Why would we be dogs against HU at home?

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As it currently stands:
Play in games: #7 Delaware vs. #10 Charleston
#8 Towson vs. #9 Elon

#1UNC-W vs. (#8 Towson vs. #9 Elon)
#4 JMU vs. #5 Hofstra
#3 W&M vs. #6 Drexel
#2 Northeastern vs (#7 Delware vs. #10 Charleston)

Unless W&M, UNCW, or NE totally collapse down the stretch and JMU wins out (unlikely), the Dukes will fall to the fourth seed b/c of their dreadful performances agains the Top 3 in the conference this season.
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a lot would have to go right or wrong for us to move from the 4/5 game.

We are two games ahead of Drexel and hold the tie breaker, so essentially 3 games. they would need to win out and us to lose out for them to jump us, so we wont be sixth.

Drexel has @ NE, Del, @W&M
We have CofC, @UNCW, Hofstra
UNCW @del, @Towson, JMU, @ elon
NE Drexel, @Elon, @ cofc
W&M @Hofstra, towson, Drexel

although tied with W&M and NE, and 1/2 game behind UNCW, we lose all tiebreakers. if we go 2-1, we would need three of them to go 1-2, which is doubtful. If we go 3-0, we would finish 1st if no one else wins out. problem is that the only game amongst the top four remaining is ours against UNCW.

(02-19-2015 01:24 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  Why would we be dogs against HU at home?

According to the analytics of Massey, Kenpom, yes. Probably a 1.5-3 favorite in Vegas.

(02-19-2015 01:14 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:09 PM)jmuwyhamhgawd Wrote:  Surprised you guys seem to think we can't do any better than the 4 seed. I know we're behind on tiebreakers, but Realtimerpi currently projects us to finish tied for first with W&M at 12-6, even with losing to UNCW. Flip that game or have William & Mary drop one of their projected wins, and we're alone in first. We've got the longest odds of the four in contention, but it's really not that crazy.

It's highly unlikely we win out (we'll be dogs against both UNC-W and Hofstra) and even if we do, we would lose the tie breaker against everyone. Northeastern also has a cream puff schedule for their final three. I got us winning the regular season title at around 5-10%.
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Our only hope to finish anything but 4th is one of W&M, NE and UNC-W going into the toilet down the stretch (meaning 0-3 or 1-2).

Wow, you just ooooze negativity.

I don't really care about favorite/dog in these CAA games. I think we could win against anyone in the CAA. There is not a clear-cut favorite in this league as indicated by the standings and results.

And JMU beat Hofstra by 6 on the road but would be a dog at home, that is interesting, but whatever.

And you rip JMU for beating team we should beat based but that is something the supposed favorites in the league cannot do:
- W&M (2 losses to UD, loss to Elon, loss to CoC)
- NE (lost to UD and Drexel)
- UNCW (lost to Drexel and Hofstra)

I agree the CAA is not what it was several years ago, but you play your schedule and the teams in your league. You do not have to apologize for wins, especially in a 1 bid league. JMU is playing as a good a basketball as any team in the CAA right now. The tournament will be wide open with 5 or 6 teams having a legit shot to win the thing.

Just don't get all the negativity.

(02-19-2015 01:35 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:14 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:09 PM)jmuwyhamhgawd Wrote:  Surprised you guys seem to think we can't do any better than the 4 seed. I know we're behind on tiebreakers, but Realtimerpi currently projects us to finish tied for first with W&M at 12-6, even with losing to UNCW. Flip that game or have William & Mary drop one of their projected wins, and we're alone in first. We've got the longest odds of the four in contention, but it's really not that crazy.

It's highly unlikely we win out (we'll be dogs against both UNC-W and Hofstra) and even if we do, we would lose the tie breaker against everyone. Northeastern also has a cream puff schedule for their final three. I got us winning the regular season title at around 5-10%.
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Our only hope to finish anything but 4th is one of W&M, NE and UNC-W going into the toilet down the stretch (meaning 0-3 or 1-2).

