(02-26-2015 12:25 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:27 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 10:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  What choice did he have? He asked the Republicans to come up with a plan and gave them a year and a half to come up with one. They sat on their hands like they always do.

An immigration plan already exists. Some individuals have chosen to ignore that plan because it didn't suit their needs and entered the US illegally. No one forced them into a nebulous residency status, they chose to do so of their own volition.

Most Americans, most democrats, and many republicans agree that there is a need to reform that plan. Obama asked the republicans to come up with one and they didn't.

Now they are crying foul because Obama has taken over that task.

Obama can't take over that task. Its unconstitutional. Doesn't that bother you?

I agree that many Americans believe immigration needs some sort of attention. I'd appreciate if you could document that they all think it needs the SAME attention. I'd hazard a guess that many, if not most, believe it needs more funding for enforcement, not amnesty.

George - it doesn't bother Fit in the least, he views Obama as his King - and we all know that kings can do whatever they want. They, and Fit's Obama, are obviously above the law.

(02-26-2015 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:27 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 10:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  What choice did he have? He asked the Republicans to come up with a plan and gave them a year and a half to come up with one. They sat on their hands like they always do.

An immigration plan already exists. Some individuals have chosen to ignore that plan because it didn't suit their needs and entered the US illegally. No one forced them into a nebulous residency status, they chose to do so of their own volition.

Most Americans, most democrats, and many republicans agree that there is a need to reform that plan. Obama asked the republicans to come up with one and they didn't.

Now they are crying foul because Obama has taken over that task.

He isn't the dam King of the country. He also had the Feds ignore and not enforce existing laws. You want to fix illegal immigration, secure the border and deport all of them.

(02-26-2015 01:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:27 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 10:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  What choice did he have? He asked the Republicans to come up with a plan and gave them a year and a half to come up with one. They sat on their hands like they always do.

An immigration plan already exists. Some individuals have chosen to ignore that plan because it didn't suit their needs and entered the US illegally. No one forced them into a nebulous residency status, they chose to do so of their own volition.

Most Americans, most democrats, and many republicans agree that there is a need to reform that plan. Obama asked the republicans to come up with one and they didn't.

Now they are crying foul because Obama has taken over that task.

He isn't the dam King of the country. He also had the Feds ignore and not enforce existing laws. You want to fix illegal immigration, secure the border and deport all of them.

In 2008 O called for enforcing the laws on the books and streamlining the legal process. Now he ignores the laws he once said were sufficient

(02-26-2015 02:03 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 01:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:27 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 10:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  What choice did he have? He asked the Republicans to come up with a plan and gave them a year and a half to come up with one. They sat on their hands like they always do.

An immigration plan already exists. Some individuals have chosen to ignore that plan because it didn't suit their needs and entered the US illegally. No one forced them into a nebulous residency status, they chose to do so of their own volition.

Most Americans, most democrats, and many republicans agree that there is a need to reform that plan. Obama asked the republicans to come up with one and they didn't.

Now they are crying foul because Obama has taken over that task.

He isn't the dam King of the country. He also had the Feds ignore and not enforce existing laws. You want to fix illegal immigration, secure the border and deport all of them.

In 2008 O called for enforcing the laws on the books and streamlining the legal process. Now he ignores the laws he once said were sufficient

He has that right. Hasn't Rush Limbaugh ever changed your mind for you?

Good to see Obama finally showing some balls!

(02-26-2015 02:06 PM)dcCid Wrote:  Good to see Obama finally showing some balls!

By changing vernacular? That's showings some ball alright.

More Orwellian language.

(02-26-2015 02:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 02:03 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 01:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:27 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  An immigration plan already exists. Some individuals have chosen to ignore that plan because it didn't suit their needs and entered the US illegally. No one forced them into a nebulous residency status, they chose to do so of their own volition.

Most Americans, most democrats, and many republicans agree that there is a need to reform that plan. Obama asked the republicans to come up with one and they didn't.

