(02-17-2015 11:40 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 08:43 AM)monarchman Wrote:  Money. You spend the money for a coach that can make you immediately relevant and you'll receive the rewards. Men's basketball is one of the best investments a school can make. SMU is just using their resources wisely.

don't forget....they hired junie and doh too....

unlimited resources are pretty cool....money at smwhoo has really never been a problem (lmao)

totally agree with boosting the hoops infrastructure.....

I'm actually surprised more cusa schools aren't realizing this.....

I already know I'm going to miss football moving forward.....however, hoops can be salvaged with that money.....

say what you want about the June Jones hiring, but SMU had not been to a bowl game for 25 years before he was hired and in the 7 seasons he was there he took them to 4 bowl games and was 3-1 in those games with th only loss by 2 points to Army in The Armed Forces Bowl

with the exception of Marshall and Rice no other program in the CUSA has come close to that record and with the exception of Marshall, Rice, USM and LaTech pretty much every program in CUSA would kill for and gladly pay $2,000,000 per season to have that record

here is the CUSA bowls over the last 7 years and or in history

UAB 0-1 (in history)
FAU 2-0 (in history)
FIU 1-1 (in history)
Marshall 4-0 (last 7 years)
MT 1-3 (in history)
ODU 0-0
WKU 1-1 (in history and last 7 years)

LaTech 2-1 (last 7 years)
north Texas state 1-0 (last 7 years) 2-5 (history)
Rice 3-1 (last 7 years)
USM 2-2 (last 7 years)
UTEP 0-2 (last 7 years)
UTSA 0-0

so June Jones at SMU had more bowl wins in his seven seasons than eight of the programs in CUSA have had in their history and more bowl wins in the last 7 seasons than all but two programs Marshall and Rice and he is tied with Rice

so while his last two seasons (the last one especially) were not great SMU should have supported him better after the first couple of seasons and really he should not have let things get as bad as they did.......but those 7 years still far surpassed anything that most CUSA programs have put together in a 7 year span especially recently

(02-17-2015 10:20 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 10:11 AM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  And they sell beer at the arena. #Genius

We started selling beer at our sporting events a couple of years ago. It didn't seem to help ticket sales however.

Perhaps because they are selling them at $9 a beer.

UTEP leads CUSA in hoops and football attendance. You make it sound like we have bad attendance. Shocker.

(02-17-2015 04:59 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 11:40 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 08:43 AM)monarchman Wrote:  Money. You spend the money for a coach that can make you immediately relevant and you'll receive the rewards. Men's basketball is one of the best investments a school can make. SMU is just using their resources wisely.

don't forget....they hired junie and doh too....

unlimited resources are pretty cool....money at smwhoo has really never been a problem (lmao)

totally agree with boosting the hoops infrastructure.....

I'm actually surprised more cusa schools aren't realizing this.....

I already know I'm going to miss football moving forward.....however, hoops can be salvaged with that money.....

say what you want about the June Jones hiring, but SMU had not been to a bowl game for 25 years before he was hired and in the 7 seasons he was there he took them to 4 bowl games and was 3-1 in those games with th only loss by 2 points to Army in The Armed Forces Bowl

with the exception of Marshall and Rice no other program in the CUSA has come close to that record and with the exception of Marshall, Rice, USM and LaTech pretty much every program in CUSA would kill for and gladly pay $2,000,000 per season to have that record

here is the CUSA bowls over the last 7 years and or in history

UAB 0-1 (in history)
FAU 2-0 (in history)
FIU 1-1 (in history)
Marshall 4-0 (last 7 years)
MT 1-3 (in history)
ODU 0-0
WKU 1-1 (in history and last 7 years)

LaTech 2-1 (last 7 years)
north Texas state 1-0 (last 7 years) 2-5 (history)
Rice 3-1 (last 7 years)
USM 2-2 (last 7 years)
UTEP 0-2 (last 7 years)
UTSA 0-0

so June Jones at SMU had more bowl wins in his seven seasons than eight of the programs in CUSA have had in their history and more bowl wins in the last 7 seasons than all but two programs Marshall and Rice and he is tied with Rice

so while his last two seasons (the last one especially) were not great SMU should have supported him better after the first couple of seasons and really he should not have let things get as bad as they did.......but those 7 years still far surpassed anything that most CUSA programs have put together in a 7 year span especially recently

you whiffed the premise of the post.....let me rephrase.....

