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White is a great coach, but since our conference doesn't draw on neutral courts, we will have to live with the home team winning a championship....
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(03-14-2015 11:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  White is a great coach, but since our conference doesn't draw on neutral courts, we will have to live with the home team winning a championship....

CUSA doesn't set up us small schools for success. Good coaches will bail as soon as they get a good offer since they know there only chance to get to the dance is to win 3 in 3 days.
CUSA does exactly what NCAA wants the small conferences to do: send weaker teams to the dance so they can make their case about the more power conference teams advanced further in the dance.
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So, that is how you explain UTEP hosting last year? C'mon man.....
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(03-14-2015 12:05 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 11:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  White is a great coach, but since our conference doesn't draw on neutral courts, we will have to live with the home team winning a championship....

CUSA doesn't set up us small schools for success. Good coaches will bail as soon as they get a good offer since they know there only chance to get to the dance is to win 3 in 3 days.
CUSA does exactly what NCAA wants the small conferences to do: send weaker teams to the dance so they can make their case about the more power conference teams advanced further in the dance.
Please. You guys need to get off your high horse. You played three mediocre to decent schools ooc and lost them all. No reason to think you are any better suited to win a game than uab or mt in the tournament.
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(03-14-2015 12:33 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 12:05 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 11:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  White is a great coach, but since our conference doesn't draw on neutral courts, we will have to live with the home team winning a championship....

CUSA doesn't set up us small schools for success. Good coaches will bail as soon as they get a good offer since they know there only chance to get to the dance is to win 3 in 3 days.
CUSA does exactly what NCAA wants the small conferences to do: send weaker teams to the dance so they can make their case about the more power conference teams advanced further in the dance.
Please. You guys need to get off your high horse. You played three mediocre to decent schools ooc and lost them all. No reason to think you are any better suited to win a game than uab or mt in the tournament.

I agree. We did not look ourselves this week. Very well could have gotten bounced in Rd. 1 playing like that.
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(03-14-2015 12:33 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 12:05 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 11:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  White is a great coach, but since our conference doesn't draw on neutral courts, we will have to live with the home team winning a championship....

CUSA doesn't set up us small schools for success. Good coaches will bail as soon as they get a good offer since they know there only chance to get to the dance is to win 3 in 3 days.
CUSA does exactly what NCAA wants the small conferences to do: send weaker teams to the dance so they can make their case about the more power conference teams advanced further in the dance.
Please. You guys need to get off your high horse. You played three mediocre to decent schools ooc and lost them all. No reason to think you are any better suited to win a game than uab or mt in the tournament.

Really? We have been winning more games in CUSA the last 2 years than anyone else and you think we have the same chances like UAB and MT. Your mindset is what make this conference is a 1 bit conference.
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And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.
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(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.
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(03-14-2015 01:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.

Seeding in the NCAA's is actually a pretty big deal
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(03-14-2015 02:43 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.

Seeding in the NCAA's is actually a pretty big deal
Of course. It is huge. But based on performance alone against top teams, no one really proved themselves other than ODU.
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(03-14-2015 01:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.


Every tournament team we've played we competed until the buzzer, a bounce or 2 goes our way and we go 3-0 against those teams. UAB has played multiple big time school and has embarrassed the conference in all of the games except versus LSU. So sorry we arent thrilled with our conference representative.
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(03-14-2015 03:08 PM)Observer1 Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.


Every tournament team we've played we competed until the buzzer, a bounce or 2 goes our way and we go 3-0 against those teams. UAB has played multiple big time school and has embarrassed the conference in all of the games except versus LSU. So sorry we arent thrilled with our conference representative.
Lol. LT would've gotten smashed by Wisconsin or UNC just like UAB did. If you think this UAB team is the same one from earlier in the season, I don't know what to tell you.
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(03-14-2015 03:08 PM)Observer1 Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.


Every tournament team we've played we competed until the buzzer, a bounce or 2 goes our way and we go 3-0 against those teams. UAB has played multiple big time school and has embarrassed the conference in all of the games except versus LSU. So sorry we arent thrilled with our conference representative.

UAB beat us and it's over. We had our shot and 3-24 from 3 is not going to win many games. Best of luck to UAB if they make the NCAA's
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(03-14-2015 03:10 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 03:08 PM)Observer1 Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.


Every tournament team we've played we competed until the buzzer, a bounce or 2 goes our way and we go 3-0 against those teams. UAB has played multiple big time school and has embarrassed the conference in all of the games except versus LSU. So sorry we arent thrilled with our conference representative.
Lol. LT would've gotten smashed by Wisconsin or UNC just like UAB did. If you think this UAB team is the same one from earlier in the season, I don't know what to tell you.