Now they are crying foul because Obama has taken over that task.

He isn't the dam King of the country. He also had the Feds ignore and not enforce existing laws. You want to fix illegal immigration, secure the border and deport all of them.

In 2008 O called for enforcing the laws on the books and streamlining the legal process. Now he ignores the laws he once said were sufficient

He has that right. Hasn't Rush Limbaugh ever changed your mind for you?

Like Rush said today, if The Illegals become Legal they will be inline for say a family of 4 to receive Earned Income tax credit for 4 Years back credit of roughly $39,000 of Taxpayers money. He called it an investment to permanently Buy Democrat Voters. I say if true, Relocate All of Them to states the Democrats currently control so Democrats can take care of Them and Never alter the makeup of Red States.

(02-26-2015 09:04 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 02:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 02:03 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 01:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Most Americans, most democrats, and many republicans agree that there is a need to reform that plan. Obama asked the republicans to come up with one and they didn't.

Now they are crying foul because Obama has taken over that task.

He isn't the dam King of the country. He also had the Feds ignore and not enforce existing laws. You want to fix illegal immigration, secure the border and deport all of them.

In 2008 O called for enforcing the laws on the books and streamlining the legal process. Now he ignores the laws he once said were sufficient

He has that right. Hasn't Rush Limbaugh ever changed your mind for you?

Like Rush said today, if The Illegals become Legal they will be inline for say a family of 4 to receive Earned Income tax credit for 4 Years back credit of roughly $39,000 of Taxpayers money. He called it an investment to permanently Buy Democrat Voters. I say if true, Relocate All of Them to states the Democrats currently control so Democrats can take care of Them and Never alter the makeup of Red States.

Well if Rush said it then it must be true.

Yes.... All Hail our Dear Leader El Rushbo

(02-27-2015 11:17 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 09:04 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 02:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 02:03 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 01:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  He isn't the dam King of the country. He also had the Feds ignore and not enforce existing laws. You want to fix illegal immigration, secure the border and deport all of them.

In 2008 O called for enforcing the laws on the books and streamlining the legal process. Now he ignores the laws he once said were sufficient

He has that right. Hasn't Rush Limbaugh ever changed your mind for you?

Like Rush said today, if The Illegals become Legal they will be inline for say a family of 4 to receive Earned Income tax credit for 4 Years back credit of roughly $39,000 of Taxpayers money. He called it an investment to permanently Buy Democrat Voters. I say if true, Relocate All of Them to states the Democrats currently control so Democrats can take care of Them and Never alter the makeup of Red States.

Well if Rush said it then it must be true.

Damn straight more believable that anything King Obama comes up with !

Liberals sodomizing the language into a drab, dreary, sterile, emotionless, beige, wantonly bland, willfully dead, padded rubber room is amongst my biggest pet peeves politically.

Whichever liberal arts BS degree Ivy League / Berkeley-ite thought of this can make tender consensual yes means yes oral and lingual area sharing with sub lumbar region.

(02-26-2015 02:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 02:03 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 01:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-26-2015 11:27 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  An immigration plan already exists. Some individuals have chosen to ignore that plan because it didn't suit their needs and entered the US illegally. No one forced them into a nebulous residency status, they chose to do so of their own volition.

Most Americans, most democrats, and many republicans agree that there is a need to reform that plan. Obama asked the republicans to come up with one and they didn't.

Now they are crying foul because Obama has taken over that task.

He isn't the dam King of the country. He also had the Feds ignore and not enforce existing laws. You want to fix illegal immigration, secure the border and deport all of them.

In 2008 O called for enforcing the laws on the books and streamlining the legal process. Now he ignores the laws he once said were sufficient

He has that right. Hasn't Rush Limbaugh ever changed your mind for you?

The president DOES NOT have the right to ignore US laws. He swore a oath to do exactly the opposite.

Let's cut to the chase, they are DEMOCRATS in waiting.