(03-07-2015 06:06 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  Here's an idea. Win your away game and the next away game is by charter. Lose your away game and the next away game is by commercial.

What about all the home losses mixed in between?

(03-07-2015 09:14 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 06:06 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  Here's an idea. Win your away game and the next away game is by charter. Lose your away game and the next away game is by commercial.

What about all the home losses mixed in between?

Your punishment is hearing miserables who don't live Memphis complain and whine...

(03-07-2015 09:07 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Everything in Beverly Hills is pricey...

Yikes, the cost is $42 per dozen or $3.75 each.

http://www.sprinkles.com/faq

(03-06-2015 04:00 PM)FranklinTNTiger Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 03:51 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 12:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 12:15 PM)Merrick Wrote:  This was mentioned on this board before, and I know Parrish has brought this up on his show.

Budget cuts at Memphis results in team catching normal flights vs. charter.

Don't forget, chartered flights was considered a Recruiting Tool and Cal stated this was important for team morale, school, and recruiting.

Quote:@ToneAnderson5: Hold on... Why don't they take chartered flights??? Since when do they go through the airport???

Tiger favorite Antonio Anderson's twitter feed says something.

I'm sure someone will say this is Pastner's fault, too...

Because Delta gave us a good deal from what I hear...

Is flying Delta now considered "low class" or something?

Delta isn't considered "low class" (although what they've done to Memphis is "low down." But comparing charter flights to commercial flights where you change planes isn't apples-to-apples, for sure.

I disagree, with the comment what Delta did to Memphis was not low down. They dehubed Memphis and cut 90% of all direct flights because they were losing big money here. Delta did what any other business would do cut your losses in select locations where business and or the population is decreasing and increase your direct flights to other cities that are growing like Nashville, Orlando, Charlotte etc.

Yes. They did all that AFTER they told Congress they would NOT do all that, so they could get approval for the merger with Northwest. Memphis was NW only hub south of the mason Dixon line. Delta's investment led this to being particularly obvious, this delta had to make promises they knew they would t keep. Definition of low down.

(03-06-2015 05:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 04:00 PM)FranklinTNTiger Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 03:51 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 12:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 12:15 PM)Merrick Wrote:  This was mentioned on this board before, and I know Parrish has brought this up on his show.

Budget cuts at Memphis results in team catching normal flights vs. charter.

Don't forget, chartered flights was considered a Recruiting Tool and Cal stated this was important for team morale, school, and recruiting.


Tiger favorite Antonio Anderson's twitter feed says something.

I'm sure someone will say this is Pastner's fault, too...

Because Delta gave us a good deal from what I hear...

Is flying Delta now considered "low class" or something?

Delta isn't considered "low class" (although what they've done to Memphis is "low down." But comparing charter flights to commercial flights where you change planes isn't apples-to-apples, for sure.

I disagree, with the comment what Delta did to Memphis was not low down. They dehubed Memphis and cut 90% of all direct flights because they were losing big money here. Delta did what any other business would do cut your losses in select locations where business and or the population is decreasing and increase your direct flights to other cities that are growing like Nashville, Orlando, Charlotte etc.

Their decision had nothing to do with the city of Memphis and everything to do with having a southern hub in Atlanta. Didn't Nashville recently lose their hub status with American?

longer than recently ago....SW has more than made up the difference there and AA has more of a presence in Nashville than Delta does in Memphis

The Memphis Airport Authority would be wise to study Nashville's airport as they remodel the new Concourse B.

(03-06-2015 12:15 PM)Merrick Wrote:  This was mentioned on this board before, and I know Parrish has brought this up on his show.

Budget cuts at Memphis results in team catching normal flights vs. charter.

Don't forget, chartered flights was considered a Recruiting Tool and Cal stated this was important for team morale, school, and recruiting.

Quote:@ToneAnderson5: Hold on... Why don't they take chartered flights??? Since when do they go through the airport???

Tiger favorite Antonio Anderson's twitter feed says something.

I'm sure someone will say this is Pastner's fault, too...

How do you know it isnt? I know for a fact Josh stopped chartering on recruiting trips even before Bowen got here. And that was HIS decision.

While I get the idea of all charters being a small selling point in recruiting, and while I get the idea that of course if the team flies commercial that must be some conspiratorial message...which it is not...

As an aside...

I used to get a kick out of seeing the teams in the airport. Flew with them once to Florida...purely by accident but it was pretty cool. There will be charters, this is a small thing turned into the Zapruder film.

Recruits want to know that the program is top notch. Which one sounds better:

Coach will be here at 2 when his charter lands

Or

Coach might be here at 2 but it depends on his connecting flight and how long it takes to get through security

Sounds bush league

(03-07-2015 11:17 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Recruits want to know that the program is top notch. Which one sounds better:

Coach will be here at 2 when his charter lands

Or

Coach might be here at 2 but it depends on his connecting flight and how long it takes to get through security

Sounds bush league

so take the direct flight, or charter...not tough.

