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Opinion: The AAC should add a 9th, permanent crossover, conference game
Scheduling is getting more and more difficult for most teams in this conference. I think a reduction in OOC games would create higher quality OOC deals in the long run (decrease in supply may tip negotiations in favor of upper echelon G5 teams? Purely hypothetical), but it would also help solidify this conference, and make some made-for-tv games every year.

Here's an example of teams that make the most sense in permanent crossovers:

UCF: Houston
ECU: Navy
SMU: UConn
Cinci: Memphis
USF: ... Tulane? They're both green?
Temple: Uh... Tulsa. Because TU. idk.

It works for the majority of the conference!
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RE: Opinion: The AAC should add a 9th, permanent crossover, conference game
(02-26-2015 04:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Scheduling is getting more and more difficult for most teams in this conference. I think a reduction in OOC games would create higher quality OOC deals in the long run (decrease in supply may tip negotiations in favor of upper echelon G5 teams? Purely hypothetical), but it would also help solidify this conference, and make some made-for-tv games every year.

Here's an example of teams that make the most sense in permanent crossovers:

UCF: Houston or Memphis
ECU: Navy
SMU: UConn

Of course, it doesn't work perfectly for other teams, I cant think of a team to match with Cincinnati or Temple (other than Houston, but I'm selfish and want to play the Cougs every year.)

ECU navy would be great
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RE: Opinion: The AAC should add a 9th, permanent crossover, conference game
Not a good idea. If you are worried about upgrading the OOC then require 2 or more P5 games a season and give extra money to teams that schedule 3 or 4.
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RE: Opinion: The AAC should add a 9th, permanent crossover, conference game
The only one that would really make sense is Navy-ECU.
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RE: Opinion: The AAC should add a 9th, permanent crossover, conference game
Also, each team can afford to drop a fluff game, while keeping the marquee games.

UCF: No need for Furman (FCS)
Tulane: Drop Maine!
Temple: No need for Charlotte
ECU: This one might be more difficult, I can understand the need for a warm up game against FCS when your other 3 are @Florida, @BYU, and vs. VT
Houston: Tenn Tech, or Texas State... either/or

You get the idea. We don't need a second warm up game, and we can accomplish that with a G4 rather than an FCS.
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(02-26-2015 04:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  The only one that would really make sense is Navy-ECU.

Cinci / Memphis is makes more sense, imo. They actually have history whereas ECU / Navy has proximity.

If you've seen the arguments between Houston and UCF you'd agree this one could be something too.

I like UConn - SMU because of the similar academic institutions (though UConn is public) and the budding basketball rivalry.
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(02-26-2015 05:01 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(02-26-2015 04:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  The only one that would really make sense is Navy-ECU.

Cinci / Memphis is makes more sense, imo. They actually have history whereas ECU / Navy has proximity.

If you've seen the arguments between Houston and UCF you'd agree this one could be something too.

I like UConn - SMU because of the similar academic institutions (though UConn is public) and the budding basketball rivalry.

The Cincy/Memphis game is huge this year. I personally like a crossover game with Cincy.
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RE: Opinion: The AAC should add a 9th, permanent crossover, conference game
ECU-Navy and Cinci-Memphis make perfect sense for permanent cross overs, but that's it. Something would develop in the others, but those are the only 2 natural ones. I'd only be in favor of this if it starts becoming harder for all of us to schedule quality OOC games (which could happen).
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Tulsa and UCF should be a permanent crossover. They had quite a rivalry in C-USA. Temple vs Navy could develope into a great regional rivalry, Navy has a long history of playing in Philly.

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IMO the AAC should be mandated to no longer play FCS games. These games fo nothing for the league profile in football. Such games need to be replaced with 1 for 1 vs top MAC or C-USA, or 1-1 / 2-1 deals with P5 opponents. Tulsa has started combining basketball into their series with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Playing the AAC in basketball carries some weight and can make scheduling return games for football easier.

AAC schools playing each other in non-conf matchups is better than playing FCS schools. Maybe split the gate 50/50 since one school is giving up a home gate to play a better opponent, yet still winningable game.


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RE: Opinion: The AAC should add a 9th, permanent crossover, conference game
Ya...I forgot about Cincinnati-Memphis.

I think the problem is that the other permanent crossovers that would make sense are currently in the same divisions (such as Temple-UCONN, UCF-USF, etc), playing every year already.
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RE: Opinion: The AAC should add a 9th, permanent crossover, conference game
(02-26-2015 04:59 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Also, each team can afford to drop a fluff game, while keeping the marquee games.

