I think UAB would prefer to stay in CUSA. But if CUSA doesn't accommodate to the situation, then you likely will see UAB talking to the MVC, AAC, and A-10. If the MVC has legitimate interest in UAB, it is not unlikely that the AAC or A-10 might as well.

A-10 has too many teams. The AAC could have added someone already to balance Navy if that's what they wanted to do.

(03-21-2015 06:06 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  The conference could sign a deal with both UAB and UMass. UAB for basketball and UMass for football. The deal would be for a specific period of time, maybe 5 years. UAB would have until that time to bring back football or leave. UMass would have that time to bring their basketball or leave. In the meantime we have 14 basketball schools and 14 football.

That sounds terrible. Nobody wants to travel way up there for a bad team that none of us have any history or connection to.

And what do you do when UAB brings football back? Kick UMASS out or get stuck with 15 teams? That's worse than 14 ( which is saying something, because 14 is awful).

Give UAB a deadline (of like yesterday) and if they'll bring football back, we're back to an even nunber. If they don't we tough it out with 13 until we can figure out the best replacement (or somebody else leaves and we're at 12).

No need to get too crazy. Let's just hope UAB can get their team back.

(03-21-2015 08:29 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:12 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Craptacity seemed pretty self-explanatory to me.

It doesn't make sense.

Try sounding it out phonetically.

(03-21-2015 08:41 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:29 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:12 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Craptacity seemed pretty self-explanatory to me.

It doesn't make sense.

Try sounding it out phonetically.

If it means that you don't like it when we talk about the options for the conference going forward, then I have a suggestion for you on how to avoid those kinds of discussions. Maybe even two suggestions.

(03-21-2015 08:41 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:29 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:12 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Craptacity seemed pretty self-explanatory to me.

It doesn't make sense.

Try sounding it out phonetically.

I have a question for you....

My question is how did you get 55000+ post averaged out that's 15 post a day 365 days a year for the last 10 years. Do you post on any other boards other than this forum?

Duly noted. I'm out.

(03-21-2015 08:52 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:41 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:29 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:12 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Craptacity seemed pretty self-explanatory to me.

It doesn't make sense.

Try sounding it out phonetically.

I have a question for you....

My question is how did you get 55000+ post averaged out that's 15 post a day 365 days a year for the last 10 years. Do you post on any other boards other than this forum?

I spend most of my time on the UAB board. Not all the the cnbbs team boards are active, but UAB's is. Unless there's another one I don't know about, it's UAB's most active message board.

Smaug's input is some of the more sensible input that I've seen on these boards and I welcome his posts.

(03-21-2015 08:55 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  Smaug's input is some of the more sensible input that I've seen on these boards and I welcome his posts.

Thank you for the kind words. Admittedly this whole ordeal has gotten me a little punchy.

(03-21-2015 07:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:05 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 03:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Still gonna cash those NCAA tournament checks, I bet.

Shouldn't CUSA cash them? Man, every person on this board appears to hope that UAB keeps its football team and accommodations are made that UAB remains a member. You seem to have a complaint. If you do, what is it?

Having my team yanked away from me and then watching a conference of which we are a charter member pile on the craptacity has made me a little testy.

Remember, when you say "this school" or "that school" on a message board, you are talking to actual people(not players, coaches or administrators) with years of investment in said programs.

CUSA isn't the victim here. It's the people who love and fight for UAB against the very people who control it. We are in a real existential crisis as a university.

I doubt like hell my kid in the marching band wold enjoy this conversation much, either.

Free UAB!

(03-21-2015 03:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Still gonna cash those NCAA tournament checks, I bet.

This may come as a shock to you, but CUSA would have done just fine in the NCAA Tournament without ya.

(03-21-2015 08:44 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:41 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:29 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 08:12 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Craptacity seemed pretty self-explanatory to me.

It doesn't make sense.

Try sounding it out phonetically.

If it means that you don't like it when we talk about the options for the conference going forward, then I have a suggestion for you on how to avoid those kinds of discussions. Maybe even two suggestions.

Clearly the UAB faithful is hyper sensitive --dare I say OVER sensitive-- about UAB's future in (or out of) CUSA. I've never seen anything quite like this. I've received more "negative reputation" in the last week from UAB posters than I have in my entire lifetime on any forum. It's absurd. Supposed grown men on the CUSA board are using "negative rep" to essentially shout down what they DON'T want to hear. And it's simply because they don't want to hear ANY dissent, or any opinions that differ from their own.