I think UAB is a young team that shoots the three at home very well. That doesnt help much in the NCAA
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(03-14-2015 03:11 PM)Observer1 Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 03:10 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 03:08 PM)Observer1 Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.


Every tournament team we've played we competed until the buzzer, a bounce or 2 goes our way and we go 3-0 against those teams. UAB has played multiple big time school and has embarrassed the conference in all of the games except versus LSU. So sorry we arent thrilled with our conference representative.
Lol. LT would've gotten smashed by Wisconsin or UNC just like UAB did. If you think this UAB team is the same one from earlier in the season, I don't know what to tell you.

I think UAB is a young team that shoots the three at home very well. That doesnt help much in the NCAA
And you have no inside presence to compete against teams with legit forwards. Charlotte's inside game is decent but not stellar and we beat you up inside.

With the seed you would have gotten it was virtually assured that you'd play a team with a better inside presence than we had.

Let's face it. LA tech was a matchup nightmare for most cusa schools due to speed but that doesn't mean you're positioned better than UAB to compete, especially when they smashed you once and then controlled most of the gsme the second time.

it didn't matter who made it from cusa, I would have picked a first round exit in the clncaa tournament.
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La Tech was the #1 team their last year in the WAC, and lost to UTSA in their opening game of the WAC tournament on a neutral court in Las Vegas.
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(03-14-2015 05:11 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  La Tech was the #1 team their last year in the WAC, and lost to UTSA in their opening game of the WAC tournament on a neutral court in Las Vegas.

Yep. Three years in a row the #1 seed with no NCAA Tournament.
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(03-14-2015 05:24 PM)RougeDawg Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 05:11 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  La Tech was the #1 team their last year in the WAC, and lost to UTSA in their opening game of the WAC tournament on a neutral court in Las Vegas.

Yep. Three years in a row the #1 seed with no NCAA Tournament.

That really does suck. I hope White sticks around a little longer.
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(03-13-2015 08:38 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(03-13-2015 08:20 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
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(03-13-2015 08:13 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  16-4 in conference with poor shooters ... kind of amazing... or maybe just a lousy conference?

White can't win when it counts and that is what matters the most. We shoot anything reasonable from 3 in regulation and we probably move on.

100 wins and 3 conference championships in 4 years and 0 ncaa tournament bids. The system is broke, imo.

The system isn't broke, its rigged. In 2011 Marshall went 24-10 made it to the CUSA finals, got beat by a team loaded with NBA talent (Memphis) had an RPI of 34 and didn't make the NCAA. And to beat it all we had the highest RPI of anyone that didn't make the NCAA and was still sent on the road to MTSU in the NIT.

The system is indeed rigged. Add in that invariably when a couple of non-P5 teams fight their way into the tournament they are invariably put in the same bracket so that one of them will not have a chance to advance. Happens every year, it can't be a coincidence.
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(03-14-2015 03:11 PM)Observer1 Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 03:10 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 03:08 PM)Observer1 Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-14-2015 01:28 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  And you think the UAB teams that lost their last 2 roads game against our F/U twins would be in the same caliber as Tech or oDU oe UTEP in the dance. You need to get a clue.
Congrats UAB on the win again.

La. Tech has 2 top 100 wins. Two. Two. Sorry, there is really zero reason to believe La. Tech would represent any better in the tournament than UAB or any of the other higher teams in CUSA, outside of possibly getting a higher seed. ODU (maybe WKU) is the only one who can really make that argument as they've actually performed decently against higher competition.


Every tournament team we've played we competed until the buzzer, a bounce or 2 goes our way and we go 3-0 against those teams. UAB has played multiple big time school and has embarrassed the conference in all of the games except versus LSU. So sorry we arent thrilled with our conference representative.
Lol. LT would've gotten smashed by Wisconsin or UNC just like UAB did. If you think this UAB team is the same one from earlier in the season, I don't know what to tell you.

I think UAB is a young team that shoots the three at home very well. That doesnt help much in the NCAA

And I think that UAB is the third youngest team in the NCAA. If you seriously think that a team with that many freshmen (other than Kentucky type talent) was going to be good early in the season you have rocks in your head. Look at what UAB has done since Christmas.

As to the losses to the F_U schools, we played without Mehinti, and he is a huge defensive presence. If we'd had him the last MTSU game that went three OT's would have been won in regulation and I can't help but think we win at least one on the Florida trip.

Bottom line - Scoreboard, baby. We're dancing, like it or not. We've had to sit home and watch too many years, I'm not going to apologize for this year. You don't like, it, try beating us on the floor when it counts.
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