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West Virginia hit with recruiting violations
"The NCAA slapped West Virginia with probation for self-reported recruiting violations in 14 different sports, including football.
According to a release from the NCAA, coaches from those sports “sent impermissible texts and placed impermissible calls to prospects and parents” between June 2010 and February 2013. The majority of the violations stemmed from the women’s gymnastics, football, women’s basketball and women’s soccer programs. Those programs committed “Level II violations,” while men’s basketball, baseball, men’s soccer, men’s wrestling, women’s tennis, women’s volleyball, men’s swimming, women’s diving, women’s rowing and women’s track and field all were determined to have committed “Level III violations.”

The violations committed by the football program were detailed in the NCAA’s Public Infractions Decision:

The enforcement staff and the institution agreed that between August 2010 and February 2013, 10 members of the football coaching staff and the football recruiting coordinator violated NCAA recruiting communication legislation by sending 46 impermissible text messages and placing 22 impermissible telephone calls to 45 football prospective student-athletes and one parent of a prospective student-athlete.
WVU previously self-imposed several sanctions stemming from earlier violations. Now, the athletic department will be subjected to two years of probation (through Feb. 17, 2017) and recruiting restrictions.

Per the NCAA’s release, several coaches involved (it does not specify which sports) “claimed a misunderstanding in some of the recruiting communication rules.” The school also cited confusion with certain compliance software.

From the NCAA:

A number of the coaches involved in the violations claimed a misunderstanding in some of the recruiting communication rules, which was the reason many of the violations occurred. Additionally, the school did not fully understand how to use compliance software it purchased to monitor phone and text activity. It wasn’t until the software company updated the software that the school learned of the violations. The violations occurred while the school was on probation from a previous infractions case."


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-s...21441.html



So the NCAA puts WVU on probation for recruiting violations in 14 sports.

Meanwhile they hire WVU AD Oliver Luck as executive vice president of the NCAA?

Who makes these decisions?
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This is why we're so good, dare I say unstoppable, in sports....
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WVU had even purchased software to monitor exactly what got the athletic department in trouble. But it either wasn't installed properly, was improperly configured, or just wasn't turned on. That falls on Ollie's shoulders too. For someone so smart, he sure made a lot of stupid mistakes.

Well, he's the NCAA's problem now.
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I didn't know Kelvin Sampson had coached at West Virginia. 04-cheers
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(02-19-2015 12:07 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  I didn't know Kelvin Sampson had coached at West Virginia. 04-cheers

03-lmfao 03-lmfao

To be fair to WV, their coaches seemed to have made some mistakes by misunderstanding the rules. Kelvin Sampson, knew the rules and tried to intentionally get around the rules by having someone else call the recruits and then put him on 3 way.
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Well, the NCAA can now drop their UNC investigation. They've slapped somebody. 07-coffee3
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(02-19-2015 12:13 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(02-19-2015 12:07 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  I didn't know Kelvin Sampson had coached at West Virginia. 04-cheers

03-lmfao 03-lmfao

To be fair to WV, their coaches seemed to have made some mistakes by misunderstanding the rules. Kelvin Sampson, knew the rules and tried to intentionally get around the rules by having someone else call the recruits and then put him on 3 way.

If Kelvin Sampson was having a 3 way with recruits, he deserves more than just probation. 07-coffee3
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(02-19-2015 11:46 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  WVU had even purchased software to monitor exactly what got the athletic department in trouble. But it either wasn't installed properly, was improperly configured, or just wasn't turned on. That falls on Ollie's shoulders too. For someone so smart, he sure made a lot of stupid mistakes.

Well, he's the NCAA's problem now.

While its understandable why these rules were put in place-to keep the recruits from being harassed, these are some of the silliest rules. You have to have software to keep track of it? That's bureaucratic overkill. This is one they are looking at in deregulation.

Some school, might have been Georgia, had violations because they didn't log in calls where no one answered.
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(02-19-2015 11:46 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  WVU had even purchased software to monitor exactly what got the athletic department in trouble. But it either wasn't installed properly, was improperly configured, or just wasn't turned on. That falls on Ollie's shoulders too. For someone so smart, he sure made a lot of stupid mistakes.

Well, he's the NCAA's problem now.

Doesn't that mean he's all of our problems Bit??
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(02-19-2015 02:20 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-19-2015 11:46 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  WVU had even purchased software to monitor exactly what got the athletic department in trouble. But it either wasn't installed properly, was improperly configured, or just wasn't turned on. That falls on Ollie's shoulders too. For someone so smart, he sure made a lot of stupid mistakes.

Well, he's the NCAA's problem now.
While its understandable why these rules were put in place-to keep the recruits from being harassed, these are some of the silliest rules. You have to have software to keep track of it? That's bureaucratic overkill. This is one they are looking at in deregulation.

Some school, might have been Georgia, had violations because they didn't log in calls where no one answered.
The way the rule book is written, it's almost impossible not to break some obscure regulation somewhere. The minor rule WVU violated will soon be eliminated altogether. But had the software been working properly, WVU could have been avoided this problem.
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If WV was already on probation shouldn't they get something more than just probation? These are minor violations but shouldn't the punishment be a touch more severe since they were on probation? Did WV self impose any punishment?

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(02-19-2015 12:21 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Well, the NCAA can now drop their UNC investigation. They've slapped somebody. 07-coffee3

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So what is the nature of the probation, i.e., the tangible aspects? No bowl trips, scholarship limits, TV limits?
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(02-20-2015 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  So what is the nature of the probation, i.e., the tangible aspects? No bowl trips, scholarship limits, TV limits?
This might help a bit.

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(02-20-2015 09:03 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  If WV was already on probation shouldn't they get something more than just probation? These are minor violations but shouldn't the punishment be a touch more severe since they were on probation? Did WV self impose any punishment?

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They stripped one football scholly from the 2013-2014 team. What more do you want? 04-rock
Meanwhile in North Carolina..................
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(02-20-2015 12:02 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-20-2015 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  So what is the nature of the probation, i.e., the tangible aspects? No bowl trips, scholarship limits, TV limits?
This might help a bit.

WVU Sports with Mike Casazza

OK, so this "probation" is actually the slightest tap on the wrist. 07-coffee3
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(02-20-2015 01:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-20-2015 12:02 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-20-2015 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  So what is the nature of the probation, i.e., the tangible aspects? No bowl trips, scholarship limits, TV limits?
This might help a bit.

WVU Sports with Mike Casazza
OK, so this "probation" is actually the slightest tap on the wrist. 07-coffee3
For violations that will soon cease to be violations too. Not everyone can do that.
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(02-20-2015 12:27 PM)lofi Wrote:  
(02-20-2015 09:03 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  If WV was already on probation shouldn't they get something more than just probation? These are minor violations but shouldn't the punishment be a touch more severe since they were on probation? Did WV self impose any punishment?

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They stripped one football scholly from the 2013-2014 team. What more do you want? 04-rock
Meanwhile in North Carolina..................

Ahh, that makes sense. The NCAA needs to hammer NC.

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