Wow, you just ooooze negativity.

I don't really care about favorite/dog in these CAA games. I think we could win against anyone in the CAA. There is not a clear-cut favorite in this league as indicated by the standings and results.

And JMU beat Hofstra by 6 on the road but would be a dog at home, that is interesting, but whatever.

And you rip JMU for beating team we should beat based but that is something the supposed favorites in the league cannot do:
- W&M (2 losses to UD, loss to Elon, loss to CoC)
- NE (lost to UD and Drexel)
- UNCW (lost to Drexel and Hofstra)

I agree the CAA is not what it was several years ago, but you play your schedule and the teams in your league. You do not have to apologize for wins, especially in a 1 bid league. JMU is playing as a good a basketball as any team in the CAA right now. The tournament will be wide open with 5 or 6 teams having a legit shot to win the thing.

Just don't get all the negativity.

Thanks, I was thinking the same. With that thinking, why even bother to go or even watch the final three games or the tourney.

id be highly disappointed if we parted ways with brady after this season, save for any APR reasons. He has really made great strides despite a lot of adversity throughout the season.

(02-19-2015 01:45 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  id be highly disappointed if we parted ways with brady after this season, save for any APR reasons. He has really made great strides despite a lot of adversity throughout the season.

I with you, in addition, for the first time, I can see the possibility of three winning seasons back-to-back and all should be 20 win seasons. We need to stop losing to the Norfolk States and Hampton's of CBB, and get rid of the embarrassing 25+ point losses to teams not in the top 50. We played UVA better than W&M. After such games, it becomes hard to stay engaged in the remainder of the season.

(02-19-2015 10:34 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I attended last night's game with PGJMU. I don't think that Drexel sucks, first of all. In person, and I was in the third row or so, they've got a big, physical team with some shooters in Lee, Mojica, Wilson and London. After getting demolished by JMU back in Philly, they strung something like six wins together. They're no pushover and I believe they're one of six teams that can win the whole tournament in Baltimore.

JMU was seemingly always in control last night and stretched it out to double digits late. Drexel, however, made an incredible late push to make it close. Not sure I've ever seen a team hit that many threes that quickly on usually only one attempt down court. Dukes weathered the storm and came out with a win, of course.

Joey McLean played a nice game, but came up lame late in the game. His leaving coincided, it seemed, with Drexel's late comeback. Hopefully, it was just cramps. He was the guy guarding Lee in the box and one defense in the second half.

Tom Vodonavich has really improved in season. He went from being a non-factor to being a key guy. He played a real nice game last night.

And of course, this team would be nowhere without one Ron Curry. He's clearly the team leader at this point.

Disappointing performances by Satkus and Kent. Hopefully, Kent can get his mojo back, as he's shown he can be an offensive force at times.

This team has virtually no depth in the backcourt. Team cannot sustain an injury there and compete going down the stretch.

In watching the game, it didn't seem that JMU lit it up in the second half (as it actually did), as everything is usually pretty difficult against the Dragons. They knock you around pretty good on every possession.

JMU has put together some real nice shooting lines in quite a few games this year....that shows the value of ball and player movement and shot selection, of course.

To get to the next level, JMU needs an impact front court player and some help in the backcourt. Hall can help with some of that if he is to return this season, but most of that help won't arrive until next season.

Nice summary...but you forgot to credit the Serb. Without him (12 points in 11 minutes, 3 rbs, and changed the momentum of the game with his timely 3 and D under the basket) JMU doesn't win the game.

(02-19-2015 01:45 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  id be highly disappointed if we parted ways with brady after this season, save for any APR reasons. He has really made great strides despite a lot of adversity throughout the season.

It really is a roller coaster with Brady & my thoughts on our MBB coaching future. I remember having the conversation with FOATI that the worst thing we could do is leave him as a lame duck. Rose did just that & Brady's teams have been "solidly" mediocre since then.