Instead of taking a BUSINESS approach about it, it seems that most of the UAB faithful don't even want you discussing it. They don't want to hear about CUSA's options and what CUSA needs to do for the legitimate health of the conference.

To a certain extent, everyone in CUSA is going thru UAB's "football" turmoil together. I'm not happy about it. It does affect us all, hence the reason it's important to discuss the options available to both CUSA and UAB.

But regarding UAB's athletic future, if UAB truly intends to bring back football in 2016, isn't the first thing UAB has to do to rebuild the program is to FIRE President Watts? And that STILL hasn't happened yet. And in all sincerity, I ask why not? Why is Watts still UAB's leader? And how in the world do UAB fans think they can bring football back to life on campus with Watts still at the helm?

(03-21-2015 08:10 AM)Blazer85 Wrote:  Too many unanswered questions at this point:

1) Will UAB bring back football? Probably so, but at what point? 2016 or some time later?

2) Will CUSA change their bylaws if football isn't brought back by 2016? Probably not, but this hasn't been decided definitively yet.

UAB's success likely makes this decision more difficult, not just because of current earnings from the NCAA tournament but potential for future earnings in the years ahead (given we are the youngest team in the NCAA tournament field and could reach the Sweet 16 today).

If UAB doesn't bring back football, CUSA doesn't change their bylaws and UAB must leave:

I don't think one can say with certainty about which leagues would be off the table. Many don't think the A10, AAC, or MVC would go for UAB, but again no one really knows whether that would hold true or not.

Some of the ones who say that UAB wouldn't be a desirable addition don't really know much about UAB's basketball history or basketball history in general. UAB has 15 NCAA appearances (greater than many big names in the news now including Butler, VCU, San Diego St, Baylor, etc). We have 3 Sweet 16 appearances (with a chance for a 4th Sweet 16 with a win over UCLA today) and an Elite 8 appearance. That's not to say that we are one of the top 10 basketball programs of all-time or anything, but there are MANY conference members of the A10, AAC, and MVC that do not have even the history UAB has.

UAB was previously conference mates with many in the AAC (Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Memphis, UCF, USF, Cincinnati). Doesn't mean they would necessarily want us to rejoin them, particularly as a basketball only school. But I wouldn't rule it out completely.

Some say geography would keep us out of the A10 or MVC, but I think if we've learned anything from conference realignment, it is that geography seems to be less of an issue than many might have previously thought.

Houston was a member of the MVC back in the 1950's. So, geography for the MVC has been flexible enough in the past to handle a gulf coast member. I would bet Wichita would be very interested in adding another quality basketball program if UAB does become available.

(03-22-2015 10:54 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  Clearly the UAB faithful is hyper sensitive --dare I say OVER sensitive-- about UAB's future in (or out of) CUSA. Hyper sensitive was the correct term.

And how in the world do UAB fans think they can bring football back to life on campus with Watts and the BOT still at the helm? You can't.

You will not be able to talk rationally about this subject when you have some that are intentionally stirring the pot.

If UAB leaves CUSA, it'll be the leagues loss and another conferences good fortune. I'm hoping some accomadation can be made.

I don't think CUSA has to make any decision right now. Vote to allow UAB to stay for the upcoming athletic year and see what happens with their football. Readdress it before the end of next year. I wonder though if the MVC extends an invite if their admin would go ahead and accept. It would kind of put another nail in the football coffin.

(03-22-2015 12:49 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  I wonder though if the MVC extends an invite if their admin would go ahead and accept. It would kind of put another nail in the football coffin.

That is exactly my concern. With that one move he will seal the deal and we will be on the slow road to no where.

IF Watts weathers the storm the chance of UAB football is done.JMHO.


FIRE RAY WATTS!!!

(03-21-2015 04:11 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  How long did we give some of the 3.0 schools to get their football running? Let's give UAB that same amount of time plus a year.

2015 is the plus-1 year.

If UAB football is back up and running in 2016 at FCS level per NCAA rules, then it can't be back in full FBS until 2019--5th season after dropping the program. That would already be one more year than Charlotte will have had to get to full FBS--in 2016 in its 4th year after rejoining the conference.

That's why C-USA members must be provided with at least a timetable by the spring meetings. And a final decision needs to be made one way or the other by next January at the absolute latest.