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RE: California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
(03-08-2015 04:37 PM)blazinrunner Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 12:45 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  I've heard that only one task force member was against the selection of OSKR originally, wonder who that could've been?? 01-lauramac2

But I think it's safe to assume that the admin will use Schwartz previous articles to say that the process was biased. You can tell they're already heading down that path based on Jim Bakken's statement last week.

That was my thinkining too... this will be their out and say that OSKR Was biased in favor and will not reinstate the programs.

That's why they made it a requirement to partner with a regional accounting firm. To mitigate that bias.
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I'm glad OSKR was chosen. This is good for us!
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California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
I don't think it gives them a leg to stand on at all. Just because he published critical comments of the report doesn't mean he has an agenda to save UAB at all cost. He just knows when something is garbage. And that would be the Carr report.
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RE: California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
What if that guy was paid by the PR firm to write those articles critical of the Carr Report to bait the committee into selecting their firm only to have them come back and confirm that ending UAB Football was the right choice.

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RE: California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
(03-08-2015 07:47 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  I don't think it gives them a leg to stand on at all. Just because he published critical comments of the report doesn't mean he has an agenda to save UAB at all cost. He just knows when something is garbage. And that would be the Carr report.

Yeah, exactly. He didn't come out and say that Paul Bryant Jr did it or claim that Finis St. John is bankrolling a kitchen remodel for Dr. Watts. He just pointed out the flaws in the report, which is exactly what he would've done anyway if he were hired without the tweets and articles before his hiring.
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RE: California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
What if the new report states that the Carr Report was in error or that its stats were misapplied and President Watts should not have used them to terminate UAB football? He might well appeal the findings to the UA System Supreme Court (aka BOT) and P. Bryant, Jr. and his cabal rules that regardless of errors we finally got what we have wanted for 20 years, and we are not going to restore the program, so there!!!.

Now they wouldn't make such a blatant statement, but there are ways to say no other than "NO, GD it !" Where could we turn for relief then?
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(03-08-2015 08:56 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  What if the new report states that the Carr Report was in error or that its stats were misapplied and President Watts should not have used them to terminate UAB football? He might well appeal the findings to the UA System Supreme Court (aka BOT) which rules that regardless of errors we finally got what we have wanted for 20 years, and we are not going to restore the program, so there!!!.

Now they wouldn't make such a blatant statement, but there are ways to say no other than "NO, GD it !" Where could we turn for relief then?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Do you mean that Dr. Watts would "appeal" to the Board of Trustees? If not, who do you mean by "he"?

It's stated Board policy that it's up to Dr. Watts to create or disband athletics programs. UAH's new president reversed the hockey decision. By their own public statements over the past 3-4 months, the Board has nothing to do with it.
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RE: California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
(03-08-2015 09:02 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 08:56 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  What if the new report states that the Carr Report was in error or that its stats were misapplied and President Watts should not have used them to terminate UAB football? He might well appeal the findings to the UA System Supreme Court (aka BOT) which rules that regardless of errors we finally got what we have wanted for 20 years, and we are not going to restore the program, so there!!!.

Now they wouldn't make such a blatant statement, but there are ways to say no other than "NO, GD it !" Where could we turn for relief then?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Do you mean that Dr. Watts would "appeal" to the Board of Trustees? If not, who do you mean by "he"?

It's stated Board policy that it's up to Dr. Watts to create or disband athletics programs. UAH's new president reversed the hockey decision. By their own public statements over the past 3-4 months, the Board has nothing to do with it.
I suspect that if Watts reverses his decision the same would be said. Otherwise, Watts, apparently their hitman, becomes the sacrificial lamb. His salary suggests he may adhere to the party line less he lose it.
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RE: California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
(03-08-2015 08:32 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  What if that guy was paid by the PR firm to write those articles critical of the Carr Report to bait the committee into selecting their firm only to have them come back and confirm that ending UAB Football was the right choice.

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Ummm he wrote those articles within days of 12-2. I can tell you RW was telling faculty that football was "dead and gone" later that month well before he formed the ATF and the current selection of Andy.
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RE: California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
(03-08-2015 09:02 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 08:56 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  What if the new report states that the Carr Report was in error or that its stats were misapplied and President Watts should not have used them to terminate UAB football? He might well appeal the findings to the UA System Supreme Court (aka BOT) which rules that regardless of errors we finally got what we have wanted for 20 years, and we are not going to restore the program, so there!!!.

Now they wouldn't make such a blatant statement, but there are ways to say no other than "NO, GD it !" Where could we turn for relief then?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Do you mean that Dr. Watts would "appeal" to the Board of Trustees? If not, who do you mean by "he"?

It's stated Board policy that it's up to Dr. Watts to create or disband athletics programs. UAH's new president reversed the hockey decision. By their own public statements over the past 3-4 months, the Board has nothing to do with it.

Sure, it's "his" call to make, and if he makes the wrong one, he'll be out faster than Garrison was.
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RE: California firm to review report that led to UAB football's elimination
(03-08-2015 08:32 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  What if that guy was paid by the PR firm to write those articles critical of the Carr Report to bait the committee into selecting their firm only to have them come back and confirm that ending UAB Football was the right choice.

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I have come to know Andy Schwartz personally and I can assure you he wrote those four articles on Vice Sports and Sports Geekonomics because he saw right away that the Carr report was a piece of economic trash and for no other reason.
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(03-08-2015 09:23 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 08:32 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  What if that guy was paid by the PR firm to write those articles critical of the Carr Report to bait the committee into selecting their firm only to have them come back and confirm that ending UAB Football was the right choice.