I know there are many reasons to boot him (APR chief among them). As much as I want to hold JMU to a higher standard, it's hard to ignore the BB wasteland we experience before Brady. If we have a home run hire lined up, fire away. If we don't (and we all know we don't), it probably makes sense to keep him.

(02-19-2015 01:53 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:45 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  id be highly disappointed if we parted ways with brady after this season, save for any APR reasons. He has really made great strides despite a lot of adversity throughout the season.

It really is a roller coaster with Brady & my thoughts on our MBB coaching future. I remember having the conversation with FOATI that the worst thing we could do is leave him as a lame duck. Rose did just that & Brady's teams have been "solidly" mediocre since then.

I know there are many reasons to boot him (APR chief among them). As much as I want to hold JMU to a higher standard, it's hard to ignore the BB wasteland we experience before Brady. If we have a home run hire lined up, fire away. If we don't (and we all know we don't), it probably makes sense to keep him.

Unless we flame out from here on, I think he has done enough for a 2 yr extension WITH a light buyout. If he wins big next year, THEN you go for the 4 yr extension AND raise with high buyout.

(02-19-2015 01:35 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:14 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:09 PM)jmuwyhamhgawd Wrote:  Surprised you guys seem to think we can't do any better than the 4 seed. I know we're behind on tiebreakers, but Realtimerpi currently projects us to finish tied for first with W&M at 12-6, even with losing to UNCW. Flip that game or have William & Mary drop one of their projected wins, and we're alone in first. We've got the longest odds of the four in contention, but it's really not that crazy.

It's highly unlikely we win out (we'll be dogs against both UNC-W and Hofstra) and even if we do, we would lose the tie breaker against everyone. Northeastern also has a cream puff schedule for their final three. I got us winning the regular season title at around 5-10%.
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Our only hope to finish anything but 4th is one of W&M, NE and UNC-W going into the toilet down the stretch (meaning 0-3 or 1-2).

Wow, you just ooooze negativity.

I don't really care about favorite/dog in these CAA games. I think we could win against anyone in the CAA. There is not a clear-cut favorite in this league as indicated by the standings and results.

And JMU beat Hofstra by 6 on the road but would be a dog at home, that is interesting, but whatever.

And you rip JMU for beating team we should beat based but that is something the supposed favorites in the league cannot do:
- W&M (2 losses to UD, loss to Elon, loss to CoC)
- NE (lost to UD and Drexel)
- UNCW (lost to Drexel and Hofstra)

I agree the CAA is not what it was several years ago, but you play your schedule and the teams in your league. You do not have to apologize for wins, especially in a 1 bid league. JMU is playing as a good a basketball as any team in the CAA right now. The tournament will be wide open with 5 or 6 teams having a legit shot to win the thing.

Just don't get all the negativity.

Woah, calm down partner. I was laying out the ground work of what the stats say, almost all of which say JMU is 4th or 5th best in the CAA. JMU has far surpassed my expectations this season already and I will be in Baltimore for the tournament (albiet Royal Farms Arena is only a twenty minute walk from where I live).

I do believe that we could beat anyone in the CAA as well, unfortunately our games agains the top 3 have been disheartening at best. In order to not be in the 4/5 game we likely need to win out (with two very tough games ahead) and have one (if not two) of the Top 3 in the league go 1-2, all of whom have nothing but tasty cupcakes ahead.

Anything can happen, no doubt, but I'm not going to gorge myself on the purple kool-aid after four consecutive wins against mostly terrible teams.

(02-19-2015 01:53 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 10:34 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I attended last night's game with PGJMU. I don't think that Drexel sucks, first of all. In person, and I was in the third row or so, they've got a big, physical team with some shooters in Lee, Mojica, Wilson and London. After getting demolished by JMU back in Philly, they strung something like six wins together. They're no pushover and I believe they're one of six teams that can win the whole tournament in Baltimore.

JMU was seemingly always in control last night and stretched it out to double digits late. Drexel, however, made an incredible late push to make it close. Not sure I've ever seen a team hit that many threes that quickly on usually only one attempt down court. Dukes weathered the storm and came out with a win, of course.

