Maybe not that big of deal but I think it's pretty darn good.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

(02-24-2015 12:12 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Maybe not that big of deal but I think it's pretty darn good.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

G5 really applies to Football and not basketball. A probably more accurate statement is a 2 G5 and 7 Mid Majors. Really not sure if Big East and A10 should be consider mid-majors for basketball.

I though the P5 and G5 only applies to football.

(02-24-2015 09:26 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:12 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Maybe not that big of deal but I think it's pretty darn good.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

G5 really applies to Football and not basketball. A probably more accurate statement is a 2 G5 and 7 Mid Majors. Really not sure if Big East and A10 should be consider mid-majors for basketball.

The big east would still be considered a power conference in basketball. If there's such thing, maybe the A10 is a high mid major..

National media outlets group bball into two categories major and mid major. All designate the P5, Big East and AAC as major. Some like CBS are more inclusive with the A10, MW and maybe even WCC...can't recall off the top of my head. One thing that I have noticed is that some "talking heads" are substituting the word power for major when discussing AAC, ACC, B1G, Big 12, Big East, SEC and PAC. I just watched an ESPN video forcasting "power conference" (P5 + AAC, Big East) ncaa bids. Within the last couple of days, I also listened to a SI podcast discussing disappointing teams within "power conferences" referencing the same seven conferences.

Only time will tell if P5 status will bleed over into basketball the way bcs did. I think the Big East prevents that to some extent which in turn helps a conference like the AAC with multiple programs having played at that level.

(02-24-2015 09:49 AM)ODUAlumni2015 Wrote:  I though the P5 and G5 only applies to football.

It applies to money. And greed.

The AAC doesn't have a seat at the big boys table.

Louisville isn't in your league anymore. UConn won't be much longer.

And in football, the AAC was one of the worst leagues in America.

That said, the original post is interesting.

(02-24-2015 09:49 AM)ODUAlumni2015 Wrote:  I though the P5 and G5 only applies to football.

It's supposed to, but I can't tell you how many times I saw "journalists" use BCS and non-BCS when describing basketball teams the last few years. It's just lazy and there's truly no excuse. I think a lot of message board posters are more knowledgeable than some of the people ESPN stick on TV.

(02-24-2015 09:26 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:12 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Maybe not that big of deal but I think it's pretty darn good.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

G5 really applies to Football and not basketball. A probably more accurate statement is a 2 G5 and 7 Mid Majors. Really not sure if Big East and A10 should be consider mid-majors for basketball.

No... don't think that is a more accurate statement at all.

(02-24-2015 11:59 AM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  The AAC doesn't have a seat at the big boys table.

Louisville isn't in your league anymore. UConn won't be much longer.

And in football, the AAC was one of the worst leagues in America.

That said, the original post is interesting.

I wonder if Memphis will be good again or if they peaked and are waning?

(02-24-2015 12:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:59 AM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  The AAC doesn't have a seat at the big boys table.

Louisville isn't in your league anymore. UConn won't be much longer.

And in football, the AAC was one of the worst leagues in America.

That said, the original post is interesting.

I wonder if Memphis will be good again or if they peaked and are waning?

...with fed-ex money backing????....I would imagine Pastner is skating on aqua at this point....

MEM hoops will be back at some point....it's only a matter of when

(02-24-2015 12:14 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:59 AM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  The AAC doesn't have a seat at the big boys table.

Louisville isn't in your league anymore. UConn won't be much longer.

And in football, the AAC was one of the worst leagues in America.

That said, the original post is interesting.

I wonder if Memphis will be good again or if they peaked and are waning?

...with fed-ex money backing????....I would imagine Pastner is skating on aqua at this point....

MEM hoops will be back at some point....it's only a matter of when

Maybe Calapari will give the NBA another shot and then come back.

I would think the AAC (well definitely the AAC), A10, CUSA, MW and MVC would be considered a step up from the rest of D1 but probably not included with the P5. Our problem is, this year CUSA is the weakest of that bunch.

"Power 5" etc terms are and have always been ridiculous to use in college basketball. The best was when people used BCS

(02-24-2015 10:55 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  National media outlets group bball into two categories major and mid major. All designate the P5, Big East and AAC as major. Some like CBS are more inclusive with the A10, MW and maybe even WCC...can't recall off the top of my head. One thing that I have noticed is that some "talking heads" are substituting the word power for major when discussing AAC, ACC, B1G, Big 12, Big East, SEC and PAC. I just watched an ESPN video forcasting "power conference" (P5 + AAC, Big East) ncaa bids. Within the last couple of days, I also listened to a SI podcast discussing disappointing teams within "power conferences" referencing the same seven conferences.

