(03-04-2015 12:32 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 05:28 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:07 PM)ddramone Wrote:  I have to say that 2013-2014 will be the thing that saves CJP's job into next year. There's just enough there - combined with AN's season-ending injury - to keep him here through next year. The 2013-2014 record I really thought was a signal that CJP had improved. Turns out that it was simply having a really good, experienced backcourt with Joe, Crawford, Dixon and Geron that did the trick.

If anything last year was a firm indicator of Josh's inability to coach. He had everything he needed to win a national championship. Many of those top 25 teams we played and lost to were much less experienced and talented than Memphis. Most games (including the ones we won), Josh looked and coached like a deer caught in headlights.

After the recruiting hit we took last year and now this year so far, it's pretty clear that most recruits have little to no interest in coming to Memphis right now. High school coaches and recruits' parents generally don't believe Josh can coach their kids and the far majority believe Josh runs an ineffective program, incapable of making any real attempt at a national title.

If you think we had the makings of a NC team last year then you need to look again. Last year's team was sweet 16 final 8 at best. Josh loaded up on pretty good players, but forgot to get great players.

I doubt very seriously going forward, if he is still here, he will ever get great players.. Skal was the one that probably would have been.. Seriously though who is going to want to come here and play for him?? I really believe his last good get will be the Lawson's and everyone knows why that happened.. If he doesn't turn his Coaching (X's and O's) around 360 degrees he will always struggle because there won't be anymore 4 or 5 star guys wanting to come here..


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To be fair. Calipari's record against ranked teams was around .400. Even in the elite eight 06/07 year we did horrible vs ranked opponents. One major difference though is the performance in the tourney & the comparison between player rankings coming out of high school. That's where the separation begins. Calipari did more with less. Pastner has done less with more.

Personally I look at JP's record since joining the AAC, prior to, not so much. Playing a couple of top 25 schools away or neutral in a season (while playing CUSA level schools otherwise) is a tough way to show a good record against the top 25. Beginning is '13-14 where there were a representative larger number of opportunities, I always thought we would get more wins & we did last year. But this year has been a slide back & it's on JP. Unfortunately I think JP will react by playing a softer schedule (left to him) & fans won't buy tickets. Like it or not fans want big time games AT HOME. Unfortunately the AAC is only providing 2-3 of those type games at best. We need to be playing UL, UTK, OM, Gonzaga home & home in long term series. Yeah, I know the push back on UTK & OM but these are the schools that will provide local interest & those are the schools that will most readily play us home & home. Great if we can get UK, KU, Texas, UCLA, Duke, UNC, on the home schedule but it's unlikely with any regularity, if at all.

(03-03-2015 04:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:54 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:41 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  Jason Smith, of all the local media people, has it out for Josh now. Is the next one going to be that Grant Milner has always had an anti-Pastner agenda?

wonder what happened.

me too, he's been a big defender on the twitter.

Josh closed everyone off from practice again.

Didn't want the secrets of his vaunted zone defense to go public.

... I was being sarcastic. There isn't a bigger homer in major local media than Jason Smith (not that there's anything wrong with that). If you're accusing Smith of having an anti Pastner bias, you need to recalibrate your antenna.

The media that has an exclusive inside point of view (247sports and the CA) have no ill feelings towards Josh. Grant and Jason just supply the facts and don't base their articles on hating Pastner.

(03-04-2015 12:32 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 05:28 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:07 PM)ddramone Wrote:  I have to say that 2013-2014 will be the thing that saves CJP's job into next year. There's just enough there - combined with AN's season-ending injury - to keep him here through next year. The 2013-2014 record I really thought was a signal that CJP had improved. Turns out that it was simply having a really good, experienced backcourt with Joe, Crawford, Dixon and Geron that did the trick.

If anything last year was a firm indicator of Josh's inability to coach. He had everything he needed to win a national championship. Many of those top 25 teams we played and lost to were much less experienced and talented than Memphis. Most games (including the ones we won), Josh looked and coached like a deer caught in headlights.

After the recruiting hit we took last year and now this year so far, it's pretty clear that most recruits have little to no interest in coming to Memphis right now. High school coaches and recruits' parents generally don't believe Josh can coach their kids and the far majority believe Josh runs an ineffective program, incapable of making any real attempt at a national title.

If you think we had the makings of a NC team last year then you need to look again. Last year's team was sweet 16 final 8 at best. Josh loaded up on pretty good players, but forgot to get great players.

UConn won the title. Florida made the FF. We were just as talented as those two teams.

(03-04-2015 01:02 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-04-2015 12:32 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 05:28 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 10:07 PM)ddramone Wrote:  I have to say that 2013-2014 will be the thing that saves CJP's job into http://csnbbs.com/jscripts/editor_themes...on.gifnext year. There's just enough there - combined with AN's season-ending injury - to keep him here through next year. The 2013-2014 record I really thought was a signal that CJP had improved. Turns out that it was simply having a really good, experienced backcourt with Joe, Crawford, Dixon and Geron that did the trick.

If anything last year was a firm indicator of Josh's inability to coach. He had everything he needed to win a national championship. Many of those top 25 teams we played and lost to were much less experienced and talented than Memphis. Most games (including the ones we won), Josh looked and coached like a deer caught in headlights.

After the recruiting hit we took last year and now this year so far, it's pretty clear that most recruits have little to no interest in coming to Memphis right now. High school coaches and recruits' parents generally don't believe Josh can coach their kids and the far majority believe Josh runs an ineffective program, incapable of making any real attempt at a national title.

If you think we had the makings of a NC team last year then you need to look again. Last year's team was sweet 16 final 8 at best. Josh loaded up on pretty good players, but forgot to get great players.

UConn won the title. Florida made the FF. We were just as talented as those two teams.

yep