(03-12-2015 05:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Video was removed. Let me guess. Black crime.

You Got It !

(03-12-2015 05:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Video was removed. Let me guess. Black crime.

Black on black crime. Which explains why you don't care.

I gotta give the victim here some credit. She held her own until she got knocked onto the floor. None of those girls could really fight. The only thing these kids can do today is half-assed scraps until somebody is knocked on the ground and stomp them. It's meh to me. And it's really concerning that not a single adult did sh*t until .30 tics into her getting stomped. F*ckin' stupid.

It may be cold but why should I care?

(03-13-2015 07:47 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-12-2015 08:55 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(03-12-2015 05:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Video was removed. Let me guess. Black crime.

Black on black crime. Which explains why you don't care.

The obsession in this forum with black on black crime is disturbing.

It is disturbing ! Especially if you or a Family member were on the receiving end of it ! remember "Black Lives Matter " and Not just when it involves Policemen.

(03-12-2015 12:06 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(03-12-2015 10:49 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(03-12-2015 10:20 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Society today is definitely better than the "Leave It To Beaver" America of 50 years ago.

Ward......Weren't You a little Hard on the Beaver Last night ?

It's impossible to hear Mrs. Cleaver talk about "the Beaver" and not laugh.

A social indicator by itself. Never occurred to us back then

(03-13-2015 07:47 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-12-2015 08:55 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(03-12-2015 05:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Video was removed. Let me guess. Black crime.

Black on black crime. Which explains why you don't care.

The obsession in this forum with black on black crime is disturbing.

Well when black on black crime and Mexican on black crime is tremendously ignored, the question asking "do black lives really matter" has to come into play. Why isn't Sharpton go into places like LA and Houston where there's a Mexican vs Black race war going on?

(03-13-2015 07:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's sad when I have to explain to you and others that what makes events like the Brown and Martin case significant is that the killers were never procecuted

Just like there are many cases that were never prosecuted in the hood. My boy (that was a football coach and great person) was murdered in cold blood and the case was never taken to trial. Are you telling me his life doesn't matter?

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/clairton-f...ome/nGkh7/

(03-13-2015 07:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's sad when I have to explain to you and others that what makes events like the Brown and Martin case significant is that the killers were never procecuted

Zimmerman was most definitely prosecuted. There was not enough evidence to convict. The Brown case was not prosecuted because the evidence supported self defense.

Cases are supposed to be decided on the evidence, not what you or anyone else believes subjectively to be appropriate. Both these cases were decided correctly based upon the evidence.

(03-13-2015 10:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-13-2015 07:44 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-13-2015 07:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's sad when I have to explain to you and others that what makes events like the Brown and Martin case significant is that the killers were never procecuted

Just like there are many cases that were never prosecuted in the hood. My boy (that was a football coach and great person) was murdered in cold blood and the case was never taken to trial. Are you telling me his life doesn't matter?

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/clairton-f...ome/nGkh7/

When have I ever said that. Everyone's life matters. That is what is meant by the protest. They feel as if their lives don't matter.

Which brings me to my original point, where is Sharpton & company when it comes to all of these black on black or Mexican on black crimes that are unsolved. You're the one that deflected to the Martin and Brown cases, which are 2 of millions cases that didn't see a conviction.

(03-14-2015 01:33 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  That's the difference. Don't you see? They understand that people get killed. It's when the killers don't get convicted that is upsetting them.

So, you're saying all the black on black crimes have been solved? That's good to know. Don't be silly, it's about race, not what's been solved, etc.

(03-14-2015 01:33 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  That's the difference. Don't you see? They understand that people get killed. It's when the killers don't get convicted that is upsetting them.

When the killers have committed no crime, why should they be convicted?

When the rabble rousers push for a conviction before the sufficient evidence can be gathered to support such conviction, and as a result the trial occurs without sufficient evidence to convict, what should be the appropriate outcome?

If we are to be a nation of laws, the outcome of trials must be decided by evidence, not mobs.

(03-14-2015 01:33 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  That's the difference. Don't you see? They understand that people get killed. It's when the killers don't get convicted that is upsetting them.

Quote:Only 132 of Chicago’s 507 murders were solved last year.

Then this should really be upsetting

But I guessed I missed those protests.

(03-14-2015 08:24 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  But they had to push for justice. In both cases, the men weren't even attested (sic). It's hard to believe you are going to get justice when the men aren't even detained after the killing.

