(03-02-2015 09:33 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 09:06 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 12:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Directional schools are a state of mind. The schools in the AAC are fighting and winning the directional label. USC is a directional school too...but no one would ever say they are.

Yup...the University of "Southern" California is a "Directional/Mid Major...

First, the "mid-major" term makes no sense at all. Secondly, the question was whether the directional label makes a difference, and that's separate from whether they're P5 or G5.

Mid-Major is a term that is relevant. It is usually Mid or low majors that are called directional schools.

NIU is a mid-major/directional to most sports fans.

And "directional" is intended for public schools with geographic directions in their names that are regional schools, often regional just within their own state. Jacksonville St. is regional in Alabama, but calling it directional just sounds stupid. South Alabama would be both regional and directional. USC, SMU and Northwestern are not public and not regional, so they are not "directional."

A school like Houston is pretty regional within Texas (although they have a fair international presence), but its an urban school, not directional. Urban would be a more accurate description for South Florida, even though its got the direction in its name. SW, SE, NE, NW, Central Missouri were directionals, along with Missouri Southern and Missouri Western (no one did directionals like Missouri-but a couple have abandoned them).

I also link state-city schools with directionals.

UT-El Paso
UT-San Antonio
Alabama-Birmingham
UNC-Charlotte
Louisiana-Lafayette
UC-Los Angeles

Fair point about USC, but there is no other P5 school with a direction in its name (don't give me NC, SC, WV - state names.) Generally directional is associated with the mid majors, which are populated by many of the newer FBS schools.

(03-02-2015 11:46 AM)westwolf Wrote:  Fair point about USC, but there is no other P5 school with a direction in its name (don't give me NC, SC, WV - state names.) Generally directional is associated with the mid majors, which are populated by many of the newer FBS schools.

can we include TCU? Texas Christian University... or Northwestern?

The AAC at this juncture has Army and BYU at the top of its list.

Anyone else is a plan B for the AAC.

(03-02-2015 01:04 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The AAC at this juncture has Army and BYU at the top of its list.

Anyone else is a plan B for the AAC.

BYU isn't going to the AAC, they want a P5 invite waiting if they even seriously want to lose independence. Army? Eh, well maybe... but still I think that's a bit of a long shot as well.

(03-02-2015 11:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:33 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 09:06 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 12:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Directional schools are a state of mind. The schools in the AAC are fighting and winning the directional label. USC is a directional school too...but no one would ever say they are.

Yup...the University of "Southern" California is a "Directional/Mid Major...

First, the "mid-major" term makes no sense at all. Secondly, the question was whether the directional label makes a difference, and that's separate from whether they're P5 or G5.

Mid-Major is a term that is relevant. It is usually Mid or low majors that are called directional schools.

NIU is a mid-major/directional to most sports fans.

And "directional" is intended for public schools with geographic directions in their names that are regional schools, often regional just within their own state. Jacksonville St. is regional in Alabama, but calling it directional just sounds stupid. South Alabama would be both regional and directional. USC, SMU and Northwestern are not public and not regional, so they are not "directional."

A school like Houston is pretty regional within Texas (although they have a fair international presence), but its an urban school, not directional. Urban would be a more accurate description for South Florida, even though its got the direction in its name. SW, SE, NE, NW, Central Missouri were directionals, along with Missouri Southern and Missouri Western (no one did directionals like Missouri-but a couple have abandoned them).

It's directional if it has a direction in it, except for those that are named after the state, like South Carolina. Hence, USC is a directional school, even though it's a P5. The fact that the media pundits ignore that fact doesn't mean it's not a fact. And how can you have mid-majors when no one ever refers to any of the other schools as high majors or low majors? Makes no sense.

UC is now following the Louisville Plan. Bearcats your campus and Athletic facilities are now looking boss!

(03-02-2015 10:56 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 12:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Directional schools are a state of mind. The schools in the AAC are fighting and winning the directional label. USC is a directional school too...but no one would ever say they are.

USC is not a directional school. They are private school founded in 1880. Nothing like the directional G5 schools. Don't bring up Northwestern either.

Why does it matter when they were founded? In any case, NIU (just as an example) was founded in 1895, which isn't a whole lot later. Some of the other directional schools might be even older.

