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If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
Of course I hope we get football back so don't jump all over this just yet. But I was wondering if anyone knows whether the AAC has football as a requirement for membership. We have some history with some of the schools there obviously and that would be a step up in basketball profile with programs like UCONN, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, Tulsa etc... even the emergence of SMU.

No idea if they would even be interested in us, but that solution would be infinitely better than an OVC, SoCon, ASun solution.

If we somehow fail to get football back I still want to see us pursue the A10, MVC, and AAC no matter how unlikely those options may be. If we get football back then staying in CUSA makes the most sense unless CUSA decides to boot us in the meantime.
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
I'm pretty sure FBS football is a requirement for AAC membership as their non-FBS members left and took the "Big East" name with them...
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
Our AAC hopes rest on the conference wanting to balance out Navy's football-only membership that starts next year.
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Stay positive people! We want Football back so we do not have to have these types of conversations. We fight!
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
If UAB has to leave CUSA, who cares what CUSA does. Why is AL.com writing this article instead of what UAB will do next?
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(03-09-2015 10:25 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  If UAB has to leave CUSA, who cares what CUSA does. Why is AL.com writing this article instead of what UAB will do next?

Because UAB is subject to the incompetent and uncaring Ray Watts.
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(03-09-2015 10:25 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  If UAB has to leave CUSA, who cares what CUSA does. Why is AL.com writing this article instead of what UAB will do next?

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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
I guess Conference USA will continue on without us. I don't see any stories about other conferences knocking down doors to invite us with our rich basketball history that people keep referring to.
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
UAB does have a great basketball history and would be a great addition to another conference - if necessary. My concern is that unless the legislature gives UAB some relief in its governance from the system BOT, other conferences may not be eager to bring in a school so obviously dominated from a campus 60 miles to the west. UAB, having to always wait to see what the "other school's" BOT will agree to let it do, is not in a position of strength.

If C-USA does drop UAB, it will be because they already have decided the replacement school they want. As with most "divorces", the one making it happen already has its desired landing spot picked out before they bail out. As Jeff Foxworthy said, "When she says "We should see other people", chances are she has already cut one out of the herd".
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
(03-09-2015 10:36 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:25 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  If UAB has to leave CUSA, who cares what CUSA does. Why is AL.com writing this article instead of what UAB will do next?

Because UAB is subject to the incompetent and uncaring Ray Watts.

Doesn't answer the question. Yeah, that's why we'll be out of CUSA but even if we have to leave CUSA and football never comes back, CUSA is no longer a Birmingham related story. AL.com should be writing about UAB's next steps, whether it's football coming back or what UAB does next after getting kicked out of CUSA.
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
(03-09-2015 11:44 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:36 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:25 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  If UAB has to leave CUSA, who cares what CUSA does. Why is AL.com writing this article instead of what UAB will do next?

Because UAB is subject to the incompetent and uncaring Ray Watts.

Doesn't answer the question. Yeah, that's why we'll be out of CUSA but even if we have to leave CUSA and football never comes back, CUSA is no longer a Birmingham related story. AL.com should be writing about UAB's next steps, whether it's football coming back or what UAB does next after getting kicked out of CUSA.

Because UAB has no plan beyond restoring football and hoping to stay in CUSa.

Ray Ray never had a plan for what comes after killing football or its effect on conference affiliation, unless the plan was to denigrate the entire athletics program.

He needs a swat upside his punkin head.
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
(03-09-2015 12:02 PM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 11:44 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:36 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:25 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  If UAB has to leave CUSA, who cares what CUSA does. Why is AL.com writing this article instead of what UAB will do next?

Because UAB is subject to the incompetent and uncaring Ray Watts.

Doesn't answer the question. Yeah, that's why we'll be out of CUSA but even if we have to leave CUSA and football never comes back, CUSA is no longer a Birmingham related story. AL.com should be writing about UAB's next steps, whether it's football coming back or what UAB does next after getting kicked out of CUSA.

Because UAB has no plan beyond restoring football and hoping to stay in CUSa.

Ray Ray never had a plan for what comes after killing football or its effect on conference affiliation, unless the plan was to denigrate the entire athletics program.

He needs a swat upside his punkin head.

