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Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
1. Expensive Spring trips
2. Lousy weather when you get back
3. Most schools have very poor attendance
4. The chances of a cold weather school doing anything in the NCAA's is not good

Give each school a choice what sports besides football and basketball that they want to sponsor.
02-17-2015 11:49 AM
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
Should The MAC Stop Requiring Football At Every School?

1. Most expensive road trips of any sport
2. Lousy weather.
3. Most schools have very poor attendance
4. The chances of a MAC school doing anything in the BCS Playoff is not good
02-17-2015 12:25 PM
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
(02-17-2015 11:49 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  1. Expensive Spring trips
2. Lousy weather when you get back
3. Most schools have very poor attendance
4. The chances of a cold weather school doing anything in the NCAA's is not good

Give each school a choice what sports besides football and basketball that they want to sponsor.

Bad question for Kent State fans, but I understand where most of the MAC is coming from.
02-17-2015 12:30 PM
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
I follow MAC baseball (a LITTLE).

I think the NCAA should shorten the season by say 2 weeks and delay the start two weeks.

Baseball started LAST WEEKEND with wind chills in parts of the Midwest/Northeast, etc. say minus 10 to minus 20. Is that indicative of the time to start baseball?

Why does the sun belt need college baseball in February when MLB doesn't start until approximately April 1?

Start March 1 with say the first two or three weeks in warmer climates and then start heading northward.
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
(02-17-2015 12:40 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Baseball started LAST WEEKEND with wind chills in parts of the Midwest/Northeast, etc. say minus 10 to minus 20. Is that indicative of the time to start baseball?

Kent State had a game cancelled at Winthrop (Rock Hill, SC) because it was sunny, but ONLY 35 degrees. Bunch of babies!! 03-hissyfit
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
I like baseball, but it's tough for northern states for obvious reasons.

I don't know how this/if would work, but it would be cool if northern state schools had their baseball season from May to August instead of Feb - May.
02-17-2015 12:54 PM
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
The same argument here goes for softball as well.. Their season started two weeks ago.
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
I'm an advocate for swapping Baseball and Soccer seasons. Baseball in the late summer and fall, and soccer in the spring.
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
Playing college baseball through the summer and having the CWS in early fall? That's so preposterous (to the southern schools) and makes too much common sense (to the northern schools).
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You really can't move the NCAA tournament later. The MLB draft happens in June, and the guys turning pro wouldn't want to play college much longer.
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It is kind of weird - the conference championship happens after some of the schools break for summer. The baseball team's still practicing when the campus is empty.
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(02-17-2015 03:42 PM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  You really can't move the NCAA tournament later. The MLB draft happens in June, and the guys turning pro wouldn't want to play college much longer.

My proposal wouldn't change it, but eliminate the first two weeks of the season.

Seasons, in all sports, pro and college, could afford to be trimmed 5 - 10%.

Drop one or two exhibition games in NFL. One game in NCAA FB. Eight games in MLB. and so on and so on. (I remember the NFL joke of old: 14 regular season games and SIX exhibition games. WHO [which position players] needed six games??? I understand why MLB has long spring training, i.e., to stretch out the starting pitchers).
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
(02-17-2015 11:49 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  1. Expensive Spring trips
2. Lousy weather when you get back
3. Most schools have very poor attendance
4. The chances of a cold weather school doing anything in the NCAA's is not good

Give each school a choice what sports besides football and basketball that they want to sponsor.

yes, IF you can explain how these reasons don't impact B1G baseball teams.
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
(02-17-2015 04:29 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(02-17-2015 11:49 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  1. Expensive Spring trips
2. Lousy weather when you get back
3. Most schools have very poor attendance
4. The chances of a cold weather school doing anything in the NCAA's is not good

Give each school a choice what sports besides football and basketball that they want to sponsor.

yes, IF you can explain how these reasons don't impact B1G baseball teams.

B1G baseball isn't all that great. Still...

1. Expense doesn't matter to the B1G. They have private jets fly them everywhere, which results in less road fatigue.

2. Weather is still a factor. No difference there.

3. The B1G has much, much nicer baseball stadiums, and some even have suites. It's more comfortable to watch a game.

4. They can afford to recruit better talent and hire better coaches. Nice facilities, luxurious travel, etc. draw in better players and recruits. Money gives the B1G a serious edge over other northern conferences and that's still not enough to completely make up for the geography issue.
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Once Kent starts renovations on Schnoover Stadium it will be right there with the B1G stadiums. The next set takes the capacity from 500 to 1500.

KENT - 1500

OSU - 4450
IU - 2500
UM - 4000
ILL - 1500
IOWA - 3000
NW - 6000
NU - 4000
MINN - 1420
MSU - 2500
TERPS - 2500
PSU - 5406
RU - 1500
PU - 1500
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Hayden Park in Oxford is a gem, and they're finally getting baseball-only locker rooms and player facilities built on site. No way Miami even thinks about eliminating baseball.
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If I remember right, the b10 has been a 1 bid league in baseball, with Indiana being the cream of the crop
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
Dropping baseball would save $, help with Title IX, total cost of attendance, etc.

Sadly, it is an easy solution to a lot of problems...

E.g., a school like EMU which has ROWING as a women's sport, could be dropped if baseball was dropped...
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(02-17-2015 04:29 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  yes, IF you can explain how these reasons don't impact B1G baseball teams.

The B1G has made several proposals to change college baseball, including delaying the schedule, allowing some of the season to played in the fall, and operating a separate summer league for northern teams. The southern teams said GFY and keep sending your baseball teams down here so we can have home games without return games and we can have a third revenue sport while you have nothing. I don't think it's a coincidence that the B1G has recently started hockey and lacrosse leagues. They see the writing on the wall. All college baseball does is transfer money directly from northern schools to southern schools. The bigger the sport grows, the worse it's going to get. To combat that, they have to make hockey their third revenue sport and hope lacrosse can undermine baseball.

I do like the idea of moving soccer to spring. I like soccer better than lacrosse and baseball, but I can't be bothered to follow it during football season because I know I don't have time to go to those games too. I would also like to see soccer expanded to 11 scholarships so you can at least cover your starting lineup, whereas football gives scholarships to 4th string players. I think one of the problems though is that soccer is the only other team sport available in the fall for schools that can't afford football. The only other fall men's sport at all is cross country, and you're required to have at least one sport for each gender in each season. If having Homecoming at a soccer game because you don't have a football team seems lame, imagine having it at a cross country meet.
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RE: Should The MAC Stop Requiring Baseball At Every School?
I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand I would love more MAC schools to invest in Hockey so that we can get to 6 MAC hockey schools (minimum for an college hockey tourney auto bid) and dropping baseball & softball would be one way to help do this. I think the MAC could excel in Hockey. However, I also like baseball and softball despite all the disadvantages northern teams face.
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