(03-02-2015 03:15 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  UC is now following the Louisville Plan. Bearcats your campus and Athletic facilities are now looking boss!

Thanks! Hopefully the Bearcats land as well as the Cardinals.
To those who have never been to UC's campus: there is a reason why it was voted on of the Top 10 Best College Campuses in the World and that was before Nippert Remodeling and Expansion was done! If you find yourself in Cincinnati, a stop at UC is well worth you time and travel.

(03-02-2015 03:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:33 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 09:06 PM)Maize Wrote:  Yup...the University of "Southern" California is a "Directional/Mid Major...

First, the "mid-major" term makes no sense at all. Secondly, the question was whether the directional label makes a difference, and that's separate from whether they're P5 or G5.

Mid-Major is a term that is relevant. It is usually Mid or low majors that are called directional schools.

NIU is a mid-major/directional to most sports fans.

And "directional" is intended for public schools with geographic directions in their names that are regional schools, often regional just within their own state. Jacksonville St. is regional in Alabama, but calling it directional just sounds stupid. South Alabama would be both regional and directional. USC, SMU and Northwestern are not public and not regional, so they are not "directional."

A school like Houston is pretty regional within Texas (although they have a fair international presence), but its an urban school, not directional. Urban would be a more accurate description for South Florida, even though its got the direction in its name. SW, SE, NE, NW, Central Missouri were directionals, along with Missouri Southern and Missouri Western (no one did directionals like Missouri-but a couple have abandoned them).

It's directional if it has a direction in it, except for those that are named after the state, like South Carolina. Hence, USC is a directional school, even though it's a P5. The fact that the media pundits ignore that fact doesn't mean it's not a fact. And how can you have mid-majors when no one ever refers to any of the other schools as high majors or low majors? Makes no sense.

Mid-majors is a term invented for basketball (popularized if not invented by ESPN). They view the P5 as high majors and most of the schools in conferences like the Ohio Valley and Southland as "low majors." They're all Division I. People have started using it for FBS football.

You don't understand the concept of directional. Its about state schools. USC is private. It could be the University of Los Angeles or the University of J Paul Getty or the University of South Central, but it still wouldn't be "directional" as the term is used. Directional schools got named after a region of a state instead of the whole state like a Michigan or Michigan St. Instead they are Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan or Northern Michigan.

(03-02-2015 05:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 03:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:33 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  First, the "mid-major" term makes no sense at all. Secondly, the question was whether the directional label makes a difference, and that's separate from whether they're P5 or G5.

Mid-Major is a term that is relevant. It is usually Mid or low majors that are called directional schools.

NIU is a mid-major/directional to most sports fans.

And "directional" is intended for public schools with geographic directions in their names that are regional schools, often regional just within their own state. Jacksonville St. is regional in Alabama, but calling it directional just sounds stupid. South Alabama would be both regional and directional. USC, SMU and Northwestern are not public and not regional, so they are not "directional."

A school like Houston is pretty regional within Texas (although they have a fair international presence), but its an urban school, not directional. Urban would be a more accurate description for South Florida, even though its got the direction in its name. SW, SE, NE, NW, Central Missouri were directionals, along with Missouri Southern and Missouri Western (no one did directionals like Missouri-but a couple have abandoned them).

It's directional if it has a direction in it, except for those that are named after the state, like South Carolina. Hence, USC is a directional school, even though it's a P5. The fact that the media pundits ignore that fact doesn't mean it's not a fact. And how can you have mid-majors when no one ever refers to any of the other schools as high majors or low majors? Makes no sense.

Mid-majors is a term invented for basketball (popularized if not invented by ESPN). They view the P5 as high majors and most of the schools in conferences like the Ohio Valley and Southland as "low majors." They're all Division I. People have started using it for FBS football.

You don't understand the concept of directional. Its about state schools. USC is private. It could be the University of Los Angeles or the University of J Paul Getty or the University of South Central, but it still wouldn't be "directional" as the term is used. Directional schools got named after a region of a state instead of the whole state like a Michigan or Michigan St. Instead they are Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan or Northern Michigan.

Why is that? If a team's name has a direction in it, it's directional. If some people think that that's incorrect, well then I can't help them. It's only logic. It's like people in Chicago referring to anything outside Chicago as "downstate". They call it that, but it doesn't make sense.

