(03-14-2015 02:28 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:24 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:14 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:07 PM)450bench Wrote:  No kidding but in this university's case it needs basketball money to ignite football. It's just the way it is right now here, hence the problem.

How so? How would pouring money into bball in lieu of football help ignite football? Honest question, I'm not trying to be a d!ck or anything. It seems to me that was RC's gameplan and it got us with the worst football program for 3 years in a row. I love Tiger bball and it will survive this season and this football boosting effort and come out better in the long run.

Of course football is the financial answer but this university has always been about basketball and those hoops dollars fund just about everything. To move into the 21st century and have football be the bell cow we need basketball money to help football grow and takeover the top spot. When that happens great but the process needs to slowly work and with basketball on the downward spiral that it is on it only delays that process.

Well I think in a perfect world you'd be right but we were so behind the curve and the landscape was changing so fast we had to shift the plan into overdrive from the jump. I don't think the admin thought bball would struggle like they did this year either to be honest.

I totally agree. That's why it's imperative that the Josh experiment has to end now. Too much hangs in the balance.

Eh, JMO but I'd say he's earned one more year (mix of his record and the fiscal consequences of firing him) but I think everybody with any juice has made it clear to the powers that be that next year Josh has to do some heavy lifting to get off the hot seat.

(03-14-2015 02:29 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:23 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 01:57 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 01:37 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:33 AM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  Broken record time: the Atheletic department is in financial straights. Football is the priority. Understand this is a dramatic change to how we have always done things, but this is AS it should be. I am sure Bowen would have preferred to send the cheerleaders, band and thousands of fans. Not this year...

When did football become the priority? We had one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school? Give me a break. As soon as Fuente leaves we will be right back where we started. Cutting basketball and doing what we are doing sends a sign to people that memphis is no longer willing to do what it takes to compete at the highest level in basketball. Sorry I could care less about Tiger football and winning some meaningless bowl game. This is a basketball school and a basketball city. Always has been always will be and to cut things regarding our program is tragic and shouldn't be dismissed as no big deal.

This guy is not from here and doesn't understand what tiger basketball means to people. He needs to recognize under his watch the basketball has taken a major step back. Atleast RC fought for basketball. U can rag on him all u want but under him memphis basketball was at it's highest level and a couple mad free throws from a national title. Regardless how good the football team gets we will never play for a national title. We are a have not in football. Nothing will change that. We need to stick to basketball. It makes me sick this we are a football school now. Yeah we have one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school?lol whatever. Stay in your lane.

Football is the key to getting in a better conference. End of story. Basketball will play a minuscule, if any, role in that effort. The game has changed so we have to adapt to survive. Not really a choice honestly, only way to go.

Not the end of the story because we're not there yet. People have also said that Bowen hired Wren Baker to watch over BB.

But it's hard to know exactly what is correct in the info dept these days, especially when some reputable folks are also saying that the cuts made to the BB program aren't even going to FB.

Who knows. Hey....we only know what we see/ saw. And we saw everyone's band and cheerleaders except ours. Can't we hide our budget cuts better than that?


OK..most of you will be glad to know I'm done.

Let's assume their is a hypothetical package delivery company, that floats a lot of our bills. Then let's assume that this is not a bottomless pit of cash. Would you rather these resources go to building up our basketball program while in the AAC or go to helping get us into a new conference with a brighter out look?

I would rather we be more creative and cut something that wasn't so visible.

Well if from what I'm seeing posted on here and if it's true that we are going to put everything towards FB, if we don't get in by say 2 yrs from now then the whole athletic department will be dead broke and will have to be shut down.. No school will be able to survive outside of the P5 in athletics if this happens.. Putting all our eggs in the FB basket will kill our program quicker than most schools because BB has kept Memphis Athletics alive..if we don't get in soon I guess we are doomed..If I had to take a gander (and knowing people close to the program) on the possibility of us getting an invite soon I would say it's less than a 25% chance we get chosen.. IMO if we let BB continue to be mediocre at best then we may be doomed in a few years down the road.. BB has to remain relevant for Memphis Athletics to survive IMO..


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(03-14-2015 02:29 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:23 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 01:57 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 01:37 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:33 AM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  Broken record time: the Atheletic department is in financial straights. Football is the priority. Understand this is a dramatic change to how we have always done things, but this is AS it should be. I am sure Bowen would have preferred to send the cheerleaders, band and thousands of fans. Not this year...

