I have never seen such a stark separation between the top and bottom halves of a conference like we have in the AAC - in both football and basketball - and it kills us in the rankings.

I don't want to see everyone with the same record, but the bottom teams have to improve if this conference is ever to be taken seriously - there's just too clear a difference.

Wow I never thought about it like that. So you're telling me that our coaching staffs and players that spend basically all their time working to improve should just do better? Man I'm gonna head right over and let them know.

I am glad this is the first mention of that. Now we can correct this ASAP.

Football:
Maintain-
UC, UCF, Memphis,

Need to step it up a notch-
ECU, UH, Temple

Needs major improvement-
USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, UCONN



Basketball
Maintain-
UC, Tulsa, Temple, SMU, UCONN,

Needs step it up a notch-
Memphis

Needs major improvement-
ECU, Tulane, UCF, UH, USF

(03-05-2015 09:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Football:
Maintain-
UC, UCF, Memphis,

Need to step it up a notch-
ECU, UH, Temple

Needs major improvement-
USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, UCONN



Basketball
Maintain-
UC, Tulsa, Temple, SMU, UCONN,

Needs step it up a notch-
Memphis

Needs major improvement-
ECU, Tulane, UCF, UH, USF

Lol at ECU football needing to step it up a notch. We're the only team in this f'ing conference to beat a P5 (2). Get a grip.

BearCats#1 I think that is spot on for ECU, although many on here wont want to admit it

(03-05-2015 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Lol at ECU football needing to step it up a notch. We're the only team in this f'ing conference to beat a P5 (2). Get a grip.

Not true, Temple beat a P5 team (Vandy) as well, albeit not a good P5 team.

(03-05-2015 09:52 AM)gopirates11 Wrote:  BearCats#1 I think that is spot on for ECU, although many on here wont want to admit it

In basketball ECU needs 1 big player that can consistently rebound.

In football ECU needs an offensive coordinator that can tell time and do some basic math. See the Cincinnati and UCF games for proof.

(03-05-2015 09:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Football:
Maintain-
UC, UCF, Memphis,

Need to step it up a notch-
ECU, UH, Temple

Needs major improvement-
USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, UCONN



Basketball
Maintain-
UC, Tulsa, Temple, SMU, UCONN,

Needs step it up a notch-
Memphis

Needs major improvement-
ECU, Tulane, UCF, UH, USF

UC is no better than ECU in football. Keeping dreaming though, it is fun to make sh^t up.

(03-05-2015 09:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Football:
Maintain-
UC, UCF, Memphis,

Need to step it up a notch-
ECU, UH, Temple

Needs major improvement-
USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, UCONN



Basketball
Maintain-
UC, Tulsa, Temple, SMU, UCONN,

Needs step it up a notch-
Memphis

Needs major improvement-
ECU, Tulane, UCF, UH, USF

You're out of your mind (in a good way). We need to step it up a lot more than a notch.

There was a time when Memphis and UC played games that mattered on a national level, and while you guys aren't far from that level right now, we are. We need to step it up a lot more than a notch, we need major improvement.

This is sooooo stupid. Mathematically, if one group who is low steps up then the group who is high steps down. You can't have ALL winners. Further, the conference is better to have a few teams dominate. The old BE always had this problem.

There are plenty of programs stepping up.

The hiring of Herman , Montgomery, and Morris, is about as bold of a statement as there is. Houston was a bowl winner this year (over an ACC program) and they STILL wanted to take it up a notch.

Likewise, the hiring of Brown, Sampson, and Haith, on the basketball side. SMU and Tulsa will be fighting for the regular season title this weekend.

Unfortunately, we are in YEAR ONE, with three new teams. And, it'll take some time for the league as a whole to get up to speed with the HIRES that are being made.

You just have to be patient. It's unrealistic to expect a conference in YEAR 2 to be firing on all cylinders. Hell, look how tough it was for the defending NCAA Champion Huskies to get back to speed this year; and they're a blueblood program. We have teams competing on a level that they haven't been accustomed to. It's not as simple as just putting on a new conference patch.

I'm tired of hearing all this bull**** from people that aren't really keeping tabs on the hiring/recruiting that is taking place across the board. Seriously, do you own homework Marv.

