BTW early rumblings regarding the openings- Depaul- Bryce Drew Valpo, George Mason- Jay Larranaga or Chris Caputo, Charlotte, Will Wade Tenn Chatanooga...

(03-16-2015 08:18 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  That was David Braine (spelling?) for whom he worked for at VT and GT. Braine has been retired for a few years now. Bourne was listed as a candidate to replace him a few years ago.

David Braine proved to be not much of a "brain" while at GT. He gave Hewitt basically a lifetime rollover contract after Hewitt rode the magic Chris Bosh train to the final four in 2003. Braine also was more than 75% responsible for the Dean Keener fiasco at JMU. He told his little mentee (is that even a word) Jeff Bourne that he would have promoted Keener to head coach at GT if Hewitt had left after the 03 season. That was a total bull**** statement by an AD (Braine) trying to puff up Sherman Dillard's best friend. Lot's of history here in my post and some of you will get it but most will not. I do feel bad for Braine as I've heard recently that he is suffering from dementia.

Oliver Purnell might not be a bad catch. Played against him at ODU. Been around a lot of big time programs. Just wonder if the fire would still be in his belly.

(03-17-2015 06:53 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Oliver Purnell might not be a bad catch. Played against him at ODU. Been around a lot of big time programs. Just wonder if the fire would still be in his belly.

Ollie hasnt tasted success in awhile. Only marginally at Clemson prior to going to DePaul.

He's be a great major conf assistant, IMO.

(03-16-2015 04:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 03:51 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 12:32 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I read today that Hewitt's buyout at GA Tech was $7M. That was probably offset, although I don't know that, by his compensation at Mason. He's due one more year there now. As someone else pointed out, Hewitt's replacement at GA Tech hasn't fared too well either.

Every school in the country -- and there are 351 Division One basketball teams -- believes their school is entitled to national prominence and yearly NCAA berths. Obviously, the math does not support that.

With respect to Anthony Grant, I recall reading that his initial contract paid him about $1.8M annually...that was renewed at some point. I had read that had one player not transferred from Alabama, he'd perhaps still have his job now. That player went to N.C. State...can't recall his name. Grant had lined up a pretty good recruiting class for next season with two 4 star and one 3 star player.

Looks like Shaka Smart is smart to stay at VCU. The two guys that preceded him ended up fired. VCU is in a perfect situation for them....they can dominate a mid-major conference and have yearly invites to the tourney. They also happen (now) to get the best talent in the A-10 by far. The Rams' roster is sprinkled with quite a few top 100 players and more are on the way. A bit more even playing field for schools in P5 conferences. Would like to see how Smart does in that setting.

The guy that left Alabama for NC State was Trevor Lacey. Lacey is the leading scorer for the Pack and 2nd team All-ACC. Coming out of high school Lacey was a 5 star guy, who lead the Tide in scoring in his sophmore year.

Lacey is one of the best one-on-one combo guards in the country. So, yeah, him leaving definitely hurt Bama.

Why'd he leave? We see it all the time with every program and every Coach, but Grant always had a pretty solid rep as a "players coach".

Now it seems it cost him his job, so that's a pretty major loss.

We need to get rid of Brady, his best player transferred.

What, Grant is available? Lets hire him! Grant's best player transferred?! That's ok, he's not Brady.

and on and on we go..........

(03-16-2015 12:32 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Looks like Shaka Smart is smart to stay at VCU. The two guys that preceded him ended up fired. VCU is in a perfect situation for them....they can dominate a mid-major conference and have yearly invites to the tourney. They also happen (now) to get the best talent in the A-10 by far. The Rams' roster is sprinkled with quite a few top 100 players and more are on the way. A bit more even playing field for schools in P5 conferences. Would like to see how Smart does in that setting.

Shaka is holding out for the golden egg: he's the next coach at Duke. Book it.

The Washington Post had an article over the week entitled, "5 Myths about College Sports," or something to that effect. It's linked up at the W&M board. One of the things they found was that in the relative short term changing coaches in football and basketball typically resulted in worse records on the field/court.

(03-17-2015 10:19 AM)capn kitt Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 12:32 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Looks like Shaka Smart is smart to stay at VCU. The two guys that preceded him ended up fired. VCU is in a perfect situation for them....they can dominate a mid-major conference and have yearly invites to the tourney. They also happen (now) to get the best talent in the A-10 by far. The Rams' roster is sprinkled with quite a few top 100 players and more are on the way. A bit more even playing field for schools in P5 conferences. Would like to see how Smart does in that setting.

