http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...s/?hpid=z4

U.S. millennials post ‘abysmal’ scores in tech skills test, lag behind foreign peers.

So much for the millennials claiming they are so highly educated. As I've pointed out before, they make the mistake of labeling certification as education.

But more to the point, the "progressives" who control education, from public schools through universities demonstrate the worthlessness of their content which is a consequence of their philosophy.

Too bad we don't hold teachers accountable. Those who incessantly babble on about global warming, evolution, social justice, etc, all at the public's expense, should be required to pay for their malevolent foolishness.

The leftists are too busy using the school system for social engineering to be worried about educating the children. It's more important that Little Johnny & Susie learn about Neal & Bob than how to add and subtract.


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Libs and their teacher unions have destroyed public education. Sad part is, they are proud of it.

(03-04-2015 04:32 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Libs and their teacher unions have destroyed public education. Sad part is, they are proud of it.

Started with the colleges. But they're proud of it too.

My son is in the running for the gifted program (we find out any day). His biggest hurdle is being white because they want more blacks in the program. So in other words, instead of expanding the program to include everyone who needs it, my child is at risk of being left behind because he is white and his parents have a good income.

If a goal of modern education is fairness and equality of outcome:
every US resident being equally poorly educated is an achievement on the road to equality.

(03-04-2015 04:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  My son is in the running for the gifted program (we find out any day). His biggest hurdle is being white because they want more blacks in the program. So in other words, instead of expanding the program to include everyone who needs it, my child is at risk of being left behind because he is white and his parents have a good income.

if he is excluded but otherwise qualified academically it is a pretty good argument for switching the young man into private school.

Where's Johnny0 to show us how smart he is?

(03-04-2015 04:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 04:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  My son is in the running for the gifted program (we find out any day). His biggest hurdle is being white because they want more blacks in the program. So in other words, instead of expanding the program to include everyone who needs it, my child is at risk of being left behind because he is white and his parents have a good income.

if he is excluded but otherwise qualified academically it is a pretty good argument for switching the young man into private school.

It is, but I am not sure $12k per year for first grade is necessary. Certainly a strong consideration for middle and high school.

pathetic. just play around with these metrics...
http://www.compareyourcountry.org/01/pia...hp?src=ber

The schools my kid went to made sure he knew that George Washington and Christopher Columbus owned slaves but they never told him who flew the planes on 911, but I did. An educated populace will never vote for democrats and they know it.

(03-04-2015 04:44 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 04:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 04:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  My son is in the running for the gifted program (we find out any day). His biggest hurdle is being white because they want more blacks in the program. So in other words, instead of expanding the program to include everyone who needs it, my child is at risk of being left behind because he is white and his parents have a good income.

if he is excluded but otherwise qualified academically it is a pretty good argument for switching the young man into private school.

It is, but I am not sure $12k per year for first grade is necessary. Certainly a strong consideration for middle and high school.

$12k? There are several in and around Charlotte for $4k-6k. If I were in a school district there's no doubt I'd send him to private school.

Thanks public schools.

(03-04-2015 04:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  The schools my kid went to made sure he knew that George Washington and Christopher Columbus owned slaves but they never told him who flew the planes on 911, but I did. An educated populace will never vote for democrats and they know it.

It's sad how leftists have hijacked the educational system. If their ideals are as great as they think they are then why do they have to resort to brainwashing young kids to keep it alive?

If you guys only knew where to direct your anger. It's been a death by a thousand cuts. The biggest cut being an increase in graduation requirements. When I first started teaching you needed one math and one science credit to graduate. Freshman level was the standard you neededto achieve to graduate and that truly was the standard that most kids could and should be able to meet. Then they increased it to two, then 3. Now it's 4 math credits and 3 science credits. Every Tom, Dick and Sherry needs to pass an end of course exam in that year of study. Where would you spend the majority of your time and effort. Would you focus on the top 20%? Would you make the class so demanding that your upper 20% actually have to work their tail off to get a B? When you make it so hard the bottom 50% don't have a chance.

Ignorant fools say: Let's make teachers more accountable!!!!! Screw them and their unions! Well guess what brainiacs we're smarter than that. You're not going to write off half of your class. You are going to lower expectations in a big way. You are going to make a D level student feel like a B student. You have totally changed the dynamic, and you are not smart enough to realize it.