Only time will tell if P5 status will bleed over into basketball the way bcs did. I think the Big East prevents that to some extent which in turn helps a conference like the AAC with multiple programs having played at that level.

2 Categories? No.

High Major, Major, Mid Major, & Low Major have been used forever. He'll Roy Kramer and Co stole the term mid major and turned into a segregative out down in college football.

(02-24-2015 11:59 AM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  The AAC doesn't have a seat at the big boys table.

Louisville isn't in your league anymore. UConn won't be much longer.

And in football, the AAC was one of the worst leagues in America.

That said, the original post is interesting.

AAC is still considered a basketball power conf.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-...basketball

AAC is home to defending NC in both men's and women's hoops.

4 teams may make NCAA tourn this year from AAC.

Louisville hurt, but they didn't win it, UConn did. Still have strong programs in UConn, Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, Tulsa, and SMU.

I agree with you football still has work to do, although still has 3 programs that have been to BCS bowls (as opposed to zero for CUSA)

(02-24-2015 12:42 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 10:55 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  National media outlets group bball into two categories major and mid major. All designate the P5, Big East and AAC as major. Some like CBS are more inclusive with the A10, MW and maybe even WCC...can't recall off the top of my head. One thing that I have noticed is that some "talking heads" are substituting the word power for major when discussing AAC, ACC, B1G, Big 12, Big East, SEC and PAC. I just watched an ESPN video forcasting "power conference" (P5 + AAC, Big East) ncaa bids. Within the last couple of days, I also listened to a SI podcast discussing disappointing teams within "power conferences" referencing the same seven conferences.

Only time will tell if P5 status will bleed over into basketball the way bcs did. I think the Big East prevents that to some extent which in turn helps a conference like the AAC with multiple programs having played at that level.

2 Categories? No.

High Major, Major, Mid Major, & Low Major have been used forever. He'll Roy Kramer and Co stole the term mid major and turned into a segregative out down in college football.

There are multiple subsets of team categories WITHIN conferences, but only two that delineate conferences that I'm aware of for media purposes. For example, I haven't seen/heard anyone reference a conference as being "high major"...teams yes, conferences no. Well, there might be some who reference low mid-major conferences. However, the media lumps them in with mid majors for content purposes. This speaks to how the media packages messages. For instance, when recapping recruiting, projecting tournament bids, debating conference expectations, nine times out of ten they group the major conferences together and the mid major conferences together (regardless of subcategories). This doesn't mean that all teams in major conferences are considered "major" in terms of bball history or that a "major" team cannot exist in a mid major conference. It's simply how the media groups them for content.

I was/am curious to see if the term "power" bleeds over/replaces "major" like BCS did. So far, I have only noticed the two instances listed above so I don't think they are there yet or even think they ever will be...mainly due to the Big East, but also to the pedigree of teams in the AAC (at least for now). CUSA founding members may recall that it was still considered a major conference (by the media) right after the all sports conference was formed. Though many opposing coaches tried to publically apply the mid label, the media designation initially remained the same.

(02-24-2015 12:56 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:59 AM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  The AAC doesn't have a seat at the big boys table.

Louisville isn't in your league anymore. UConn won't be much longer.

And in football, the AAC was one of the worst leagues in America.

That said, the original post is interesting.

AAC is still considered a basketball power conf.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-...basketball

AAC is home to defending NC in both men's and women's hoops.

4 teams may make NCAA tourn this year from AAC.

Louisville hurt, but they didn't win it, UConn did. Still have strong programs in UConn, Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, Tulsa, and SMU.

I agree with you football still has work to do, although still has 3 programs that have been to BCS bowls (as opposed to zero for CUSA)

There's not much variance at all between G5 football conferences. IMO, the ONLY way the AAC can even try to make a claim for "tweener" status is bball. They are very reminiscent of the original CUSA in that way...considered by the media to be "major" in one revenue sport and "mid" in another.

RPI rank for P5 conferences (out of 32)

1. BigXII
3. ACC
4. B1G
5. Pac 12
6. SEC


G5 conferences-

8. AAC
10. MAC
12. MWC
17. CUSA
20. SBC

(02-24-2015 11:00 AM)58-56 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 09:49 AM)ODUAlumni2015 Wrote:  I though the P5 and G5 only applies to football.

It applies to money. And greed.

That makes sense.