When did football become the priority? We had one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school? Give me a break. As soon as Fuente leaves we will be right back where we started. Cutting basketball and doing what we are doing sends a sign to people that memphis is no longer willing to do what it takes to compete at the highest level in basketball. Sorry I could care less about Tiger football and winning some meaningless bowl game. This is a basketball school and a basketball city. Always has been always will be and to cut things regarding our program is tragic and shouldn't be dismissed as no big deal.

This guy is not from here and doesn't understand what tiger basketball means to people. He needs to recognize under his watch the basketball has taken a major step back. Atleast RC fought for basketball. U can rag on him all u want but under him memphis basketball was at it's highest level and a couple mad free throws from a national title. Regardless how good the football team gets we will never play for a national title. We are a have not in football. Nothing will change that. We need to stick to basketball. It makes me sick this we are a football school now. Yeah we have one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school?lol whatever. Stay in your lane.

Football is the key to getting in a better conference. End of story. Basketball will play a minuscule, if any, role in that effort. The game has changed so we have to adapt to survive. Not really a choice honestly, only way to go.

Not the end of the story because we're not there yet. People have also said that Bowen hired Wren Baker to watch over BB.

But it's hard to know exactly what is correct in the info dept these days, especially when some reputable folks are also saying that the cuts made to the BB program aren't even going to FB.

Who knows. Hey....we only know what we see/ saw. And we saw everyone's band and cheerleaders except ours. Can't we hide our budget cuts better than that?


OK..most of you will be glad to know I'm done.

Let's assume their is a hypothetical package delivery company, that floats a lot of our bills. Then let's assume that this is not a bottomless pit of cash. Would you rather these resources go to building up our basketball program while in the AAC or go to helping get us into a new conference with a brighter out look?

(03-14-2015 02:37 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Well if from what I'm seeing posted on here and if it's true that we are going to put everything towards FB, if we don't get in by say 2 yrs from now then the whole athletic department will be dead broke and will have to be shut down.. No school will be able to survive outside of the P5 in athletics if this happens.. Putting all our eggs in the FB basket will kill our program quicker than most schools because BB has kept Memphis Athletics alive if we don't get in soon.. If I had to take a gander (and knowing people close to the program) on the possibility of us getting an invite soon I would say it's less than a 25% chance we get chosen.. IMO if we let BB continue to be mediocre at best then we may be doomed in a few years down the road.. BB has to remain relevant for Memphis Athletics to survive IMO..


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We're going to be doomed if we don't get in a power 5 conference so not trying to get in one at any reasonable cost is beyond negligent behavior by an AD in today's landscape.

(03-14-2015 01:37 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:33 AM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  Broken record time: the Atheletic department is in financial straights. Football is the priority. Understand this is a dramatic change to how we have always done things, but this is AS it should be. I am sure Bowen would have preferred to send the cheerleaders, band and thousands of fans. Not this year...

When did football become the priority? We had one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school? Give me a break. As soon as Fuente leaves we will be right back where we started. Cutting basketball and doing what we are doing sends a sign to people that memphis is no longer willing to do what it takes to compete at the highest level in basketball. Sorry I could care less about Tiger football and winning some meaningless bowl game. This is a basketball school and a basketball city. Always has been always will be and to cut things regarding our program is tragic and shouldn't be dismissed as no big deal.

This guy is not from here and doesn't understand what tiger basketball means to people. He needs to recognize under his watch the basketball has taken a major step back. Atleast RC fought for basketball. U can rag on him all u want but under him memphis basketball was at it's highest level and a couple mad free throws from a national title. Regardless how good the football team gets we will never play for a national title. We are a have not in football. Nothing will change that. We need to stick to basketball. It makes me sick this we are a football school now. Yeah we have one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school?lol whatever. Stay in your lane.

This mindset is exactly why we're in a ****** conference. If you want to play the real blue bloods of the NCAA, you had better get into a football conference.

Name me a real blue blood that's not in a football dominated conference. The Catholics and schools named after founding fathers aren't ones either...at least not anymore.

I struggle to see how blind to this fact that some Memphis fans are.

(03-14-2015 02:46 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 01:37 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:33 AM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  Broken record time: the Atheletic department is in financial straights. Football is the priority. Understand this is a dramatic change to how we have always done things, but this is AS it should be. I am sure Bowen would have preferred to send the cheerleaders, band and thousands of fans. Not this year...

When did football become the priority? We had one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school? Give me a break. As soon as Fuente leaves we will be right back where we started. Cutting basketball and doing what we are doing sends a sign to people that memphis is no longer willing to do what it takes to compete at the highest level in basketball. Sorry I could care less about Tiger football and winning some meaningless bowl game. This is a basketball school and a basketball city. Always has been always will be and to cut things regarding our program is tragic and shouldn't be dismissed as no big deal.