Joey McLean played a nice game, but came up lame late in the game. His leaving coincided, it seemed, with Drexel's late comeback. Hopefully, it was just cramps. He was the guy guarding Lee in the box and one defense in the second half.

Tom Vodonavich has really improved in season. He went from being a non-factor to being a key guy. He played a real nice game last night.

And of course, this team would be nowhere without one Ron Curry. He's clearly the team leader at this point.

Disappointing performances by Satkus and Kent. Hopefully, Kent can get his mojo back, as he's shown he can be an offensive force at times.

This team has virtually no depth in the backcourt. Team cannot sustain an injury there and compete going down the stretch.

In watching the game, it didn't seem that JMU lit it up in the second half (as it actually did), as everything is usually pretty difficult against the Dragons. They knock you around pretty good on every possession.

JMU has put together some real nice shooting lines in quite a few games this year....that shows the value of ball and player movement and shot selection, of course.

To get to the next level, JMU needs an impact front court player and some help in the backcourt. Hall can help with some of that if he is to return this season, but most of that help won't arrive until next season.

Nice summary...but you forgot to credit the Serb. Without him (12 points in 11 minutes, 3 rbs, and changed the momentum of the game with his timely 3 and D under the basket) JMU doesn't win the game.

Longhorn, you are correct. I annotated my write-up later with mention of Cabarkapa, saying that JMU would not have won without him. He's been a real boost of late, together with McLean. And of course, Grays has been giving max effort off the bench, helping out wherever needed. Brady is always sure to mention him, rightfully so.

(02-19-2015 02:33 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:53 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 10:34 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I attended last night's game with PGJMU. I don't think that Drexel sucks, first of all. In person, and I was in the third row or so, they've got a big, physical team with some shooters in Lee, Mojica, Wilson and London. After getting demolished by JMU back in Philly, they strung something like six wins together. They're no pushover and I believe they're one of six teams that can win the whole tournament in Baltimore.

JMU was seemingly always in control last night and stretched it out to double digits late. Drexel, however, made an incredible late push to make it close. Not sure I've ever seen a team hit that many threes that quickly on usually only one attempt down court. Dukes weathered the storm and came out with a win, of course.

Joey McLean played a nice game, but came up lame late in the game. His leaving coincided, it seemed, with Drexel's late comeback. Hopefully, it was just cramps. He was the guy guarding Lee in the box and one defense in the second half.

Tom Vodonavich has really improved in season. He went from being a non-factor to being a key guy. He played a real nice game last night.

And of course, this team would be nowhere without one Ron Curry. He's clearly the team leader at this point.

Disappointing performances by Satkus and Kent. Hopefully, Kent can get his mojo back, as he's shown he can be an offensive force at times.

This team has virtually no depth in the backcourt. Team cannot sustain an injury there and compete going down the stretch.

In watching the game, it didn't seem that JMU lit it up in the second half (as it actually did), as everything is usually pretty difficult against the Dragons. They knock you around pretty good on every possession.

JMU has put together some real nice shooting lines in quite a few games this year....that shows the value of ball and player movement and shot selection, of course.

To get to the next level, JMU needs an impact front court player and some help in the backcourt. Hall can help with some of that if he is to return this season, but most of that help won't arrive until next season.

Nice summary...but you forgot to credit the Serb. Without him (12 points in 11 minutes, 3 rbs, and changed the momentum of the game with his timely 3 and D under the basket) JMU doesn't win the game.

Longhorn, you are correct. I annotated my write-up later with mention of Cabarkapa, saying that JMU would not have won without him. He's been a real boost of late, together with McLean. And of course, Grays has been giving max effort off the bench, helping out wherever needed. Brady is always sure to mention him, rightfully so.

I have yet to hear MB ever put a player down or push responsibility of a loss over to a player. Certainly he'll point out where there were breakdowns or things that need to be worked on, but he rarely takes a defensive posture and makes the interviewer feel that he is being attacked.

