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conference tourney
so what's everyone's thoughts on the conference tourney...
I'd guess-
10 Creighton over 7 DePaul
8 Seton Hall over 9 Marquette
1 Nova over 8 Seton Hall
5 St John's over 4 Providence
2 Georgetown over 10 Creighton
6 Xavier over 3 Butler
1 Nova over 5 St John's(hope Wright really doesn't run up the score- don't know if we could handle it)
6 Xavier over 2 Georgetown
1 Nova over 6 Xavier
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RE: conference tourney
(03-09-2015 09:24 PM)stever20 Wrote: so what's everyone's thoughts on the conference tourney...
I'd guess-
10 Creighton over 7 DePaul
8 Seton Hall over 9 Marquette
1 Nova over 8 Seton Hall
5 St John's over 4 Providence
2 Georgetown over 10 Creighton
6 Xavier over 3 Butler
1 Nova over 5 St John's(hope Wright really doesn't run up the score- don't know if we could handle it)
6 Xavier over 2 Georgetown
1 Nova over 6 Xavier
I can't disagree given how the season has gone, but I am having a hard time seeing X in the finals.
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RE: conference tourney
(03-10-2015 03:11 PM)MUAvalanche Wrote: (03-09-2015 09:24 PM)stever20 Wrote: so what's everyone's thoughts on the conference tourney...
I'd guess-
10 Creighton over 7 DePaul
8 Seton Hall over 9 Marquette
1 Nova over 8 Seton Hall
5 St John's over 4 Providence
2 Georgetown over 10 Creighton
6 Xavier over 3 Butler
1 Nova over 5 St John's(hope Wright really doesn't run up the score- don't know if we could handle it)
6 Xavier over 2 Georgetown
1 Nova over 6 Xavier
I can't disagree given how the season has gone, but I am having a hard time seeing X in the finals.
If they had any other SF opponent I'd put them out there- but man, they have Georgetown's number this year.
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RE: conference tourney
(03-10-2015 04:45 PM)stever20 Wrote: If they had any other SF opponent I'd put them out there- but man, they have Georgetown's number this year.
Agreed. I think they get by Butler. I don't know what turns X into Georgetown's kryptonite, but there is something there. RPI Forecast's RPIWizard feature says that losing to Villanova in the finals could get X into the 20s for RPI. Would prefer to see X and SJ in the 7-10 game over the 8-9 if possible.
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RE: conference tourney
(03-11-2015 09:38 AM)MUAvalanche Wrote: (03-10-2015 04:45 PM)stever20 Wrote: If they had any other SF opponent I'd put them out there- but man, they have Georgetown's number this year.
Agreed. I think they get by Butler. I don't know what turns X into Georgetown's kryptonite, but there is something there. RPI Forecast's RPIWizard feature says that losing to Villanova in the finals could get X into the 20s for RPI. Would prefer to see X and SJ in the 7-10 game over the 8-9 if possible.
The problem for that is where SJ and X are right now. St John's loses vs PC- they are pretty much a lock for the 8/9 game. For X, if they get 1 win, they must win that 2nd game to get out of the 8/9 game I think. So for them it's better to either win 2 games, or lose 1st game.
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RE: conference tourney
Think Georgetown is going to win all 3 games and win the tourney.
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RE: conference tourney
(03-12-2015 03:00 PM)Hoyas Wrote: Think Georgetown is going to win all 3 games and win the tourney.
You may be right. I hope Butler beats Xavier so we don't see Xavier in the SF.
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RE: conference tourney
Glad to get the win tonight. Now hopefully to see Butler tomorrow night!
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RE: conference tourney
In this morning's bracket update at CBS, Jerry Palm knocked Butler down a line (to a #5) for losing to X, but did not move X up from #9. The ESPN site even had the wrong headline for the game: "Xavier outlasts Providence in OT." Palm also moved St. John's down a line to a #7 after losing to Providence, but left the Friars at a #5. I'm still not sure how he sees St. John's as a #7 with a #43 RPI and X as a #9 with a #30 RPI. I also find it hard to believe that there are 16-20 teams out there between Georgetown (a projected #4 with #18 RPI) and Xavier. Ken Pom is closer to the truth with Georgetown (21), Butler (22), Xavier (26), and Providence (29) all ranked in the 20s, and St. John's a step behind at #43.
So maybe the experts will think X deserves an 8 seed if-when they beat the Hoyas for the third time this season, and then perhaps a win in the Big East finals might even get them out of a dreaded 8-9 game. Actually, I love being a fan of the team that gets no respect. As Chris Mack said in the locker room after the game, it's not an upset if you know you're the better team.
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RE: conference tourney
Palm isn't one of the more accurate bracketologists out there.
Part of X's thing is all the bad losses. Georgetown doesn't have a loss outside the top 50. Xavier has 4 outside the top 100 and 6 outside the top 50.
Also of all the teams between Georgetown and Xavier yesterday in the bracket matrix- only Butler and St John's lost.
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RE: conference tourney
I will say I have no idea how he sees St John's as a 7. No way are they top 25-28.
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RE: conference tourney
(03-13-2015 08:59 AM)stever20 Wrote: I will say I have no idea how he sees St John's as a 7. No way are they top 25-28.
i think you will incur the wrath of SJU fans with that post!
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RE: conference tourney
(03-13-2015 08:36 PM)gosports1 Wrote: (03-13-2015 08:59 AM)stever20 Wrote: I will say I have no idea how he sees St John's as a 7. No way are they top 25-28.
i think you will incur the wrath of SJU fans with that post!
Ya think? I just don't think St John's has a real chance at a 7. Especially if Xavier wins tonight...
Huge game for Nova- not only their win but also the UVA loss. Lunardi now has Nova 3rd 1 seed and Virginia 4th 1 seed.
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RE: conference tourney
btw- I've been posting over there but either they aren't approving or he's out. what a joke that moderation.
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RE: conference tourney
they are still censoring your posts?
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RE: conference tourney
(03-13-2015 08:55 PM)gosports1 Wrote: they are still censoring your posts?
of course. just asinine. I posted about 15 minutes or so ago for instance the updated #1's for Nova and them getting up by 1- which of course is great news... must be out- at least I hope that is what it is...
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Hoya's up 14-7 early. looking good.
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RE: conference tourney
(03-13-2015 08:57 PM)stever20 Wrote: (03-13-2015 08:55 PM)gosports1 Wrote: they are still censoring your posts?
of course. just asinine. I posted about 15 minutes or so ago for instance the updated #1's for Nova and them getting up by 1- which of course is great news... must be out- at least I hope that is what it is...
Thats crazy. You may not be as "optimistic" as some but you certainly arent offensive or a trouble maker
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RE: conference tourney
(03-13-2015 10:34 PM)gosports1 Wrote: (03-13-2015 08:57 PM)stever20 Wrote: (03-13-2015 08:55 PM)gosports1 Wrote: they are still censoring your posts?
of course. just asinine. I posted about 15 minutes or so ago for instance the updated #1's for Nova and them getting up by 1- which of course is great news... must be out- at least I hope that is what it is...
Thats crazy. You may not be as "optimistic" as some but you certainly arent offensive or a trouble maker
Oh I know. but it's not going to change I think...
what a game. I posted a few minutes ago what do they say about a sleeping dog? You don't wake them up....
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