Shaka is holding out for the golden egg: he's the next coach at Duke. Book it.

I would be somewhat surprised if anyone other than Coach K makes the decision to name Coach K's replacement. With the success that Amaker has had, that the Hurleys are having...Wojo with an opportunity at Marquette...man, I'd be surprised if Smart landed at Duke. I think they go with family. if in the next couple years I think it would be Johnny Dawkins, but he is slowly getting older.

(03-17-2015 11:14 AM)PhillyDuke Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 10:19 AM)capn kitt Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 12:32 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Looks like Shaka Smart is smart to stay at VCU. The two guys that preceded him ended up fired. VCU is in a perfect situation for them....they can dominate a mid-major conference and have yearly invites to the tourney. They also happen (now) to get the best talent in the A-10 by far. The Rams' roster is sprinkled with quite a few top 100 players and more are on the way. A bit more even playing field for schools in P5 conferences. Would like to see how Smart does in that setting.

Shaka is holding out for the golden egg: he's the next coach at Duke. Book it.

I would be somewhat surprised if anyone other than Coach K makes the decision to name Coach K's replacement. With the success that Amaker has had, that the Hurleys are having...Wojo with an opportunity at Marquette...man, I'd be surprised if Smart landed at Duke. I think they go with family. if in the next couple years I think it would be Johnny Dawkins, but he is slowly getting older.

It will be someone who commands respect the moment he walks into a room. Shaka is a big kid, granted he knows what he is doing, but take a look at Duke's FB coach as well. Its all business.

(03-17-2015 11:14 AM)PhillyDuke Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 10:19 AM)capn kitt Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 12:32 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Looks like Shaka Smart is smart to stay at VCU. The two guys that preceded him ended up fired. VCU is in a perfect situation for them....they can dominate a mid-major conference and have yearly invites to the tourney. They also happen (now) to get the best talent in the A-10 by far. The Rams' roster is sprinkled with quite a few top 100 players and more are on the way. A bit more even playing field for schools in P5 conferences. Would like to see how Smart does in that setting.

Shaka is holding out for the golden egg: he's the next coach at Duke. Book it.

I would be somewhat surprised if anyone other than Coach K makes the decision to name Coach K's replacement. With the success that Amaker has had, that the Hurleys are having...Wojo with an opportunity at Marquette...man, I'd be surprised if Smart landed at Duke. I think they go with family. if in the next couple years I think it would be Johnny Dawkins, but he is slowly getting older.

Isn't Capel already his top assistant? Called "Associate Head Coach" or something like that? He's typically got the next chair, if that means anything.

Lest we forget, Coach K doesn't play games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7QqW-ZuCmU

(03-17-2015 09:38 AM)PGJMU Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 04:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 03:51 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 12:32 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I read today that Hewitt's buyout at GA Tech was $7M. That was probably offset, although I don't know that, by his compensation at Mason. He's due one more year there now. As someone else pointed out, Hewitt's replacement at GA Tech hasn't fared too well either.

Every school in the country -- and there are 351 Division One basketball teams -- believes their school is entitled to national prominence and yearly NCAA berths. Obviously, the math does not support that.

With respect to Anthony Grant, I recall reading that his initial contract paid him about $1.8M annually...that was renewed at some point. I had read that had one player not transferred from Alabama, he'd perhaps still have his job now. That player went to N.C. State...can't recall his name. Grant had lined up a pretty good recruiting class for next season with two 4 star and one 3 star player.

Looks like Shaka Smart is smart to stay at VCU. The two guys that preceded him ended up fired. VCU is in a perfect situation for them....they can dominate a mid-major conference and have yearly invites to the tourney. They also happen (now) to get the best talent in the A-10 by far. The Rams' roster is sprinkled with quite a few top 100 players and more are on the way. A bit more even playing field for schools in P5 conferences. Would like to see how Smart does in that setting.

The guy that left Alabama for NC State was Trevor Lacey. Lacey is the leading scorer for the Pack and 2nd team All-ACC. Coming out of high school Lacey was a 5 star guy, who lead the Tide in scoring in his sophmore year.

Lacey is one of the best one-on-one combo guards in the country. So, yeah, him leaving definitely hurt Bama.

Why'd he leave? We see it all the time with every program and every Coach, but Grant always had a pretty solid rep as a "players coach".

Now it seems it cost him his job, so that's a pretty major loss.

We need to get rid of Brady, his best player transferred.

What, Grant is available? Lets hire him! Grant's best player transferred?! That's ok, he's not Brady.

and on and on we go..........