(03-07-2015 11:29 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:17 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Recruits want to know that the program is top notch. Which one sounds better:

Coach will be here at 2 when his charter lands

Or

Coach might be here at 2 but it depends on his connecting flight and how long it takes to get through security

Sounds bush league

so take the direct flight, or charter...not tough.

That makes no sense

(03-07-2015 11:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:29 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:17 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Recruits want to know that the program is top notch. Which one sounds better:

Coach will be here at 2 when his charter lands

Or

Coach might be here at 2 but it depends on his connecting flight and how long it takes to get through security

Sounds bush league

so take the direct flight, or charter...not tough.

That makes no sense

when is the last time 1 of his arguments did?

(03-07-2015 11:37 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:29 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:17 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Recruits want to know that the program is top notch. Which one sounds better:

Coach will be here at 2 when his charter lands

Or

Coach might be here at 2 but it depends on his connecting flight and how long it takes to get through security

Sounds bush league

so take the direct flight, or charter...not tough.

That makes no sense

when is the last time 1 of his arguments did?

Well I've been told to be nice

(03-07-2015 11:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:29 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:17 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Recruits want to know that the program is top notch. Which one sounds better:

Coach will be here at 2 when his charter lands

Or

Coach might be here at 2 but it depends on his connecting flight and how long it takes to get through security

Sounds bush league

so take the direct flight, or charter...not tough.

That makes no sense

it's a contract.

if Delta offers a direct flight to that city, take the Delta flight.

of Delta doesn't, just charter it.

I guess the Tigers deciding to take the non-direct flight to Hartford somehow makes him a bad coach, lol

(03-07-2015 11:39 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:37 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:29 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-07-2015 11:17 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Recruits want to know that the program is top notch. Which one sounds better:

Coach will be here at 2 when his charter lands

Or

Coach might be here at 2 but it depends on his connecting flight and how long it takes to get through security

Sounds bush league

so take the direct flight, or charter...not tough.

That makes no sense

when is the last time 1 of his arguments did?

Well I've been told to be nice

it's sad you need to be told to treat others with simple respect...

I am not sure what to think about this without seeing the financial statements and the production of them. I understand the need to cut costs, the question is how much of the cost-cutting was a result of diverting money into the FB program and how much was it simply of function of across-the-board budget cuts?

I am on the fence about Bowen. His prior place, San Jose, is simply a mess. They lost a head football coach - Dave Baldwin - because he made more money as an assistant at a P5 school. Most ADs have no earthly clue just how important Tiger BB is. Not sure if Bowen truly 'gets it'.

Tiger basketball is NOT important right now. Football is important, realignment is important. Basketball investment, at this particular moment, is trying to win the battle while losing the war. We got as good at basketball as a program could get, and it did not matter at all to the larger landscape. Basketball can be fixed and can be fixed quickly in a place like Memphis, but the other issues take priority. This is why Pastner WILL get another year. so either he gets better or the next year at a minimum is going to be a replay of this one.

So we went from flying a pimped out all first class 737 (NBA charter company skyking aviation), to flying chartered regular Delta regional jets, to changing planes in ATL pulling a carry on?

That will hurt recruiting. I was pissed when the started chartering with DL instead of SkyKing because I thought it would hurt recruiting.

I have no Issue with our team flying coach, on regular jets, with a major airline (Delta), WHEN CONVENIENT, to save some money...

I believe we chartered to Spokane, Greenville, and South Dakota this season...

I don't get the big deal.

(03-07-2015 11:54 AM)ddramone Wrote:  I am not sure what to think about this without seeing the financial statements and the production of them. I understand the need to cut costs, the question is how much of the cost-cutting was a result of diverting money into the FB program and how much was it simply of function of across-the-board budget cuts?

I am on the fence about Bowen. His prior place, San Jose, is simply a mess. They lost a head football coach - Dave Baldwin - because he made more money as an assistant at a P5 school. Most ADs have no earthly clue just how important Tiger BB is. Not sure if Bowen truly 'gets it'.

Approx $2 million minimum has been diverted each YEAR from BB to FB for quite a while now. Where do you think all our basketball/Tiger Club donor money has been going to?

(03-07-2015 12:36 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I have no Issue with our team flying coach, on regular jets, with a major airline (Delta), WHEN CONVENIENT, to save some money...

I believe we chartered to Spokane, Greenville, and South Dakota this season...

I don't get the big deal.

1. Recruiting perception. Cal used it as a tool. Big time teams don't fly commercial.
2. Time - Flying commercial means more time away from campus for the kids. More missed classes. Get there earlier, takes longer, have to spend the night after the game more often.
3. Risk - I fly commercial 60 flights a year. **** happens. Stuff gets lost. Flights get canceled. I spend at least two nights a year in the wrong city.