I really believe Dr Watts had no knowledge of that C=USA bylaw on FBS football when he did what he was hired to do. Now whether his bosses on the BOT had a similar ignorance is also open to debate.

I think he just supposed that UAB would continue on as a basketball school in C-USA with no change in status. Once he took the step on FB though, he was committed regardless of consequences - for him there was no going back. The question for UAB athletics now is to what extent the removal of the "keystone program" will affect the whole structure of the department?
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
(03-09-2015 12:23 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 12:02 PM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 11:44 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:36 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:25 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  If UAB has to leave CUSA, who cares what CUSA does. Why is AL.com writing this article instead of what UAB will do next?

Because UAB is subject to the incompetent and uncaring Ray Watts.

Doesn't answer the question. Yeah, that's why we'll be out of CUSA but even if we have to leave CUSA and football never comes back, CUSA is no longer a Birmingham related story. AL.com should be writing about UAB's next steps, whether it's football coming back or what UAB does next after getting kicked out of CUSA.

Because UAB has no plan beyond restoring football and hoping to stay in CUSa.

Ray Ray never had a plan for what comes after killing football or its effect on conference affiliation, unless the plan was to denigrate the entire athletics program.

He needs a swat upside his punkin head.

I really believe Dr Watts had no knowledge of that C=USA bylaw on FBS football when he did what he was hired to do. Now whether his bosses on the BOT had a similar ignorance is also open to debate.

I think he just supposed that UAB would continue on as a basketball school in C-USA with no change in status. Once he took the step on FB though, he was committed regardless of consequences - for him there was no going back. The question for UAB athletics now is to what extent the removal of the "keystone program" will affect the whole structure of the department?

As one high-level UAB employee told me, to think that Watts had no idea the conference ramifications of killing football is "asinine." He knew exactly what it meant.
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
(03-09-2015 12:38 PM)Agent Orange Sauce Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 12:23 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 12:02 PM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 11:44 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:36 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  Because UAB is subject to the incompetent and uncaring Ray Watts.

Doesn't answer the question. Yeah, that's why we'll be out of CUSA but even if we have to leave CUSA and football never comes back, CUSA is no longer a Birmingham related story. AL.com should be writing about UAB's next steps, whether it's football coming back or what UAB does next after getting kicked out of CUSA.

Because UAB has no plan beyond restoring football and hoping to stay in CUSa.

Ray Ray never had a plan for what comes after killing football or its effect on conference affiliation, unless the plan was to denigrate the entire athletics program.

He needs a swat upside his punkin head.

I really believe Dr Watts had no knowledge of that C=USA bylaw on FBS football when he did what he was hired to do. Now whether his bosses on the BOT had a similar ignorance is also open to debate.

I think he just supposed that UAB would continue on as a basketball school in C-USA with no change in status. Once he took the step on FB though, he was committed regardless of consequences - for him there was no going back. The question for UAB athletics now is to what extent the removal of the "keystone program" will affect the whole structure of the department?

As one high-level UAB employee told me, to think that Watts had no idea the conference ramifications of killing football is "asinine." He knew exactly what it meant.

I have no "high level UAB employee" speaking to me so you - and that employee - may be correct. Regardless, the "ball is now in the C-USA court" and we wait to see what they decide for the future of our various programs.
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
Anyone, including Watts, would have known what the consequences were from the lowest of janitorial staff all the way up the chain of command as it doesn't take rocket science to know. Watt's knew (as well as the BOT)& if by the extremely rare chance he didn't, then it's just another reason why he shouldn't be President of a major university
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RE: If UAB is forced out what does Conference USA do next?
(03-09-2015 05:22 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  Anyone, including Watts, would have known what the consequences were from the lowest of janitorial staff all the way up the chain of command as it doesn't take rocket science to know. Watt's knew (as well as the BOT)& if by the extremely rare chance he didn't, then it's just another reason why he shouldn't be President of a major university

That's what I believe.

He knew exactly what he was doing. It's just that he got caught in the midst of his subterfuge. That said, it'd be scarier to me if he truly didn't know and acted in hasty ignorance.

As far as the article goes, C-USA will be alright regardless of what happens. The nosedive that Southern Miss abruptly took hurts in both major sports and some of the schools don't take basketball as seriously as they could, but the conference is only going to get stronger as a whole.
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