Did he too lose his 3 star Juniors in the last year after losing key players in most of the prior 4 years? How many of Grant's players had mug shots before the season?

Oliver Purnell is a great coach in my mind! He had a good thing going in ClemPson. Still don't know why he left for DePaul.

Fordham just dumped Tom Pecora. Had marginal success at Hofstra for like 10 years. Seems to draw in a fairly high level recruit every year. Not sure we want him though

Its my understanding that the Lou Campanelli hire came from a strong endorsement by Raleigh Massimino who was one of the premier coaches during the early 70's. My question is, does JB or JA have the same type relationship with any of the top 10 coaches of today? Ron and Dean Ehlers were never intimidated by someone else's accomplishments. They always worked to have connections at the top. I'm not convinced that we have that going on today.

(03-18-2015 11:12 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Its my understanding that the Lou Campanelli hire came from a strong endorsement by Raleigh Massimino who was one of the premier coaches during the early 70's. My question is, does JB or JA have the same type relationship with any of the top 10 coaches of today? Ron and Dean Ehlers were never intimidated by someone else's accomplishments. They always worked to have connections at the top. I'm not convinced that we have that going on today.

Lou and Mike Fratello were part of that group of New England coaches that were a tight knit group. Rollie Massimino, Jim Lynam, Hubie Brown and a few others. They would work each others summer camps. I had a few brews with them after hours back in the day. Lou and Mike came together as a package in 1972. It was Lou's first head coaching job and Mike was the assistant and J.V. coach. The rest is history. Mike became an assistant to Hubie in the NBA and ultimately became a head coach at a few different teams in the NBA.

Don't know that they had anything much to do with Dean Ehlers hiring Lou or not.

(03-18-2015 12:17 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 11:12 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Its my understanding that the Lou Campanelli hire came from a strong endorsement by Raleigh Massimino who was one of the premier coaches during the early 70's. My question is, does JB or JA have the same type relationship with any of the top 10 coaches of today? Ron and Dean Ehlers were never intimidated by someone else's accomplishments. They always worked to have connections at the top. I'm not convinced that we have that going on today.

Lou and Mike Fratello were part of that group of New England coaches that were a tight knit group. Rollie Massimino, Jim Lynam, Hubie Brown and a few others. They would work each others summer camps. I had a few brews with them after hours back in the day. Lou and Mike came together as a package in 1972. It was Lou's first head coaching job and Mike was the assistant and J.V. coach. The rest is history. Mike became an assistant to Hubie in the NBA and ultimately became a head coach at a few different teams in the NBA.

Don't know that they had anything much to do with Dean Ehlers hiring Lou or not.

Thanks for the insight. It sounds as if you lean towards the belief that Ron himself, did the majority of the leg work. That's cool. Novel idea, the president of a university being so involved, rather than a simple stamp of approval. I know, I know its a new day, a different JMU, and a different way of doing business. In my book, this is the way you save your a$$. But, but, "I DIDN'T DO IT".

(03-18-2015 11:12 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Its my understanding that the Lou Campanelli hire came from a strong endorsement by Raleigh Massimino who was one of the premier coaches during the early 70's. My question is, does JB or JA have the same type relationship with any of the top 10 coaches of today? Ron and Dean Ehlers were never intimidated by someone else's accomplishments. They always worked to have connections at the top. I'm not convinced that we have that going on today.

Ron Carrier WAY > Alger
Dean Ehlers also WAY > Bourne

I know it was in a different time, but there is no way Carrier or Ehlers would have allowed this mess to go on for as long as it has. Did Carrier fire Lefty? Yes. And he admitted later it "was his biggest mistake" ... but he would not have put up with this crap year after year after year .....

I'd be curious to see if a guy like Bino Ranson would be interested.

(03-18-2015 01:17 PM)Oldduke Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 11:12 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Its my understanding that the Lou Campanelli hire came from a strong endorsement by Raleigh Massimino who was one of the premier coaches during the early 70's. My question is, does JB or JA have the same type relationship with any of the top 10 coaches of today? Ron and Dean Ehlers were never intimidated by someone else's accomplishments. They always worked to have connections at the top. I'm not convinced that we have that going on today.

Ron Carrier WAY > Alger
Dean Ehlers also WAY > Bourne

I know it was in a different time, but there is no way Carrier or Ehlers would have allowed this mess to go on for as long as it has. Did Carrier fire Lefty? Yes. And he admitted later it "was his biggest mistake" ... but he would not have put up with this crap year after year after year .....

Carrier also hired Dillard and Wood....just saying Ron's decisions weren't all roses and sugar candy.