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Is it just me...
...or was a side effect of firing Frank Matrisciano (Pastner’s brother-in-law/strength and conditioning coach) last January precipitate of the downward slide of this team? Seems to me these guys could use a dose of "Hell's Trainer".
03-05-2015 04:08 PM
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Frank gonna bring us a guard?
03-05-2015 04:16 PM
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Actually I thought they got better after he was fired
03-05-2015 04:24 PM
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(03-05-2015 04:08 PM)B757dog Wrote:  ...or was a side effect of firing Frank Matrisciano (Pastner’s brother-in-law/strength and conditioning coach) last January precipitate of the downward slide of this team? Seems to me these guys could use a dose of "Hell's Trainer".

Frank was probably Pastner's biggest mistake and it still may cost him his job. Our kids get killed by teams because most are bigger, faster and a lot more explosive. To paraphrase that incredibly annoying and catchy song: It's all about them weights, bout them weights, no sandbags!

Edit: Grammatical error corrected
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I agree that it is all about the guard play, or lack thereof. We all could see way back in the summer when they went to Canada. No guard play then and nothing has changed.
03-05-2015 04:33 PM
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Haha blame Frank? The guy is a legend in his own right. He'll be plenty busy for a long while due to his extensive list of high profile clients.
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(03-05-2015 04:16 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  Frank gonna bring us a guard?

BWAHAHAHA
03-05-2015 04:47 PM
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(03-05-2015 04:40 PM)RheaJ Wrote:  Haha blame Frank? The guy is a legend in his own right. He'll be plenty busy for a long while due to his extensive list of high profile clients.

By the time Frank left Chris Crawford moved like a 40 year old couch potato (OK, maybe I am exaggerating a little bit). Both he and Joe Jackson had even more internal rotation in their shoulders and their slouch had gotten even worse then when they were freshmen.
One of a strength and conditioning coach's job is to fix these problems not make them worse.
I only know of Frank's methods from what I have read on here and in a few magazines, but if it is true that he didn't use weight training and had kids with poor body movement, as Crawford and Jackson have, running up hills with sand bags then yes, that is going to cause major problems.
While ascending a rope or sand hill with a weighted vest is awesome, it mostly provides metabolic conditioning and will eventually break the body down causing injuries, most likely to the knees (poor hip movement will cause your knees to wear out or knee valgus). Proper weight training cannot be replaced. The Russians know this, the Chinese know this, all of America knows this, except, apparently Frank (and his supporters).
If you want to be able to run up and down the court really well for half a season, Frank sounds like he would be a capable trainer. If you want to increase your work capacity and ability over a broad time, you need weights.
I am not blaming Frank, Pastner hired Frank for what ever reason, if he was the mistake that I think he was, then that mistake was Pastner's not Frank's. Frank is really good at what he does but he probably needs to stick to "high profile clients" looking to lose some weight, it appears to me that is what he would really be good at.
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[quote='RheaJ' pid='11839081' dateline='1425591643']
Haha blame Frank? The guy is a legend in his own mind.
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(03-05-2015 05:56 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  [quote='RheaJ' pid='11839081' dateline='1425591643']
Haha blame Frank? The guy is a legend in his own mind.

I have yet to met one single person outside of Memphis fans who knows are cares who Frank is... a legend in his on mind is right!
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I don't think our issues are primarily on our trainer, even though our guys still need to add strength compared to physical teams.

Just one of many problems that individually is of little concern, but adds up to a large issue...
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Talk about coming 'full circle' ...
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Doesn't seem like a couple of our guys, like Will Barton and JJ, going to add that kind of weight no matter what.

double negative deleted. Will's been kicking ass in Denver.
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If our guys are bigger or stronger, I haven't noticed it. Many slammed Frank because some of our players were supposedly not in shape. Who do we blame for Kedren?
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(03-05-2015 07:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If our guys are bigger or stronger, I haven't noticed it. Many slammed Frank because some of our players were supposedly not in shape. Who do we blame for Kedren?

Vandy.
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(03-05-2015 07:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-05-2015 07:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If our guys are bigger or stronger, I haven't noticed it. Many slammed Frank because some of our players were supposedly not in shape. Who do we blame for Kedren?

Vandy.

I guess Kedren is on the same stay overweight while playing D1 basketball fitness program, that Niles and Woodson were on. I didn't think it was possible.
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(03-05-2015 07:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-05-2015 07:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-05-2015 07:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If our guys are bigger or stronger, I haven't noticed it. Many slammed Frank because some of our players were supposedly not in shape. Who do we blame for Kedren?

Vandy.

I guess Kedren is on the same stay overweight while playing D1 basketball fitness program, that Niles and Woodson were on. I didn't think it was possible.

There're a lot of tasty treats on the Mickey D 1$ menu...just sayin'. 03-lmfao
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(03-05-2015 07:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-05-2015 07:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-05-2015 07:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If our guys are bigger or stronger, I haven't noticed it. Many slammed Frank because some of our players were supposedly not in shape. Who do we blame for Kedren?

Vandy.

I guess Kedren is on the same stay overweight while playing D1 basketball fitness program, that Niles and Woodson were on. I didn't think it was possible.

At least Niles came through with a b***chslapping when needed. Woodson let himself get tackled into a wall by one of the little FB players.
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(03-05-2015 07:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-05-2015 07:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-05-2015 07:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If our guys are bigger or stronger, I haven't noticed it. Many slammed Frank because some of our players were supposedly not in shape. Who do we blame for Kedren?

Vandy.

I guess Kedren is on the same stay overweight while playing D1 basketball fitness program, that Niles and Woodson were on. I didn't think it was possible.

I don't care how young you are you can't out train a bad diet, and if Kedren was as bad off as Parrish made it sound then he was probably pretty sick, insulin resistant, metabolic syndrome. The Grizzlies have quite recently started paying attention to nutrition and it seems to be showing. I think nutrition is one of the most underestimated parts of training. Not only are you what you eat, but you are what you eat, eats!
I think I have seen some improvement, AN has definitely gotten stronger however he left campus to do so. Avery Woodson seems to have improved throughout the course of the season. The internal rotation in his shoulders seems to be correcting itself (or it's being corrected). Overall the team as a whole seems to move better than teams from the past but you have to really look.
I think this off season will tell a lot. A good strength and conditioning program will hide a lot of bad coaching (think athleticism) but a bad S & C program will expose every tiny little flaw a coach has. In short it will make or break you, there is a reason SEC schools spend millions on training facilities and an indoor training facility is being so sought after here.
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