Neither I nor Bearcat54 said that, so enough with the straw man. We need to recruit and sign the best available players, and it is statistically improbable that the coach has been doing that when he hasn't signed a white player in years.

It is discussed on these boards all the time in euphemisms like "low basketball IQ" and "long,tall atheletes." Bearcat54 and I are just stating the obvious.

(02-20-2015 07:36 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Oh... My... GOD.

Are we actually having this conversation???

The word "we" would include me also. And I have no desire to be associated with this racially motivated BS.

So, yes, THEY are having that conversation, and I am out of it.

This thread has become depressing. UC's issues are a lack of white players now? I've heard it all.

(02-20-2015 07:52 AM)subflea Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:19 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:14 AM)InspectorHound Wrote:  Is Luke Kennard white? Mick Cronin recruited Luke Kennard (way before Coach K and co. got involved). Thus, the statement is 100% false. If you care that much about having white players, go watch the lacrosse team or something.

I just hate that arrogant attitude that white guys can't play. Meanwhile, many programs with white contributors have had more success than Cronin's.

Kennard is the execption that proves the rule. In other words, you are saying that Mick won't recruit a white guy unless he's a superstar like Luke Kennard. The problem is that by refusing to sign ordinary white players, when a Kennard pops up 30 miles from campus, we can't land him because he doesn't want to be the only white guy on an otherwise all-AA squad.

Kennard is not an exception that proves anything. There have been other white players the program has recruited.

I also highly doubt that the racial makeup of the team is the reason he chose to play for Duke over UC. If any player did use that as a reason to not play at UC, then we are better off with them going elsewhere.

I forget the guy's name, but they were in on that center who went to Michigan, and started for their FF team of a few years ago.

(02-20-2015 08:45 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:52 AM)subflea Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:19 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:14 AM)InspectorHound Wrote:  Is Luke Kennard white? Mick Cronin recruited Luke Kennard (way before Coach K and co. got involved). Thus, the statement is 100% false. If you care that much about having white players, go watch the lacrosse team or something.

I just hate that arrogant attitude that white guys can't play. Meanwhile, many programs with white contributors have had more success than Cronin's.

Kennard is the execption that proves the rule. In other words, you are saying that Mick won't recruit a white guy unless he's a superstar like Luke Kennard. The problem is that by refusing to sign ordinary white players, when a Kennard pops up 30 miles from campus, we can't land him because he doesn't want to be the only white guy on an otherwise all-AA squad.

Kennard is not an exception that proves anything. There have been other white players the program has recruited.

I also highly doubt that the racial makeup of the team is the reason he chose to play for Duke over UC. If any player did use that as a reason to not play at UC, then we are better off with them going elsewhere.

I forget the guy's name, but they were in on that center who went to Michigan, and started for their FF team of a few years ago.

Mitch Mcgary, I'm sure he's an exception too though. Like I've said earlier in these threads, Mick can't make them sign.

(02-20-2015 08:48 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 08:45 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:52 AM)subflea Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:19 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:14 AM)InspectorHound Wrote:  Is Luke Kennard white? Mick Cronin recruited Luke Kennard (way before Coach K and co. got involved). Thus, the statement is 100% false. If you care that much about having white players, go watch the lacrosse team or something.

I just hate that arrogant attitude that white guys can't play. Meanwhile, many programs with white contributors have had more success than Cronin's.

Kennard is the execption that proves the rule. In other words, you are saying that Mick won't recruit a white guy unless he's a superstar like Luke Kennard. The problem is that by refusing to sign ordinary white players, when a Kennard pops up 30 miles from campus, we can't land him because he doesn't want to be the only white guy on an otherwise all-AA squad.

Kennard is not an exception that proves anything. There have been other white players the program has recruited.

I also highly doubt that the racial makeup of the team is the reason he chose to play for Duke over UC. If any player did use that as a reason to not play at UC, then we are better off with them going elsewhere.

I forget the guy's name, but they were in on that center who went to Michigan, and started for their FF team of a few years ago.

Mitch Mcgary, I'm sure he's an exception too though. Like I've said earlier in these threads, Mick can't make them sign.

There is no way Kennard was coming to UC. What Mick needs is guys who can make shots, field goals and free throws, be they black, white, brown, or green.

(02-20-2015 08:43 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:36 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Oh... My... GOD.

Are we actually having this conversation???

The word "we" would include me also. And I have no desire to be associated with this racially motivated BS.

So, yes, THEY are having that conversation, and I am out of it.

I thought of that too... Because I have stayed out of the conversation up until that moment. It is a salient grammatical point.

shooters white black hawaiian chinese austrailian canadian mexican I dont care been saying it for 5 years SHOOTERS

(02-20-2015 09:07 AM)mikecat Wrote:  shooters white black hawaiian chinese austrailian canadian mexican I dont care been saying it for 5 years SHOOTERS

Dont care if they cant guard this pop can on my desk,sign them and get them on the floor!!

(02-20-2015 09:07 AM)mikecat Wrote:  shooters white black hawaiian chinese austrailian canadian mexican I dont care been saying it for 5 years SHOOTERS

Not just shooters, but we need to have some type of organized offense. Right now, we don't have that; it's just pass the ball around the key and heave a 3 as the shot clock runs out. Mick has to know better than that, I mean he apprenticed under one of the best offensive coaches in history. These players just aren't capable of running anything.

(02-20-2015 07:19 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:14 AM)InspectorHound Wrote:  Is Luke Kennard white? Mick Cronin recruited Luke Kennard (way before Coach K and co. got involved). Thus, the statement is 100% false. If you care that much about having white players, go watch the lacrosse team or something.

I just hate that arrogant attitude that white guys can't play. Meanwhile, many programs with white contributors have had more success than Cronin's.

Kennard is the execption that proves the rule. In other words, you are saying that Mick won't recruit a white guy unless he's a superstar like Luke Kennard. The problem is that by refusing to sign ordinary white players, when a Kennard pops up 30 miles from campus, we can't land him because he doesn't want to be the only white guy on an otherwise all-AA squad.

I already regret replying to this, but the fact that you even care about this says a lot about you.

Can we either close this thread or get it back on track? I'm extremely embarrassed for our entire fan base.

(02-20-2015 09:22 AM)#BearcatNation Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:19 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:14 AM)InspectorHound Wrote:  Is Luke Kennard white? Mick Cronin recruited Luke Kennard (way before Coach K and co. got involved). Thus, the statement is 100% false. If you care that much about having white players, go watch the lacrosse team or something.

I just hate that arrogant attitude that white guys can't play. Meanwhile, many programs with white contributors have had more success than Cronin's.

Kennard is the execption that proves the rule. In other words, you are saying that Mick won't recruit a white guy unless he's a superstar like Luke Kennard. The problem is that by refusing to sign ordinary white players, when a Kennard pops up 30 miles from campus, we can't land him because he doesn't want to be the only white guy on an otherwise all-AA squad.

I already regret replying to this, but the fact that you even care about this says a lot about you.

Can we either close this thread or get it back on track? I'm extremely embarrassed for our entire fan base.

I second your comments and motion.

(02-20-2015 09:05 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 08:43 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:36 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Oh... My... GOD.

Are we actually having this conversation???

The word "we" would include me also. And I have no desire to be associated with this racially motivated BS.

So, yes, THEY are having that conversation, and I am out of it.

I thought of that too... Because I have stayed out of the conversation up until that moment. It is a salient grammatical point.

Yes Jerry I know what you meant... but I decided to be emphatic :-)

Per Nation's and HoopsFan's posts, this thread is locked, until I find time to clean it up.