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RE: New WMU Opponent
(02-27-2015 12:02 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 10:00 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Yeah, I really don't care who WMU lines up to lose against in 2017

Great example of how short-sighted you and some of the others are. You guys expect other league members to respect Schedulepalooza and Frazier's efforts to upgrade our schedule and yet you're not willing to acknowledge this achievement by WMU (and it has nothing to do with Fleck). This is a fellow MAC member improving its schedule, gaining some attention for the league in another part of the country. This isn't about praising the Broncos, it's seeing another league team getting a chance (albeit an extreme longshot) at playing a tradition-rich P5 program. Suppose USC has all types of offensive success and is looking for an opponent in five years, maybe they figure we had no trouble with one team from the MAC, let's schedule another, so Frazier (or whoever is AD by then) gets a chance for a great guarantee game. Some of you people simply can't see past Fleck to see the forest.

I agree with most of this. However from my perspective, not only is it nice to see a fellow MAC program garnering respect in the college football ranks, it is even better that their success is being driven by an NIU alum.

I do hope that the Broncos become a frustrated perennial second to NIU with Toledo dropping to third. That would be sweet!
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RE: New WMU Opponent
Quote:USC:
09/05/15 Arkansas State
09/12/15 Idaho

Interesting point on that. BUT they do play ND + their "4th OOC" is another PAC12 team. So, in comparison to a B10 or SEC team, their "Other 4 games" are:
- Ranking P5 (Notre Dame)
- Mid-Range P5 (Random P12 team)
- Mid-Range G5 (Ark State)
- Easy G5 (Idaho)

ALABAMA 2015 "Other 4 Games":
- Ranking P5 (Wisconsin)
- Mid-Range G5 (Midd Tenn State)
- Easy G5 (ULM)
- FCS/D1AA (Charleston Southern)

OHIO STATE 2015 "Other 4 Games":
- Mid-Range P5 (@VA-Tech)
- High-Level G5 (NIU)
- Mid-Range G5 (WMU)
- Easy G5 (Hawaii; Hawaii's only mid-range @Hawaii)

So in comparison, USC is not bad at all. One of their 4 games will always be appropriately a mid-range P5 -- so them having Notre Dame every year on top of that, they have a reasonably tough "Other 4 Games" if they also throw in a mid-range G5.

USC 2016: Alabama, Utah State
USC 2017: Texas, WMU

Quote:I do hope that the Broncos become a frustrated perennial second to NIU with Toledo dropping to third. That would be sweet!

For next year? I certainly couldn't complain. Having to play @Toledo next year, if we (WMU) got to 2nd place I would be more than fine with that (Going 7-1 or 6-2 Conference; below NIU or tie-breaker to win West goes to NIU by losing @NIU). There's little chance to beat both @NIU and @Toledo... on top of that, having to play an improved @Ohio + BGSU (top two MAC East)... after of course, having to play MSU, @Ohio State, and @GA-Southern (high-level G5) BEFORE we'd kick things off. Thank gawd CMU's going to suck and that game's at home...
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Re: RE: New WMU Opponent
(03-01-2015 01:46 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:USC:
09/05/15 Arkansas State
09/12/15 Idaho

Interesting point on that. BUT they do play ND + their "4th OOC" is another PAC12 team. So, in comparison to a B10 or SEC team, their "Other 4 games" are:
- Ranking P5 (Notre Dame)
- Mid-Range P5 (Random P12 team)
- Mid-Range G5 (Ark State)
- Easy G5 (Idaho)

ALABAMA 2015 "Other 4 Games":
- Ranking P5 (Wisconsin)
- Mid-Range G5 (Midd Tenn State)
- Easy G5 (ULM)
- FCS/D1AA (Charleston Southern)

OHIO STATE 2015 "Other 4 Games":
- Mid-Range P5 (@VA-Tech)
- High-Level G5 (NIU)
- Mid-Range G5 (WMU)
- Easy G5 (Hawaii; Hawaii's only mid-range @Hawaii)

So in comparison, USC is not bad at all. One of their 4 games will always be appropriately a mid-range P5 -- so them having Notre Dame every year on top of that, they have a reasonably tough "Other 4 Games" if they also throw in a mid-range G5.

USC 2016: Alabama, Utah State
USC 2017: Texas, WMU

Quote:I do hope that the Broncos become a frustrated perennial second to NIU with Toledo dropping to third. That would be sweet!

For next year? I certainly couldn't complain. Having to play @Toledo next year, if we (WMU) got to 2nd place I would be more than fine with that (Going 7-1 or 6-2 Conference; below NIU or tie-breaker to win West goes to NIU by losing @NIU). There's little chance to beat both @NIU and @Toledo... on top of that, having to play an improved @Ohio + BGSU (top two MAC East)... after of course, having to play MSU, @Ohio State, and @GA-Southern (high-level G5) BEFORE we'd kick things off. Thank gawd CMU's going to suck and that game's at home...

I'd be happy with WMU have definitive 2nd place finish as long as it meant Toledo couldn't claim a 'co-champion' title.
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