[Image: tinfoilmain615.jpg]

I have come to know Andy Schwartz personally and I can assure you he wrote those four articles on Vice Sports and Sports Geekonomics because he saw right away that the Carr report was a piece of economic trash and for no other reason.

All part of the scheme.
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I think that everyone is perfectly justified to be concerned the Watts might not bring football regardless of the conclusions of OSKR. Heck, his job may depend on following BOT orders precisely, regardless of the personal costs. Given the situation he is in, the BOT could blow him away without a second thought about the political cost. The only thing they would lose would be the cost of a NDA.

Watts might try to convince everyone that OSKR was prejudice citing the articles written by Andy Schwartz. However, unlike the Carr report, the report which OSKR produces will not be full holes, wrong assumptions, and stupid math errors. Regardless of who produces such a report Watts will not be able to discredit it because there will not any errors to point to. These folks know their business.

Watts can cry foul all he wants, but it was his hand picked committee that hired the firm. If Watts and minions can't find anything specifically wrong with the report the media is going to tear him a new one if he doesn't do what is indicated and he is going to face a revolt that will be nothing like he has seen thus far.
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(03-08-2015 09:42 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  I think that everyone is perfectly justified to be concerned the Watts might not bring football regardless of the conclusions of OSKR. Heck, his job may depend on following BOT orders precisely, regardless of the personal costs. Given the situation he is in, the BOT could blow him away without a second thought about the political cost. The only thing they would lose would be the cost of a NDA.

Watts might try to convince everyone that OSKR was prejudice citing the articles written by Andy Schwartz. However, unlike the Carr report, the report which OSKR produces will not be full holes, wrong assumptions, and stupid math errors. Regardless of who produces such a report Watts will not be able to discredit it because there will not any errors to point to. These folks know their business.

Watts can cry foul all he wants, but it was his hand picked committee that hired the firm. If Watts and minions can't find anything specifically wrong with the report the media is going to tear him a new one if he doesn't do what is indcaated and he is going to face a revolt that will be nothing like he has seen thus far.

OSKR is pretty good at litigation too.......just saying!
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(03-08-2015 09:40 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:23 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 08:32 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  What if that guy was paid by the PR firm to write those articles critical of the Carr Report to bait the committee into selecting their firm only to have them come back and confirm that ending UAB Football was the right choice.

[Image: tinfoilmain615.jpg]

I have come to know Andy Schwartz personally and I can assure you he wrote those four articles on Vice Sports and Sports Geekonomics because he saw right away that the Carr report was a piece of economic trash and for no other reason.

All part of the scheme.

BS - that's impossible - you haven't a clue what you are talking about. You need to fashion yourself a little aluminum foil hat like the guy has in the picture.
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(03-08-2015 09:46 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:40 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:23 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 08:32 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  What if that guy was paid by the PR firm to write those articles critical of the Carr Report to bait the committee into selecting their firm only to have them come back and confirm that ending UAB Football was the right choice.

[Image: tinfoilmain615.jpg]

I have come to know Andy Schwartz personally and I can assure you he wrote those four articles on Vice Sports and Sports Geekonomics because he saw right away that the Carr report was a piece of economic trash and for no other reason.

All part of the scheme.

BS - that's impossible - you haven't a clue what you are talking about. You need to fashion yourself a little aluminum foil hat like the guy has in the picture.

You guys really need to learn how to tell when he is joking. BlazerTalk members are so incredibly easy to troll.
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(03-08-2015 09:50 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:46 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:40 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:23 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 08:32 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  What if that guy was paid by the PR firm to write those articles critical of the Carr Report to bait the committee into selecting their firm only to have them come back and confirm that ending UAB Football was the right choice.

[Image: tinfoilmain615.jpg]

I have come to know Andy Schwartz personally and I can assure you he wrote those four articles on Vice Sports and Sports Geekonomics because he saw right away that the Carr report was a piece of economic trash and for no other reason.

All part of the scheme.

BS - that's impossible - you haven't a clue what you are talking about. You need to fashion yourself a little aluminum foil hat like the guy has in the picture.

You guys really need to learn how to tell when he is joking. BlazerTalk members are so incredibly easy to troll.

I guess there is a fine line between being paranoid and attempting to be funny. If some people can't tell the difference in your posts, it would probably be best to stay away from the subject.
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(03-08-2015 09:52 PM)58-56 Wrote:  pondexters

Will there come a day when the Sabanic Verses (in their entirety) shall be released?
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(03-08-2015 09:56 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:50 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:46 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:40 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(03-08-2015 09:23 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote:  I have come to know Andy Schwartz personally and I can assure you he wrote those four articles on Vice Sports and Sports Geekonomics because he saw right away that the Carr report was a piece of economic trash and for no other reason.

All part of the scheme.

BS - that's impossible - you haven't a clue what you are talking about. You need to fashion yourself a little aluminum foil hat like the guy has in the picture.

You guys really need to learn how to tell when he is joking. BlazerTalk members are so incredibly easy to troll.

I guess there is a fine line between being paranoid and attempting to be funny. If some people can't tell the difference in your posts, it would probably be best to stay away from the subject.

If YOU can't tell the difference, perhaps you aren't a good fit for message boards.
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