of be on an island out there if they were in the MVC. I also don't know how much value the MVC sees in them, but it's possible I suppose. I also imagine that the Southern, A-Sun or Sun Belt wouldreturn their calls if they inquired.

In a perfect world I think the Sun Belt admits them (makes sense geographically and financially) for olympic sports and that plants the seed down the line for an FBS to sponsor a potential football team.

I'm surprised that the A-10 wouldn't be in play. They have shown an interest in expanding their geographic footprint over the years and the all basketball leagues down south probably are below where UAB would want to be. if they joined the Sun Belt wouldn't they have the same issues as CUSA in that they would be groups with schools that value football.

(03-26-2015 03:30 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I'm surprised that the A-10 wouldn't be in play. They have shown an interest in expanding their geographic footprint over the years and the all basketball leagues down south probably are below where UAB would want to be. if they joined the Sun Belt wouldn't they have the same issues as CUSA in that they would be groups with schools that value football.

The A-10 is not interested in UAB at this point. Too far from any of the other teams, too unstable, no history or tie with any schools other than VCU. Not impossible, but rather unlikely.

The Belt currently has a revenue sharing model that forces football schools to share some football revenue with the basketball onlies. Unless that can be overcome, UAB might not get in the Belt. And even if they got a bid, I think its unlikely that the UA-BOT would allow UAB to take it, because demands would start immediately for them to start up FBS again. Much more likely than the A-10, but there are issues.

For UAB, the MVC makes the most sense. If that can't be worked out, UAB is likely in a world of additional hurt.