(02-19-2015 01:45 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  id be highly disappointed if we parted ways with brady after this season, save for any APR reasons. He has really made great strides despite a lot of adversity throughout the season.

I am not a Brady basher/hater or anything like that, but I have to wonder how much of the "adversity" is his responsibility. Even if you throw out the "lame-duck" year you have a very inconsistent tenure. I will admit that his team is improving, and his team from the NCAA year made similar progress.

thanks for the free nuggets, Dukes!

Nation definitely in the house last night. I imagine it's tough on him watching the team be successful as of late. Still and always wish him the best!

(02-19-2015 02:59 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:45 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  id be highly disappointed if we parted ways with brady after this season, save for any APR reasons. He has really made great strides despite a lot of adversity throughout the season.

I am not a Brady basher/hater or anything like that, but I have to wonder how much of the "adversity" is his responsibility. Even if you throw out the "lame-duck" year you have a very inconsistent tenure. I will admit that his team is improving, and his team from the NCAA year made similar progress.

Yeah, this is why I feel like it's a roller coaster. I truly do see both sides of it. I honestly think it'd be best to let him go if it weren't for a complete lack of faith that we can land an improvement.

You guys are sniffing at the regular season title and are playing well. These road wins are very good wins even if its against the lower half of the league, they are 50/50 type games nevertheless when on the road. Mclean healthy and finding his shot is adding a level of athlete that makes you guys tougher to guard and more disruptive defensively. You have a decent shot at 12-6 record in conference, and the CAA overall is rated better than it was the year you guys went to the NCAA (19th in kenpoms in 2013, 18th this year) and were 11-7 in 2013.

The coaching job being done this year is probably Brady's best. If they avoid injury there is reason to believe they will be much better next year and be one, if not THE favorite in the league.

Half of the board is ready to fire brady, the other half is indifferent with a few on the bandwagon. Seems like to me this is getting interesting.

Interesting fact about the basketball program: With the win against Drexel, the Dukes have clinched their 30th winning season in program history.

SOURCE: https://twitter.com/JMUMBasketball/statu...2028062720

(02-19-2015 03:58 PM)UofRfan Wrote:  You guys are sniffing at the regular season title and are playing well. These road wins are very good wins even if its against the lower half of the league, they are 50/50 type games nevertheless when on the road. Mclean healthy and finding his shot is adding a level of athlete that makes you guys tougher to guard and more disruptive defensively. You have a decent shot at 12-6 record in conference, and the CAA overall is rated better than it was the year you guys went to the NCAA (19th in kenpoms in 2013, 18th this year) and were 11-7 in 2013.

The coaching job being done this year is probably Brady's best. If they avoid injury there is reason to believe they will be much better next year and be one, if not THE favorite in the league.

Half of the board is ready to fire brady, the other half is indifferent with a few on the bandwagon. Seems like to me this is getting interesting.

I wish you would just change your user name to "Root'n fer some Dukes" and stop saying "you guys"...

(02-19-2015 01:14 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:09 PM)jmuwyhamhgawd Wrote:  Surprised you guys seem to think we can't do any better than the 4 seed. I know we're behind on tiebreakers, but Realtimerpi currently projects us to finish tied for first with W&M at 12-6, even with losing to UNCW. Flip that game or have William & Mary drop one of their projected wins, and we're alone in first. We've got the longest odds of the four in contention, but it's really not that crazy.

It's highly unlikely we win out (we'll be dogs against both UNC-W and Hofstra) and even if we do, we would lose the tie breaker against everyone. Northeastern also has a cream puff schedule for their final three. I got us winning the regular season title at around 5-10%.
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Our only hope to finish anything but 4th is one of W&M, NE and UNC-W going into the toilet down the stretch (meaning 0-3 or 1-2).

You do realize that we won at Hofstra earlier this year right? We're playing better now and they are playing worse and it would be the last game of the year. You think if it lined up where the Dukes were winners of 5 straight or even 4 of 5 played Hofstra to end the regular season at Home maybe with a #1 seed and 20 wins at stake that we wouldn't be favored?