UCF: No need for Furman (FCS)
Tulane: Drop Maine!
Temple: No need for Charlotte
ECU: This one might be more difficult, I can understand the need for a warm up game against FCS when your other 3 are @Florida, @BYU, and vs. VT
Houston: Tenn Tech, or Texas State... either/or

You get the idea. We don't need a second warm up game, and we can accomplish that with a G4 rather than an FCS.

If you really believe that adding a 9th conference game will get teams to drop their 1AA match ups you are not living in the real world. With a 9 game conference schedule half the teams have 4 home games and 5 away they are more likely tto keep the FCS team with no return game to even out their home away schedule.
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(02-26-2015 05:24 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  ECU-Navy and Cinci-Memphis make perfect sense for permanent cross overs, but that's it. Something would develop in the others, but those are the only 2 natural ones. I'd only be in favor of this if it starts becoming harder for all of us to schedule quality OOC games (which could happen).

Navy already plays Army, Notre Dame, and Air Force every year. If they had a mandated 9th AAC game, they would have zero availability to schedule anyone else.

May be Navy would be okay with that, but I doubt it.

I am hopeful that Aresco and ESPN are helping to find many more BYU-American games!
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(02-26-2015 05:40 PM)texcane1982 Wrote:  IMO the AAC should be mandated to no longer play FCS games. These games fo nothing for the league profile in football. Such games need to be replaced with 1 for 1 vs top MAC or C-USA, or 1-1 / 2-1 deals with P5 opponents. Tulsa has started combining basketball into their series with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Playing the AAC in basketball carries some weight and can make scheduling return games for football easier.

AAC schools playing each other in non-conf matchups is better than playing FCS schools. Maybe split the gate 50/50 since one school is giving up a home gate to play a better opponent, yet still winningable game.


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Honest question...have you seen our OOC for the next 4-5 years? We are so overloaded with 2-1s and one off games at places like Texas and Ohio State that we have a major deficit in home OOC games. We need one more road OOC game along with FOUR home games just in the next few seasons.

How do you propose we fix the deficit? To me, our options are buy our way out of a few road games, play 3 on the road to 1 at home a season or two, or suck it up and contract single home games vs schools that will give it to us. Unfortunately, that's probably only FCS but is still seems like the lesser of evils here.

We're going to have to pay the piper at some point.
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(02-26-2015 05:40 PM)texcane1982 Wrote:  IMO the AAC should be mandated to no longer play FCS games. These games fo nothing for the league profile in football. Such games need to be replaced with 1 for 1 vs top MAC or C-USA, or 1-1 / 2-1 deals with P5 opponents. Tulsa has started combining basketball into their series with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Playing the AAC in basketball carries some weight and can make scheduling return games for football easier.

AAC schools playing each other in non-conf matchups is better than playing FCS schools. Maybe split the gate 50/50 since one school is giving up a home gate to play a better opponent, yet still winningable game.


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Agree. We tend to play a FCS, a G5, and two P5's. I wish we did two G5's and two P5's.
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I wouldn't mind a 9th conference game. I'd also like to see us schedule one game per year with the MWC.

My preference for games 9, 10, 11, and 12:

1) another AAC cross-division game
2) one P5 team
3) one MWC team
3) one game with whoever you want (P5, G5, or FCS) to give schools some flexibility
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(02-26-2015 04:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  The only one that would really make sense is Navy-ECU.

Memphis-Cincy makes some sense.
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While I agree the American Athletic Conference should play a 9 game Conference schedule. I'm not going to elaborate any further as to how and why they should. I will only say they should not while under this contract and this Media partner. It serves them no purpose at present. 07-coffee3
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Army can replace some FCS games for the AAC. I would love to play UCF or ECU (Have to beat them someday!).

I would like to see a nearly yearly series with SMU.
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(02-26-2015 04:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Scheduling is getting more and more difficult for most teams in this conference. I think a reduction in OOC games would create higher quality OOC deals in the long run (decrease in supply may tip negotiations in favor of upper echelon G5 teams? Purely hypothetical), but it would also help solidify this conference, and make some made-for-tv games every year.

Here's an example of teams that make the most sense in permanent crossovers:

UCF: Houston
ECU: Navy
SMU: UConn
Cinci: Memphis
USF: ... Tulane? They're both green?
Temple: Uh... Tulsa. Because TU. idk.

It works for the majority of the conference!

I HATE the idea of scheduling only three OOC games. Unfortunately (in my opinion), having a 9th conference game appears to make a lot of sense. Filling four OOC slots every season is challenging to many programs.
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