This guy is not from here and doesn't understand what tiger basketball means to people. He needs to recognize under his watch the basketball has taken a major step back. Atleast RC fought for basketball. U can rag on him all u want but under him memphis basketball was at it's highest level and a couple mad free throws from a national title. Regardless how good the football team gets we will never play for a national title. We are a have not in football. Nothing will change that. We need to stick to basketball. It makes me sick this we are a football school now. Yeah we have one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school?lol whatever. Stay in your lane.

This mindset is exactly why we're in a ****** conference. If you want to play the real blue bloods of the NCAA, you had better get into a football conference.

Name me a real blue blood that's not in a football dominated conference. The Catholics and schools named after founding fathers aren't ones either...at least not anymore.

I struggle to see how blind to this fact that some Memphis fans are.

Kansas, Duke, NC, UCLA, Kentucky.... yep all in P5 conferences......

(03-14-2015 02:42 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:37 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Well if from what I'm seeing posted on here and if it's true that we are going to put everything towards FB, if we don't get in by say 2 yrs from now then the whole athletic department will be dead broke and will have to be shut down.. No school will be able to survive outside of the P5 in athletics if this happens.. Putting all our eggs in the FB basket will kill our program quicker than most schools because BB has kept Memphis Athletics alive if we don't get in soon.. If I had to take a gander (and knowing people close to the program) on the possibility of us getting an invite soon I would say it's less than a 25% chance we get chosen.. IMO if we let BB continue to be mediocre at best then we may be doomed in a few years down the road.. BB has to remain relevant for Memphis Athletics to survive IMO..


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We're going to be doomed if we don't get in a power 5 conference so not trying to get in one at any reasonable cost is beyond negligent behavior by an AD in today's landscape.

It is really a sad state in todays collegiate world.. It is really hard to fathom that there is a real good possibility that Memphis and many other Schools (UAB) may not have any sports teams sooner rather than later.. I blame a lot of this mess on ESPN!!


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(03-14-2015 02:37 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Well if from what I'm seeing posted on here and if it's true that we are going to put everything towards FB, if we don't get in by say 2 yrs from now then the whole athletic department will be dead broke and will have to be shut down.. No school will be able to survive outside of the P5 in athletics if this happens.. Putting all our eggs in the FB basket will kill our program quicker than most schools because BB has kept Memphis Athletics alive..if we don't get in soon I guess we are doomed..If I had to take a gander (and knowing people close to the program) on the possibility of us getting an invite soon I would say it's less than a 25% chance we get chosen.. IMO if we let BB continue to be mediocre at best then we may be doomed in a few years down the road.. BB has to remain relevant for Memphis Athletics to survive IMO..


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You nailed it, Gary.

(03-14-2015 02:48 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:42 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:37 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Well if from what I'm seeing posted on here and if it's true that we are going to put everything towards FB, if we don't get in by say 2 yrs from now then the whole athletic department will be dead broke and will have to be shut down.. No school will be able to survive outside of the P5 in athletics if this happens.. Putting all our eggs in the FB basket will kill our program quicker than most schools because BB has kept Memphis Athletics alive if we don't get in soon.. If I had to take a gander (and knowing people close to the program) on the possibility of us getting an invite soon I would say it's less than a 25% chance we get chosen.. IMO if we let BB continue to be mediocre at best then we may be doomed in a few years down the road.. BB has to remain relevant for Memphis Athletics to survive IMO..


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We're going to be doomed if we don't get in a power 5 conference so not trying to get in one at any reasonable cost is beyond negligent behavior by an AD in today's landscape.

It is really a sad state in todays collegiate world.. It is really hard to fathom that there is a real good possibility that Memphis and many other Schools (UAB) may not have any sports teams sooner rather than later.. I blame a lot of this mess on ESPN!!


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Yep, its the college athletic world we live in now whether we like it or not. Have to bend at the knee for the almighty dollar.

(03-14-2015 02:46 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 01:37 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:33 AM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  Broken record time: the Atheletic department is in financial straights. Football is the priority. Understand this is a dramatic change to how we have always done things, but this is AS it should be. I am sure Bowen would have preferred to send the cheerleaders, band and thousands of fans. Not this year...

When did football become the priority? We had one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school? Give me a break. As soon as Fuente leaves we will be right back where we started. Cutting basketball and doing what we are doing sends a sign to people that memphis is no longer willing to do what it takes to compete at the highest level in basketball. Sorry I could care less about Tiger football and winning some meaningless bowl game. This is a basketball school and a basketball city. Always has been always will be and to cut things regarding our program is tragic and shouldn't be dismissed as no big deal.

