This article should be forwarded to every AAC president. I hope we never let them in

(02-24-2015 10:06 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-23-2015 01:07 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  As to the reason why other G5 schools can't afford to adopt the full cost of attendance scholarship allotment. Marshall in particular.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/x2...g.comments

Landon is a moron and has no clue what is going on within the Marshall athletic department. You guys should know better by now to not rely on anything he says. Marshall announced last week that they fully support COA and will provide that to every student athlete on campus.

Based on what you and others have posted, I'll take your word on it. Considering the other article on budgets, the whole thing seems odd and a bit defeatist to me...not something I'd want to read as a fan of a particular school. Of course, realities of situations must be communicated, but I'm not exactly sure what these pieces hope to accomplish. It's a weird way to engage fanbases and/or donors.

(02-24-2015 11:13 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 10:06 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-23-2015 01:07 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  As to the reason why other G5 schools can't afford to adopt the full cost of attendance scholarship allotment. Marshall in particular.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/x2...g.comments

Landon is a moron and has no clue what is going on within the Marshall athletic department. You guys should know better by now to not rely on anything he says. Marshall announced last week that they fully support COA and will provide that to every student athlete on campus.

Based on what you and others have posted, I'll take your word on it. Considering the other article on budgets, the whole thing seems odd and a bit defeatist to me...not something I'd want to read as a fan of a particular school. Of course, realities of situations must be communicated, but I'm not exactly sure what these pieces hope to accomplish. It's a weird way to engage fanbases and/or donors.

It's Landon throwing a hissy fit is all. Marsha is right where they need to be - small school, small conference.

One of my favorite Chuck Landon tantrums is from a couple of years ago when the MAC added 2 games to their conference schedule in basketball and Ohio had to drop 2 non conference games, Marshall being one of them. As you can guess Chuck's reaction was measured and rational-

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...U-changing

What makes this rant especially hysterical is Landon's outrage at Ohio taking a year off in the series, as if this was something that is never done, ever. Except for 2006. And 2008. I like how he says that if Ohio doesn't schedule Marshall the following year (they didn't) then Marshall just needs to end this relationship. Because not over reacting is is not an option. Rage on Chuckie, rage on.

Quote: Pardon me for asking, but. ...

Is anybody hearing that Ohio University is dropping the basketball series with Marshall?

The rumors are true.

"They just said their schedule wouldn't allow us to play this coming year," said Marshall athletic director Mike Hamrick.

So, what gives? Why would a nearby rival drop a school it has played 100 times since 1954?

According to sources, the Bobcats offered the lame excuse that they ran out of room for another road game.

I call hogwash on that.

The crux of the matter is Ohio owed Marshall a game in Huntington after beating the Herd, 94-57, in Athens, Ohio, last season. But, now, the Bobcats are bailing on that obligation.

It sounds suspiciously like Ohio is blaming its non-conference schedule for not getting an at-large bid to the 2012 NCAA Tournament (Ohio went to the Sweet 16 in 2012, they didn't need an at-large bid.). And, of course, the Bobcats see Marshall and its 13-19 record as one of the culprits.

That leads to the real question in this controversy. Namely, is this a one-year hiatus or is the Marshall-Ohio basketball series over?

It could be kaput because Marshall's athletic officials definitely aren't happy with Ohio's stance. Nor should they be. This is a long-term rivalry with 100 meetings in basketball and 56 in football.

That's what makes Ohio's decision so unacceptable. I mean, these two schools aren't just casual rivals. But they soon could be.

I believe Marshall should tell Ohio that if the Bobcats aren't going to play the Herd in basketball, then MU is going to drop Ohio in football.

Don't let the door hit you in your stubby tail, Bobcats.

Sure, there are three games still remaining in the Marshall-Ohio football series, including a contest at Ohio at 8 p.m. on Sept. 14. Then, there are games at Marshall in 2014 and at Ohio in 2015.

But after that?

Unless Ohio revives the basketball series in 2014-15, Marshall needs to end this relationship.

Marshall should rejoin the MAC

Well, the article is about long term viability of fcoa not whether Marshall will do it in the short term. He is also postulating on roi.

(02-24-2015 11:13 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 10:06 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-23-2015 01:07 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  As to the reason why other G5 schools can't afford to adopt the full cost of attendance scholarship allotment. Marshall in particular.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/x2...g.comments

Landon is a moron and has no clue what is going on within the Marshall athletic department. You guys should know better by now to not rely on anything he says. Marshall announced last week that they fully support COA and will provide that to every student athlete on campus.

Based on what you and others have posted, I'll take your word on it. Considering the other article on budgets, the whole thing seems odd and a bit defeatist to me...not something I'd want to read as a fan of a particular school. Of course, realities of situations must be communicated, but I'm not exactly sure what these pieces hope to accomplish. It's a weird way to engage fanbases and/or donors.

You have to understand that Landon has been upset with the Marshall brass for quite some time now. Using the paper is his only way to spew his hate and agenda that he pushes.

how does Marshal get so much play time in the AAC forum, I don't get it? What is it about this cusa school that is 'must see tv' to a lot of you people? Let it go already gawd.

(02-24-2015 01:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  how does Marshal get so much play time in the AAC forum, I don't get it? What is it about this cusa school that is 'must see tv' to a lot of you people? Let it go already gawd.

I kind of thought the same thing, how does a Marshall-Ohio squabble wind up here? I don't really care either way, just seems very odd that teams in two other conferences have to bring that stuff to the board of a third conference.

