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I was listening to a radio interview of a guy who is an expert on the finances of the NCAA tournament. He said that for every game played by a team in the tournament, their conference gets one $1.6 million. So regardless of which team got in from C-USA, the conference would have picked up the first $1.6 million, but with UAB advancing to the next round they picked up another one $1.6 million. Of course if they win again, UAB will have learned the conference an extra $3.2 million. Pretty soon that adds up to be real money.

This could obviously affect the C-USA decision on whether to throw us out because of the loss of football. The other presidents have to be thinking, with the team being so young UAB could really make some money for the conference in in the tournaments over the next few years. It's certainly something that the conference will need to consider.

Anything to buy us some time. I hope C-USA thinks about it long and hard.

That depends on the bylaws. If we voluntarily left the conference, our share of the NCAA units stay with C-USA. I don't know what the rule is if we are booted - if the conference gets to keep it all and cut us out of our share that's a financial incentive to throw us out.

(03-20-2015 07:06 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  That depends on the bylaws. If we voluntarily left the conference, our share of the NCAA units stay with C-USA. I don't know what the rule is if we are booted - if the conference gets to keep it all and cut us out of our share that's a financial incentive to throw us out.

Good point, but I was talking about money that UAB could make for C-USA over the next few years if we were allowed th stay in the conference. But you are right, the Tournament money is paid out in equal increments over a five-year period and like you I'm not sure whether we would continue to get our share that money if we were thrown out of the conference. However I think when some of the basketball only teams were thrown out earlier, the conference had to reimburse them for tournament money that would not be paid, but I could be wrong about that.

But one thing is sure, if they throw us out at the end of this year, C-USA Will not share in the money UAB could earn over the next three years and I would think that amount could be very substantial. These young kids are only going to get better.

(03-20-2015 07:06 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  That depends on the bylaws. If we voluntarily left the conference, our share of the NCAA units stay with C-USA. I don't know what the rule is if we are booted - if the conference gets to keep it all and cut us out of our share that's a financial incentive to throw us out.

There could be a lawsuit there. If they kick us out, but keep our money, sounds illegal.

(03-20-2015 07:39 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 07:06 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  That depends on the bylaws. If we voluntarily left the conference, our share of the NCAA units stay with C-USA. I don't know what the rule is if we are booted - if the conference gets to keep it all and cut us out of our share that's a financial incentive to throw us out.

There could be a lawsuit there. If they kick us out, but keep our money, sounds illegal.

They could argue that UAB did leave voluntarily, by knowingly violating the by-laws regarding football.

Oh, what a mess Dr. Death has created.

I'm pretty sure CUSA would not be viewed from a legal perspective of kicking UAB out of the conference.

Do you suppose Dr Watts will brag about depriving UAB of those millions by ending UAB football if that comes to pass? Maybe he always wanted a team that played High Point and Presbyterian as equals.

(03-20-2015 07:44 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 07:39 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 07:06 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  That depends on the bylaws. If we voluntarily left the conference, our share of the NCAA units stay with C-USA. I don't know what the rule is if we are booted - if the conference gets to keep it all and cut us out of our share that's a financial incentive to throw us out.

There could be a lawsuit there. If they kick us out, but keep our money, sounds illegal.

They could argue that UAB did leave voluntarily, by knowingly violating the by-laws regarding football.

Bingo. UAB, your wounds are self-inflicted.

(03-20-2015 08:39 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Do you suppose Dr Watts will brag about depriving UAB of those millions by ending UAB football if that comes to pass? Maybe he always wanted a team that played High Point and Presbyterian as equals.

I'm sure you are exactly right. Good input as always.

Well my point is that these numbers need to be calculated in the analysis of the financial data regarding football. While this might not be an ongoing loss on the balance ledger, it reflects potentially large sums of money lost based on the decision to end football, particularly if we continue to advance.

I agree on that it's more likely to be viewed as UAB being in violation of the by-laws as opposed to C-USA merely giving us the boot. As mentioned by the post above, there's a financial impact that can be measured pending the loss of conference affiliation so I hope it's to be included in discussions about the matter.

I would also add that our current success (and hopefully future success with a run in the NCAAs) also flies in the face of Watts claim that UAB is cutting football to try to win championships and be nationally relevant in other sports. Guess what Watts? We are already. With football.

(03-20-2015 09:21 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  I would also add that our current success (and hopefully future success with a run in the NCAAs) also flies in the face of Watts claim that UAB is cutting football to try to win championships and be nationally relevant in other sports. Guess what Watts? We are already. With football.

If anything this academic year has been the argument against Watts' claims. From football at the beginning to softball/baseball at the end we've seen it's not all about money. It's about hiring the right people

(03-20-2015 09:29 PM)biglizard Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 09:21 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  I would also add that our current success (and hopefully future success with a run in the NCAAs) also flies in the face of Watts claim that UAB is cutting football to try to win championships and be nationally relevant in other sports. Guess what Watts? We are already. With football.

If anything this academic year has been the argument against Watts' claims. From football at the beginning to softball/baseball at the end we've seen it's not all about money. It's about hiring the right people

Definitely.

A lot of issues with college boils down to having the right people. Diminishing returns is a real thing, and precisely why just pouring money on stuff rarely if ever solves problems.