This guy is not from here and doesn't understand what tiger basketball means to people. He needs to recognize under his watch the basketball has taken a major step back. Atleast RC fought for basketball. U can rag on him all u want but under him memphis basketball was at it's highest level and a couple mad free throws from a national title. Regardless how good the football team gets we will never play for a national title. We are a have not in football. Nothing will change that. We need to stick to basketball. It makes me sick this we are a football school now. Yeah we have one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school?lol whatever. Stay in your lane.

This mindset is exactly why we're in a ****** conference. If you want to play the real blue bloods of the NCAA, you had better get into a football conference.

Name me a real blue blood that's not in a football dominated conference. The Catholics and schools named after founding fathers aren't ones either...at least not anymore.

I struggle to see how blind to this fact that some Memphis fans are.

I'm not blind to it but one things for certain, we probably have a very slim chance at getting in so Memphis's future looks to be without Athletics!!


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(03-14-2015 02:53 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:46 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 01:37 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:33 AM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  Broken record time: the Atheletic department is in financial straights. Football is the priority. Understand this is a dramatic change to how we have always done things, but this is AS it should be. I am sure Bowen would have preferred to send the cheerleaders, band and thousands of fans. Not this year...

When did football become the priority? We had one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school? Give me a break. As soon as Fuente leaves we will be right back where we started. Cutting basketball and doing what we are doing sends a sign to people that memphis is no longer willing to do what it takes to compete at the highest level in basketball. Sorry I could care less about Tiger football and winning some meaningless bowl game. This is a basketball school and a basketball city. Always has been always will be and to cut things regarding our program is tragic and shouldn't be dismissed as no big deal.

This guy is not from here and doesn't understand what tiger basketball means to people. He needs to recognize under his watch the basketball has taken a major step back. Atleast RC fought for basketball. U can rag on him all u want but under him memphis basketball was at it's highest level and a couple mad free throws from a national title. Regardless how good the football team gets we will never play for a national title. We are a have not in football. Nothing will change that. We need to stick to basketball. It makes me sick this we are a football school now. Yeah we have one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school?lol whatever. Stay in your lane.

This mindset is exactly why we're in a ****** conference. If you want to play the real blue bloods of the NCAA, you had better get into a football conference.

Name me a real blue blood that's not in a football dominated conference. The Catholics and schools named after founding fathers aren't ones either...at least not anymore.

I struggle to see how blind to this fact that some Memphis fans are.

I'm not blind to it but one things for certain, we probably have a very slim chance at getting in so Memphis's future looks to be without Athletics!!


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Lets just put it this way, we're in the best position to move up since everything started. By no means a sure thing but we've done pretty much everything that's been asked of us to make something happen. Only time will tell of course.

(03-14-2015 02:48 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:42 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:37 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Well if from what I'm seeing posted on here and if it's true that we are going to put everything towards FB, if we don't get in by say 2 yrs from now then the whole athletic department will be dead broke and will have to be shut down.. No school will be able to survive outside of the P5 in athletics if this happens.. Putting all our eggs in the FB basket will kill our program quicker than most schools because BB has kept Memphis Athletics alive if we don't get in soon.. If I had to take a gander (and knowing people close to the program) on the possibility of us getting an invite soon I would say it's less than a 25% chance we get chosen.. IMO if we let BB continue to be mediocre at best then we may be doomed in a few years down the road.. BB has to remain relevant for Memphis Athletics to survive IMO..


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We're going to be doomed if we don't get in a power 5 conference so not trying to get in one at any reasonable cost is beyond negligent behavior by an AD in today's landscape.

It is really a sad state in todays collegiate world.. It is really hard to fathom that there is a real good possibility that Memphis and many other Schools (UAB) may not have any sports teams sooner rather than later.. I blame a lot of this mess on ESPN!!


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(03-14-2015 10:46 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:29 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  Small time

Reminds me of the CUSA tournaments in the Forum....I always felt badly for the universities that didn't have enough money to send their cheerleaders and bands. Some of them sent a smaller version. We didn't even do that.

Yeah, I remember the Cusa finals in 2012 when we played Marshall and reading after the game that the Marshall team had to take a bus back to Huntington.

I was thinking, wow, Memphis is sure lucky to have better support than that.

Are we now taking steps in that direction?

(03-14-2015 02:55 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:53 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 02:46 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 01:37 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:33 AM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  Broken record time: the Atheletic department is in financial straights. Football is the priority. Understand this is a dramatic change to how we have always done things, but this is AS it should be. I am sure Bowen would have preferred to send the cheerleaders, band and thousands of fans. Not this year...

