(02-16-2015 09:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  A person walks into a bank robs it and maybe gets $5,000 when they're caught they'll do 20 years in maximum security for their crime. A hacker steals financial data that allows them to get $50,000. IF they are every caught they'll likely do less than 5 years in minimum security, for those inclined to steal which do you think they'll put their efforts toward?

wait until they tap into your 401k and roth.....

the lack of gold standard can only exist so long moving forward....

They cloned one of my credit cards and got $10k of gift cards from Walmart (a common use of stolen cards). I paid nothing but the thief got $10k and will Never get caught for that one.

Herd,

You are exactly correct. I buddy of mine locally is with the FBI. The average get away was $5300 according to him.

Fist,

I had the same thing happen to me in Orlando two years ago. Inside job from a restaurant or the hotel. In a two day time, someone was a cloned card in Puerto Rico at a WalMart. Unreal!

(02-25-2015 01:11 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I understand the branches req'd regarding combat on the water, air, and dirt....what I don't get is why branching out relative to this topic would be necessary.....the only net gain I envision is that of wasteful ineffectiveness......

it makes sense now.....we are discussing glubberment policy

You're right, but every branch operates more independently than they would like the general population to become aware of. The Army and the Navy could get together but neither trust the Air Force with is constantly trying to justify its own existence.

(02-25-2015 01:15 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  A person walks into a bank robs it and maybe gets $5,000 when they're caught they'll do 20 years in maximum security for their crime. A hacker steals financial data that allows them to get $50,000. IF they are every caught they'll likely do less than 5 years in minimum security, for those inclined to steal which do you think they'll put their efforts toward?

wait until they tap into your 401k and roth.....

the lack of gold standard can only exist so long moving forward....

They cloned one of my credit cards and got $10k of gift cards from Walmart (a common use of stolen cards). I paid nothing but the thief got $10k and will Never get caught for that one.

Herd,

You are exactly correct. I buddy of mine locally is with the FBI. The average get away was $5300 according to him.

Fist,

I had the same thing happen to me in Orlando two years ago. Inside job from a restaurant or the hotel. In a two day time, someone was a cloned card in Puerto Rico at a WalMart. Unreal!

How do you guys know they'll never be caught? These sorts of crimes seem very easy to track.

(02-25-2015 01:17 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(02-25-2015 01:11 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I understand the branches req'd regarding combat on the water, air, and dirt....what I don't get is why branching out relative to this topic would be necessary.....the only net gain I envision is that of wasteful ineffectiveness......

it makes sense now.....we are discussing glubberment policy

You're right, but every branch operates more independently than they would like the general population to become aware of. The Army and the Navy could get together but neither trust the Air Force with is constantly trying to justify its own existence.

internal strife.....gotta love it, eh?

I doesn't have to be that way.....that's why the prez is the 'commander'...

oops, never mind

(02-25-2015 05:06 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(02-25-2015 01:15 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  A person walks into a bank robs it and maybe gets $5,000 when they're caught they'll do 20 years in maximum security for their crime. A hacker steals financial data that allows them to get $50,000. IF they are every caught they'll likely do less than 5 years in minimum security, for those inclined to steal which do you think they'll put their efforts toward?

wait until they tap into your 401k and roth.....

the lack of gold standard can only exist so long moving forward....

They cloned one of my credit cards and got $10k of gift cards from Walmart (a common use of stolen cards). I paid nothing but the thief got $10k and will Never get caught for that one.

Herd,

You are exactly correct. I buddy of mine locally is with the FBI. The average get away was $5300 according to him.

Fist,

I had the same thing happen to me in Orlando two years ago. Inside job from a restaurant or the hotel. In a two day time, someone was a cloned card in Puerto Rico at a WalMart. Unreal!

How do you guys know they'll never be caught? These sorts of crimes seem very easy to track.

Actually they are not, the individuals that do this use the cards once then trash them. They typically have 50 or more cloned cards provided by a central source (card data collected using skimmers) the individuals fill a backpack with all the prepaid cards less their cut and return the central source. The central source then ships the cards all over the country or even out of the country. I attend cyber security conferences twice a year and I always hear the number of people caught v. number doing this is very small.

(02-25-2015 06:05 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(02-25-2015 05:06 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(02-25-2015 01:15 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  wait until they tap into your 401k and roth.....

the lack of gold standard can only exist so long moving forward....

They cloned one of my credit cards and got $10k of gift cards from Walmart (a common use of stolen cards). I paid nothing but the thief got $10k and will Never get caught for that one.

Herd,

You are exactly correct. I buddy of mine locally is with the FBI. The average get away was $5300 according to him.

Fist,

I had the same thing happen to me in Orlando two years ago. Inside job from a restaurant or the hotel. In a two day time, someone was a cloned card in Puerto Rico at a WalMart. Unreal!

How do you guys know they'll never be caught? These sorts of crimes seem very easy to track.

Actually they are not, the individuals that do this use the cards once then trash them. They typically have 50 or more cloned cards provided by a central source (card data collected using skimmers) the individuals fill a backpack with all the prepaid cards less their cut and return the central source. The central source then ships the cards all over the country or even out of the country. I attend cyber security conferences twice a year and I always hear the number of people caught v. number doing this is very small.

somebody understands why this is only the beginning.....