(03-02-2015 05:51 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 05:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 03:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 09:33 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Mid-Major is a term that is relevant. It is usually Mid or low majors that are called directional schools.

NIU is a mid-major/directional to most sports fans.

And "directional" is intended for public schools with geographic directions in their names that are regional schools, often regional just within their own state. Jacksonville St. is regional in Alabama, but calling it directional just sounds stupid. South Alabama would be both regional and directional. USC, SMU and Northwestern are not public and not regional, so they are not "directional."

A school like Houston is pretty regional within Texas (although they have a fair international presence), but its an urban school, not directional. Urban would be a more accurate description for South Florida, even though its got the direction in its name. SW, SE, NE, NW, Central Missouri were directionals, along with Missouri Southern and Missouri Western (no one did directionals like Missouri-but a couple have abandoned them).

It's directional if it has a direction in it, except for those that are named after the state, like South Carolina. Hence, USC is a directional school, even though it's a P5. The fact that the media pundits ignore that fact doesn't mean it's not a fact. And how can you have mid-majors when no one ever refers to any of the other schools as high majors or low majors? Makes no sense.

Mid-majors is a term invented for basketball (popularized if not invented by ESPN). They view the P5 as high majors and most of the schools in conferences like the Ohio Valley and Southland as "low majors." They're all Division I. People have started using it for FBS football.

You don't understand the concept of directional. Its about state schools. USC is private. It could be the University of Los Angeles or the University of J Paul Getty or the University of South Central, but it still wouldn't be "directional" as the term is used. Directional schools got named after a region of a state instead of the whole state like a Michigan or Michigan St. Instead they are Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan or Northern Michigan.

Why is that? If a team's name has a direction in it, it's directional. If some people think that that's incorrect, well then I can't help them. It's only logic. It's like people in Chicago referring to anything outside Chicago as "downstate". They call it that, but it doesn't make sense.

Look up the term colloquial and you might understand. As it is, you are totally missing the point Mr. Spock.

(03-02-2015 05:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 05:51 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 05:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 03:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 11:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  And "directional" is intended for public schools with geographic directions in their names that are regional schools, often regional just within their own state. Jacksonville St. is regional in Alabama, but calling it directional just sounds stupid. South Alabama would be both regional and directional. USC, SMU and Northwestern are not public and not regional, so they are not "directional."

A school like Houston is pretty regional within Texas (although they have a fair international presence), but its an urban school, not directional. Urban would be a more accurate description for South Florida, even though its got the direction in its name. SW, SE, NE, NW, Central Missouri were directionals, along with Missouri Southern and Missouri Western (no one did directionals like Missouri-but a couple have abandoned them).

It's directional if it has a direction in it, except for those that are named after the state, like South Carolina. Hence, USC is a directional school, even though it's a P5. The fact that the media pundits ignore that fact doesn't mean it's not a fact. And how can you have mid-majors when no one ever refers to any of the other schools as high majors or low majors? Makes no sense.

Mid-majors is a term invented for basketball (popularized if not invented by ESPN). They view the P5 as high majors and most of the schools in conferences like the Ohio Valley and Southland as "low majors." They're all Division I. People have started using it for FBS football.

You don't understand the concept of directional. Its about state schools. USC is private. It could be the University of Los Angeles or the University of J Paul Getty or the University of South Central, but it still wouldn't be "directional" as the term is used. Directional schools got named after a region of a state instead of the whole state like a Michigan or Michigan St. Instead they are Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan or Northern Michigan.

Why is that? If a team's name has a direction in it, it's directional. If some people think that that's incorrect, well then I can't help them. It's only logic. It's like people in Chicago referring to anything outside Chicago as "downstate". They call it that, but it doesn't make sense.

Look up the term colloquial and you might understand. As it is, you are totally missing the point Mr. Spock.

Well, the point of the thread had nothing to do with directional schools so we're both off the mark. I was just remarking on the stupidity of people's use of the English language. And I know what colloquial means.

(03-02-2015 03:15 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  UC is now following the Louisville Plan. Bearcats your campus and Athletic facilities are now looking boss!

Thank you! It's great to have forward-looking leadership. Look forward to renewing our rivalry soon!