(03-05-2015 10:03 AM)NewEnglandBull Wrote:  This is sooooo stupid. Mathematically, if one group who is low steps up then the group who is high steps down. You can't have ALL winners. Further, the conference is better to have a few teams dominate. The old BE always had this problem.

THIS ^^^^^ and......

I'll add that every team in this conference "steps it up" by consistently winning OOC schedules.

(03-05-2015 09:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Football:
Maintain-
UC, UCF, Memphis,

Need to step it up a notch-
ECU, UH, Temple

Needs major improvement-
USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, UCONN

Basketball
Maintain-
UC, Tulsa, Temple, SMU, UCONN,

Needs step it up a notch-
Memphis

Needs major improvement-
ECU, Tulane, UCF, UH, USF

So basically, Tulane was a mistake.

(03-05-2015 09:55 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Lol at ECU football needing to step it up a notch. We're the only team in this f'ing conference to beat a P5 (2). Get a grip.

Not true, Temple beat a P5 team (Vandy) as well, albeit not a good P5 team.

UH beat an ACC team in our bowl game.

(03-05-2015 10:16 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Football:
Maintain-
UC, UCF, Memphis,

Need to step it up a notch-
ECU, UH, Temple

Needs major improvement-
USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, UCONN

Basketball
Maintain-
UC, Tulsa, Temple, SMU, UCONN,

Needs step it up a notch-
Memphis

Needs major improvement-
ECU, Tulane, UCF, UH, USF

So basically, Tulane was a mistake.

Tulane just built a new stadium and hired David Pierce. Their new football coach has shown glimmers but they really need to look at basketball.

All things considered, there is an obvious effort being made to be nationally competitive. However, they are just one year into the AAC and Rome wasn't built in a day (although David Pierce may challenge that notion).

That said, it sounds like their basketball recruiting has bumped up a couple notches.

(03-05-2015 10:03 AM)NewEnglandBull Wrote:  This is sooooo stupid. Mathematically, if one group who is low steps up then the group who is high steps down. You can't have ALL winners. Further, the conference is better to have a few teams dominate. The old BE always had this problem.

False. OOC play is what drives outside perception of a league. We had three teams lose to FCS teams last year, that killed Louisville and UCF's attempts to climb the rankings, no one gave our conference wins respect, and for good reason.

You can have better OOC play and still have a divide within league play.

(03-05-2015 10:09 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  There are plenty of programs stepping up.

The hiring of Herman, Montgomery, and Morris, is about as bold of a statement as there is.

Likewise, the hiring of Brown, Sampson, and Haith on the basketball side.

Unfortunately, we are in YEAR ONE, with three new teams. And, it'll take some time for the league as a whole to get up to speed with the HIRES that are being made.

You just have to be patient. It's unrealistic to expect a conference in YEAR 2 to be firing on all cylinders. Hell, look how tough it was for the defending NCAA Champion Huskies to get back to speed this year; and they're a blueblood program.

I'm tired of hearing all this bull**** from people that aren't really keeping tabs on the hiring/recruiting that is taking place across the board. Seriously, do you own homework Marv.

Maybe you should try doing some homework. Making a stupid statement about an all time Houston Cougars basketball ball team being able to beat an all time State of North Carolina basketball team; but either not knowing or failing to realize that a couple of Houston all time great players lost to a North Carolina State team in the national championship game that didn't have one player that would have even been on the all time North Carolina list. Btw, try looking up some of the players that came out of North Carolina. That list didn't even have North Carolina. Guys like Walter Davis, Sleepy Floyd, Danny Manning, Rodney Rogers or Blue Edwards on it.

Back to the subject at hand; all that ECU needs is a decent post defender and rebounder to step up to the next level.

(03-05-2015 10:18 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:55 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:52 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Lol at ECU football needing to step it up a notch. We're the only team in this f'ing conference to beat a P5 (2). Get a grip.

Not true, Temple beat a P5 team (Vandy) as well, albeit not a good P5 team.

UH beat an ACC team in our bowl game.

If BYU counts as a "P5" (which is a dubious term) then UCF and Memphis have 'a grip' as well.

Watch for Memphis next year