(03-22-2015 12:13 AM)Burrito Wrote:  Stever, Utah is currently and has been ranked higher than Georgetown in the national polls. I was rooting for Georgetown but am not surprised Utah won. The big surprise today is Villanova. I was expecting Villanova and at least one of Xavier, Butler and Georgetown to advance.

How could you not have expected Xavier to win? Playing a 14 seed- normally speaking, when one of those wins a game, that's it. I was expecting those 2 wins, and then hoping Georgetown would win with the higher seed(and then especially with how we started out the game). Really wasn't counting on Butler because they were playing a darn good Notre Dame team... So I was in that 2-3 range.

Bottom line, what today was/is was a lost opportunity. Today was a chance to pretty much shut up our critics.

Let's just say this. If Georgetown had beaten Utah, but Georgia St had upset Xavier- it would have been worse for the Big East. We got lucky in some ways that the 1 team that did win was Xavier.

I expected Villanova/Xavier to win and Georgetown/Butler to lose.

I thought Nova and X would win, and then Georgetown pretty close to a toss-up. Thought Butler would lose only because Notre Dame has been playing so well recently. Butler played a great Butler like game(really thought they were going to win in regulation).

so updating for results after this tourney since the tourney expanded to 68.
1 20-0
2 17-3
3 16-4/1-0 vs pig
4 17-3/0-1 vs pig
5 11-9/2-1 vs pig
6 10-10/2-3 vs pig
7 14-6
8 15-5

I think it's interesting that PIG teams are 5-5 2nd round. Means either the committee is doing a horrible job seeding those last few teams, or there's a huge advantage in playing a game before hand.

I think the other notable thing is the committee is doing a terrible job seeding the 7/10 and 8/9 games. No way in heck the 7's should be 14-6 last 5 years or 8s 15-5.

regarding the PIG- interesting comment from Ed Cooley-
http://www.coxhub.com/articles/ed-cooley...ce=twitter

The one factor that bothers me....and I don't know how the committee could ever change it or fix it — but the layoff and preparation factor is a different animal if you're playing the winner of a play-in game. We had a great season and earned a 6 seed in the tournament. However, after finding out our fate on Selection Sunday, we don't get to prepare with our kids for the Friday night opponent until Thursday afternoon.

for the record- here is the 2006-10 period(the 5 years before the expansion to 68):
1 20-0/20-0 last 5 years
2 20-0/17-3
3 18-2/16-4
4 15-5/17-3
5 12-8/11-9
6 12-8/10-10
7 11-9/14-6
8 10-10/15-5

really amazing seeing the differences in the years. The previous 5 years would be like you would think it should be- a pretty linear relationship. Just hasn't been the case recently.