(02-24-2015 10:40 AM)shere khan Wrote:  This article should be forwarded to every AAC president. I hope we never let them in

I hope if never comes to that again.

Marshall fans on the AAC board...

Landon is the gift that keeps on giving.

(02-24-2015 01:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  how does Marshal get so much play time in the AAC forum, I don't get it? What is it about this cusa school that is 'must see tv' to a lot of you people? Let it go already gawd.

Well the article and original point of the thread is certainly worth looking at. The AAc has to make sure we stay as close to the hip of the P5 as possible in the next 7-10 years. I suspect that cost alone with put an end to a lot of this discussion and smaller schools with smaller budgets like Marsha find themselves in conferences that are stretched to the limit before moving back to more regional play like the MAC. There's nothing wrong with being in a conference like that, but it is wrong for people to hold the opinion that Landon does and to blame schools that have the means to play with with big boys for doing so.

(02-23-2015 01:25 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  I don't disagree with anything in that article except student body size. The "problem" is indeed the AAC. The conference members are fully committed to doing whatever is necessary to keep up.....or at least from a public view perspective. We've got the same issues/challenges as every other G5 conference has, but we each have (on the average for public universities) larger student bodies over which to spread the cost. We're just not running out our front door crying "wolf".

Regarding student body size, Landon forgot that the USA database, which we've all used and perhaps he's just now discovered, only includes public universities. I believe that the AAC may have the smallest FBS playing student body in the NCAA in Tulsa.

There's more than that wrong with the article... starting with the hack of a writer acting like this was a new development. This quote in particular is pretty laughable:

Quote:The reality is the G5 leagues and their 60 members can't compete in an arms race with the Power Five conferences. That has become increasingly obvious during both groups' first year of existence.

First year of existence, eh? FFS, this has been going on for 25 years or more. We were never able to "keep up". "Keep up" is a misnomer because we have NEVER been on equal footing. There's no such thing as "equal footing" in anything. College football is no exception.

Also, if the $700K estimate is correct for Marshal... that's peanuts even for a school the size of Marshall. They can afford it and so can pretty much every othere G5 school. The only thing we need to forget about is this idiotic notion of "keeping up". See my previous point. On the facilities arms race it will simply NEVER HAPPEN, EVER. Even in the P5 can Purdue really "keep up" with Ohio State?

Wow, everyone seems excited about paying more money to be in the same position as they are now.

I think what he says about athletic fees going up is correct. It is a really bad way to fund this increase. the costs of a college education are already inflated due to the availability of federally backed student loans. Taking on more costs to the student is contrary to everything that the Universities should stand for. If you are paying that much to be a second class citizen, what is the point.

(02-24-2015 01:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  how does Marshal get so much play time in the AAC forum, I don't get it? What is it about this cusa school that is 'must see tv' to a lot of you people? Let it go already gawd.

You've never had to share a conference with Marshall.

Imagine the fans from WVU, only 10x as numerous with massive delusions of grandeur combined with an inferiority complex and you get the C-USA Marshall fan. It's the sweetest addiction to remind Marshall of reality and watch them come to terms with it.

(02-24-2015 02:04 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  how does Marshal get so much play time in the AAC forum, I don't get it? What is it about this cusa school that is 'must see tv' to a lot of you people? Let it go already gawd.

You've never had to share a conference with Marshall.

Imagine the fans from WVU, only 10x as numerous with massive delusions of grandeur combined with an inferiority complex and you get the C-USA Marshall fan. It's the sweetest addiction to remind Marshall of reality and watch them come to terms with it.

Some of them come over to argue that Chuck Landon doesn't represent their typical mindset, yet you get a thread like this on their Rivals board...

Quite interesting the arguments some of them conjure to make them feel so good about CUSA's superiority.

CUSA is waaaay above the AAC and none of them would join...

That thread is pretty good

(02-24-2015 02:38 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:04 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  how does Marshal get so much play time in the AAC forum, I don't get it? What is it about this cusa school that is 'must see tv' to a lot of you people? Let it go already gawd.

You've never had to share a conference with Marshall.

Imagine the fans from WVU, only 10x as numerous with massive delusions of grandeur combined with an inferiority complex and you get the C-USA Marshall fan. It's the sweetest addiction to remind Marshall of reality and watch them come to terms with it.

Some of them come over to argue that Chuck Landon doesn't represent their typical mindset, yet you get a thread like this on their Rivals board...

Quite interesting the arguments some of them conjure to make them feel so good about CUSA's superiority.

CUSA is waaaay above the AAC and none of them would join...

I saw the herdnation thread where they were talking about this article. They weren't disputing whether he was right or wrong, the were arguing the best ways to increase attendance to counter the problems laid out in this article.

(02-24-2015 02:38 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:04 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  how does Marshal get so much play time in the AAC forum, I don't get it? What is it about this cusa school that is 'must see tv' to a lot of you people? Let it go already gawd.

You've never had to share a conference with Marshall.

Imagine the fans from WVU, only 10x as numerous with massive delusions of grandeur combined with an inferiority complex and you get the C-USA Marshall fan. It's the sweetest addiction to remind Marshall of reality and watch them come to terms with it.

Some of them come over to argue that Chuck Landon doesn't represent their typical mindset, yet you get a thread like this on their Rivals board...

Quite interesting the arguments some of them conjure to make them feel so good about CUSA's superiority.

CUSA is waaaay above the AAC and none of them would join...

LOL he is legitimately saying CUSA and the Amrican are equal in baseball. The delusion is real. ECU in its worst year of the century finished middle of the conference.