You can't be the hammer anymore. You have to be a velvet glove. You have to make Sherry and Johnny like you. If not they will tank on you out of spite. I CAN GAURAN FCKIN TEEEEE kids would quit on a guy like TORCH in a second. He couldn't motivate a general population kid to tear a wet paper bag. It's a different society and if you want to survive in a public education environment you better learn this lesson quick. (btw my school was ranked in the US NEWS and World Report as an excellent HS)

I had a kid fail his English OGT his sophomore year because he hated the English teacher and he was going to show her. Guess what? That sentiment is out there. I'm telling you..... we focus on the bottom 30% because that's where you will get the biggest bang for your buck. It's pathetic. I hate it, but this is the system OUR POLITICIANS have created. You are completely and utterly CLUELESS IF YOU THINK this disaster has been created by teachers. We are along for the ride and we have been saying it to everyone that will listen. The biggest obstacle has been the added requirements to graduate. Then add on the proficiency aspect of it. I would bet you my left testicle that the US does the best in getting up the general population to a certain level. Hell in other countries they probably write off 50% right off the bat. You are comparing probably their top 10% with our general population. It's not comparative and it's certainly not surprising to anybody.

(03-04-2015 04:44 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 04:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 04:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  My son is in the running for the gifted program (we find out any day). His biggest hurdle is being white because they want more blacks in the program. So in other words, instead of expanding the program to include everyone who needs it, my child is at risk of being left behind because he is white and his parents have a good income.

if he is excluded but otherwise qualified academically it is a pretty good argument for switching the young man into private school.

It is, but I am not sure $12k per year for first grade is necessary. Certainly a strong consideration for middle and high school.

$12K is steep. Maybe shop around as you might find a private school that is less costly but still really good. It could be worth it to pay the $12K though, if that is your only option and you can swing it, as you have to do everything possible to give your kid the best education. By middle school or high school he might develop bad, lazy habits from not being challenged.

If you can't find a private school that you can afford and he is left out of the gifted program, take it upon yourself to supplement his education with private language classes, trips to museums, lots of reading, etc.

It's worth every penny spent to give your kid a great education. It's the best start in life you can give him.

By middle school or high school he might develop bad, lazy habits from not being challenged.


This is a huge problem. You have the kid that is so gifted he doesn't learn how to study. He was never challenged. Then when the world does become challenging he can't adapt because he doesn't have the skills to pay the bills. I am very sympathetic to that kid and it is a damn shame. I'm actually disgusted by that and it's a HUGE ASS problem that is unfortunately getting worse.

(03-04-2015 04:55 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If you guys only knew where to direct your anger. It's been a death by a thousand cuts.

As someone who is actually educated, and who has encountered the overt ignorance coming from and propagated by outspoken public school teachers, I am well aware of where to direct my concerns.

(03-04-2015 04:49 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 04:44 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 04:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 04:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  My son is in the running for the gifted program (we find out any day). His biggest hurdle is being white because they want more blacks in the program. So in other words, instead of expanding the program to include everyone who needs it, my child is at risk of being left behind because he is white and his parents have a good income.

if he is excluded but otherwise qualified academically it is a pretty good argument for switching the young man into private school.

It is, but I am not sure $12k per year for first grade is necessary. Certainly a strong consideration for middle and high school.

$12k? There are several in and around Charlotte for $4k-6k. If I were in a school district there's no doubt I'd send him to private school.

I would balk at $12k a year, but $4-6 would be doable now that I only have one in school.

That said, glad I live in a fairly conservative school district and don't have the problems with leftist idealists that you hear so many horror stories about. Just three more years and I'll be done with it altogether.

(03-04-2015 05:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  By middle school or high school he might develop bad, lazy habits from not being challenged.


This is a huge problem. You have the kid that is so gifted he doesn't learn how to study. He was never challenged. Then when the world does become challenging he can't adapt because he doesn't have the skills to pay the bills. I am very sympathetic to that kid and it is a damn shame. I'm actually disgusted by that and it's a HUGE ASS problem that is unfortunately getting worse.

We are of one mind when it comes to this. School districts spend the lionshare of the resources on the bottom third of students based on ability.

School boards and administrators just assume the smart kids will get through and be fine, ignoring the fact that smart kids will never live up to their highest potential if they are allowed to skate through the lower grades on their ability and aren't continually challenged.