When did football become the priority? We had one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school? Give me a break. As soon as Fuente leaves we will be right back where we started. Cutting basketball and doing what we are doing sends a sign to people that memphis is no longer willing to do what it takes to compete at the highest level in basketball. Sorry I could care less about Tiger football and winning some meaningless bowl game. This is a basketball school and a basketball city. Always has been always will be and to cut things regarding our program is tragic and shouldn't be dismissed as no big deal.

This guy is not from here and doesn't understand what tiger basketball means to people. He needs to recognize under his watch the basketball has taken a major step back. Atleast RC fought for basketball. U can rag on him all u want but under him memphis basketball was at it's highest level and a couple mad free throws from a national title. Regardless how good the football team gets we will never play for a national title. We are a have not in football. Nothing will change that. We need to stick to basketball. It makes me sick this we are a football school now. Yeah we have one good season in twenty years and now we are a football school?lol whatever. Stay in your lane.

This mindset is exactly why we're in a ****** conference. If you want to play the real blue bloods of the NCAA, you had better get into a football conference.

Name me a real blue blood that's not in a football dominated conference. The Catholics and schools named after founding fathers aren't ones either...at least not anymore.

I struggle to see how blind to this fact that some Memphis fans are.

I'm not blind to it but one things for certain, we probably have a very slim chance at getting in so Memphis's future looks to be without Athletics!!


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Lets just put it this way, we're in the best position to move up since everything started. By no means a sure thing but we've done pretty much everything that's been asked of us to make something happen. Only time will tell of course.

I happen to support both but I just hate to see our best (BB) suffer because of this P5 (ESPN) pushing mess!!


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(03-13-2015 11:23 PM)Its our time Wrote:  Sorry if I missed a specific thread dedicated to this. But really? Has our basketball program fallen this far? I mean this is reminiscent of Rice in the old CUSA days.
It's not like we were 3-15 in conf play. I could never see Louisville or Cincinnati doing this. This was a statement by the AD. The question is---what is he stating? And what is his ultimate motivation?

Bowen's decision to cancel the trip after they had originally planned to attend. Small school mentality strikes again. Still thinks he is in a Jr College situation where you count pennies without any idea how it makes the program look. Several boosters have already contacted the President about this.

(03-14-2015 12:12 PM)fsquid Wrote:  hyperbole, the whole thread is hyperbole.

As someone who was actually at the game, it seriously felt like it was a home Temple game. Me and my husband tried to cheer as loud as we could but with only about 30 or so Memphis fans there, that doesn't translate to much. Someone even stopped my husband at the concession to ask why we didn't bring the band or the Pom squad. It was hard not having the fight song to help cheer for them when they did something good going into a timeout. And no offense to temples cheerleaders and Pom girls but they were not that great (I myself was a cheerleader for 6 years). I don't care what anyone says. Having the band and cheerleaders there has to be a mental boost knowing that someone is vocally cheering for you. I know some of the players acknowledged me and my husband in the crowd which was nice to see that they heard us. The temple fans we were sitting next to also commented on how there were hardly any memphis fans there.. Well I did the best I could trying to cheer for them. It was just all around depressing. But at least I tried to help them. I understand that it may have been a financial decision, but it made us look kind of sad and was kind of embarrassing.

(03-14-2015 03:34 PM)Harry J Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 12:12 PM)fsquid Wrote:  hyperbole, the whole thread is hyperbole.

hahaha, good ole SimCity

(03-14-2015 03:53 PM)iheartwillcoleman Wrote:  As someone who was actually at the game, it seriously felt like it was a home Temple game. Me and my husband tried to cheer as loud as we could but with only about 30 or so Memphis fans there, that doesn't translate to much. Someone even stopped my husband at the concession to ask why we didn't bring the band or the Pom squad. It was hard not having the fight song to help cheer for them when they did something good going into a timeout. And no offense to temples cheerleaders and Pom girls but they were not that great (I myself was a cheerleader for 6 years). I don't care what anyone says. Having the band and cheerleaders there has to be a mental boost knowing that someone is vocally cheering for you. I know some of the players acknowledged me and my husband in the crowd which was nice to see that they heard us. The temple fans we were sitting next to also commented on how there were hardly any memphis fans there.. Well I did the best I could trying to cheer for them. It was just all around depressing. But at least I tried to help them. I understand that it may have been a financial decision, but it made us look kind of sad and was kind of embarrassing.

It's 1200 miles from Memphis to Hartford. If we had been the #1 or 2 seed there would probably have still been less than 1000 Tiger fans there. Pom and cheer would probably have been sent since two games were highly likely.

As it turned out I'm glad the money was saved.