I know you guys have money....

I know you guys can hire who you want....

I have acknowledged why that matters.....

the 25 years was b/c of why?

I don't care about smwhoo....

it's no different than lswhoo in my world.....

your stats mean zero to me at this point (since greener pastures are on the horizon in football)

my shite isn't that complicated.....but apparently it is to some.....

(02-17-2015 04:59 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  he is tied with Rice

I guess that means Rice is getting more bang for their bucks.

(02-17-2015 05:24 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 04:59 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  he is tied with Rice

I guess that means Rice is getting more bang for their bucks.

as is Marshall, but that is only 2 out of 14 programs and June Jones was not near the complete disaster many want to make him out to be

he was the anti-Mack Brown......he could develop the talent that he could recruit, but he could not recruit talent to take it beyond where he had reached and like Mack Brown he grew disconnected and eventually burned out

and it will probably be easier for SMU to bounce back than it was for Texas because they have a lot of well coached players even if they are not top talent and those players just need a coach that is fully engaged and if that coach can get back to 5 wins or more next year the perception will be that he brought SMU back from the dead when the reality is he just reinvigorated and got back to coaching players that were capable of performing with motivated coaches instead of burned out coaches

if Morris can even get close to respectable next season and recruit at a level better then June Jones SMU can build on that quickly

(02-15-2015 08:53 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  A few things here:

1) We dramatically stepped up investment in the sport. Moody Coliseum was transformed from an outdated arena on its last legs to a state of the art sports facility.

2) We got lucky by being able to land Larry Brown.

3) We landed the right combination of transfer athletes from other institutions. That allowed us to accelerate the rebuild.

4) We won a few marquee games and celebrities started showing up, upping the "cool factor"

Really, it's nothing that any CUSA school can't do. It all starts with investment in the program and making the right hire.

I agree with this. I've lived in the Dallas area for over 30 years, and once lived on University Blvd about 1,000 yards from the SMU campus. I've always said that SMU has all the POTENTIAL in the world. Great market, good academics, lots of money,,,,,, in fact, I find it truly remarkable that they have struggled as much as they have. Hiring Larry Brown was the difference this time around. Congrats to SMU!

SMU has more money than most in CUSA but it really isn't about the money. Their AD successfuly planned and executed a good strategy pertaining to their basketball program. Larry Brown is a fantastic coach but he is also a wanderer. He will stay another couple of years and then move on. What they do to replace him will be the big trick. I aplaud SMU for making the effort to be a basketball school. As for June Jones, well he got the Mustangs out of Purgatory and gave them just enough success to make them viable again. There were consequences to his hiring but that can be expected. I expect Coach Morris to do a great job and compete in the AAC the next couple of years. I also wish they would agree to a home and home with us again too.

(02-18-2015 09:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  SMU has more money than most in CUSA but it really isn't about the money. Their AD successfuly planned and executed a good strategy pertaining to their basketball program. Larry Brown is a fantastic coach but he is also a wanderer. He will stay another couple of years and then move on. What they do to replace him will be the big trick. I aplaud SMU for making the effort to be a basketball school. As for June Jones, well he got the Mustangs out of Purgatory and gave them just enough success to make them viable again. There were consequences to his hiring but that can be expected. I expect Coach Morris to do a great job and compete in the AAC the next couple of years. I also wish they would agree to a home and home with us again too.

Tim Jankovich

Doak Walker decided to intervene because he couldn't take watching horrible SMU sports from Heaven anymore.