You are failing to grasp an essential element of our legal system.

Once you arrest, the clock starts running on the speedy trial requirement. If you don't have all the evidence you need to convict in hand before you arrest, you just placed a time limit on your efforts to obtain the additional evidence you need. So the normal procedure is to hold off on arrest until you have the defendant dead to rights.

What happened with George Zimmerman is that the prosecution had to go forward with trial before the evidence needed to convict turned up.

What happened with Darren Wilson is that when the evidence showed up, it didn't support any crime.

If you arrest without all the evidence you need to convict, then you are inviting a not guilty verdict. Is that the result you want?

Like Owl alluded to, the media frenzy was George's best friend.

(03-12-2015 05:43 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Doesn't work. We're they black girls beating up a white girl? Is that why you posted?

"We are they black girls"? Huh? What?

(03-14-2015 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 08:24 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  But they had to push for justice. In both cases, the men weren't even attested (sic). It's hard to believe you are going to get justice when the men aren't even detained after the killing.

You are failing to grasp an essential element of our legal system.

Once you arrest, the clock starts running on the speedy trial requirement. If you don't have all the evidence you need to convict in hand before you arrest, you just placed a time limit on your efforts to obtain the additional evidence you need. So the normal procedure is to hold off on arrest until you have the defendant dead to rights.

What happened with George Zimmerman is that the prosecution had to go forward with trial before the evidence needed to convict turned up.

What happened with Darren Wilson is that when the evidence showed up, it didn't support any crime.

If you arrest without all the evidence you need to convict, then you are inviting a not guilty verdict. Is that the result you want?

People want to see the perception of justice. I guarantee you that if they were arrested and put on trial and found innocent asap, you would not have had the outrage you have now.

C'mon Fit.....TROLL HARDER!!!

(03-14-2015 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 08:24 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  But they had to push for justice. In both cases, the men weren't even attested (sic). It's hard to believe you are going to get justice when the men aren't even detained after the killing.

You are failing to grasp an essential element of our legal system.
Once you arrest, the clock starts running on the speedy trial requirement. If you don't have all the evidence you need to convict in hand before you arrest, you just placed a time limit on your efforts to obtain the additional evidence you need. So the normal procedure is to hold off on arrest until you have the defendant dead to rights.
What happened with George Zimmerman is that the prosecution had to go forward with trial before the evidence needed to convict turned up.
What happened with Darren Wilson is that when the evidence showed up, it didn't support any crime.
If you arrest without all the evidence you need to convict, then you are inviting a not guilty verdict. Is that the result you want?

People want to see the perception of justice. I guarantee you that if they were arrested and put on trial and found innocent asap, you would not have had the outrage you have now.

One, nobody is ever found innocent in our system of justice, it's either guilty or not guilty. I hope you don't teach civics.
Two, are you serious? Do you really, seriously believe that a not guilty verdict would not be treated by the rabble rousers as an opportunity to incite more hatred? You know, like the way we haven't heard a peep out of them since George Zimmerman was found not guilty?

On second thought, maybe I should just respond the way DefConn did. Troll harder, fit.

Or Rodney King cops. Jeez.

(03-14-2015 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 10:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-14-2015 08:24 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  But they had to push for justice. In both cases, the men weren't even attested (sic). It's hard to believe you are going to get justice when the men aren't even detained after the killing.

You are failing to grasp an essential element of our legal system.

Once you arrest, the clock starts running on the speedy trial requirement. If you don't have all the evidence you need to convict in hand before you arrest, you just placed a time limit on your efforts to obtain the additional evidence you need. So the normal procedure is to hold off on arrest until you have the defendant dead to rights.

What happened with George Zimmerman is that the prosecution had to go forward with trial before the evidence needed to convict turned up.

What happened with Darren Wilson is that when the evidence showed up, it didn't support any crime.

If you arrest without all the evidence you need to convict, then you are inviting a not guilty verdict. Is that the result you want?

People want to see the perception of justice. I guarantee you that if they were arrested and put on trial and found innocent asap, you would not have had the outrage you have now.

YES, PLEASE!!! Mr. Historee teacher guy!, please more kangaroo courts to satisfy the ignorant and those wanting a "perception" of justice.

Let's be dammgoneshore we don't actually HAVE a system of Justice.

You are, in all due respect, not only a blithering moron, but indeed a large part of the problem. Respectfully, of course...