(02-15-2015 05:14 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 05:04 PM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 12:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 11:40 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

I see the 3 military academies being regulars in the Access Bowl....

.....on my assumption that 98 to 100% of G5 do NOT get called up to P5.

.....P5 does NOT break away.

.....in order to keep athletic departments financially solvent, G5 all drops to fcs. They do this to lessen the amount of (now pricier) scholarships. Yet all fcs will play an 8 to 16 team tournament to determine who gets into Access Bowl.....10 champs from the 10 strongest conferences for a given season + 6 at-larges per the Playoff Committee.

.....the playoff money the G5 is allotted currently will go to this 16-team Access Bowl Play-in.....split equally between rounds, and each rounds' cut split equally between the 16, 8, 4 and 2 teams (their conferences) in each round....Access Bowl revenue itself will remain as is currently ($6million total to team and their conference who plays in Access Bowl).

.....the remaining top fcs teams for that season will fill spots for whatever minor bowls are still alive....as 15 of the 16 fcs Access Bowl Play-in Tournament drop out, they will mostly fill the leftover minor bowls.

.....with the remaining .500+ fcs teams and conference champions playing the traditional fcs "tournament" (no longer a "championship", more like an NIT for D1 football as a reward for the players of teams who played well per given season....this will be a 24 to 32 team tournament with a little money per team per game from the NCAA to pay for travel.

.....all non-P5 D1 schools agree to go through a massive conference realignment to reconfigure more geographically as well as form into stronger basketball conferences. NCAA Basketball Tournament credits follow the teams.....this will also lessen travel expenses for all non-P5.

.....The strongest (newly configured) non-P5 conferences in football and basketball will get similar tv contracts as G5 gets currently.

Not sure how non-P5 eastern, southern and Texas/southwest conferences would shake out in this massive non-P5 realignment/reconfiguration, but I'm sure the SWC would resurrect.

I see Fresno State and other Cali/Nevada teams heading for the BigWest with (*) denoting football members.

*Hawaii
*San Jose St
*UC Davis
*Sacramento St
*Nevada
*UNLV
*Fresno St
*Cal Poly
*San Diego St
CS-Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS-Northridge
Long Beach St
UC Riverside
UC Irvine
CS-Fullerton

That's 16 for a strong basketball, baseball and fcs football conference....but I can also see BYU convincing WCC to grab UNLV, SanDiego St, Boise, Wyo, Colo St, AirForce and New Mexico, with USD leaving Pioneer League football and joining as 9th WCC football member.....leaving Fresno State in a decent 7-team fcs conference + 7 non-football members.

This is not what I hope for, but it is a "worst case" scenario I could be somewhat happy about and get used to real quicklike.

....and this scenario makes the 3 military academies almost regulars into the a Access Bowl Play-in Tournament almost every post season.

sounds like Hawaii is really struggling financially. They need to be in all pacific time zone conference for football like what they have going for Olympic sports in the Big West. Your idea would be great for them. Its odd, Hawaii seemed to thrive in the old WAC (pre-Karl Benson and his adding of 100 schools to the league) I remember Hawaii beating Iowa in the Hayden Fry, Chuck long era and it wasn't that huge of a deal. I wonder why the WAC pre 1996 had so many schools like Hawaii doing well, and they are now half the programs they used to be. Besides Hawaii, other good WAC football programs like Wyoming, Air Force and San Diego St aren't nearly as successful, and respected like they were in the old WAC days...seems like they never recovered from that 16 school idea/disaster in the late 90's

Cost of going to higher education for ANYBODY has skyrocketed since then. Hence the cost of athletic scholarships.....which are about to skyrocket even more exponentially if you want to maintain somewhat competitive FBS level football.

Cost of travel also higher rate of inflation than average CPI.....which, on top of travel subs Hawaii has to pay their conferences.....

Ticket prices to attend games....you name it.....this college football world with big tv contracts for a minority is way different than pre-WAC-16 NCAA football days.

Honestly it's just not feasible for Hawai'i to be in a conference with the nearest member two time zones away. The MWC would be better off with Idaho, and yes i'm aware of the difficulties surrounding even that team.

the MWC would probably be better off without Hawaii or Idaho...i look back and wonder if the old WAC would be better off if they stayed the same instead of expanding with all those extra schools? Or would what the Fresno fan said be what happened to them anyway? (rising costs) its interesting

(02-15-2015 12:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  sounds like Hawaii is really struggling financially. They need to be in all pacific time zone conference for football like what they have going for Olympic sports in the Big West. Your idea would be great for them. Its odd, Hawaii seemed to thrive in the old WAC (pre-Karl Benson and his adding of 100 schools to the league) I remember Hawaii beating Iowa in the Hayden Fry, Chuck long era and it wasn't that huge of a deal. I wonder why the WAC pre 1996 had so many schools like Hawaii doing well, and they are now half the programs they used to be. Besides Hawaii, other good WAC football programs like Wyoming, Air Force and San Diego St aren't nearly as successful, and respected like they were in the old WAC days...seems like they never recovered from that 16 school idea/disaster in the late 90's

It's called the BCS + media indoctrination. Its venom has even spilled over to basketball, though programs like Butler, Gonzaga and Memphis to name a few have worked wonders to minimize it there.

And, as you noted, the WAC-16 also played a role. If they didn't over-expand and only added, say UNLV and Tulsa or Rice (Rice had some momentum coming off the SWC and did draw 50,000 sometimes in the late 90's), they'd have probably been an original BCS conference. Instead, many of the teams they added like San Jose St., SMU and TCU (at the time) were complete deadweights in the major sports and fan base.

I just cannot believe the P5 would split totally, UNLESS, they take a punching bag or two with them. The P5 are way too proud and if they split as is, at least one conference is going to become the low man on the totem pole. Is the ACC really going to want to be the new MAC?

I see this Conference with a different "Network Partner" and getting a little respect. The members will be different but the name will be the same.

They already split. It's called autonomy. What else could they possibly want? They have autonomy to run athletics like a business while keeping non profit status. The End

(02-16-2015 12:14 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  I just cannot believe the P5 would split totally, UNLESS, they take a punching bag or two with them. The P5 are way too proud and if they split as is, at least one conference is going to become the low man on the totem pole. Is the ACC really going to want to be the new MAC?

I agree it's unlikely the Cartel 5 splits completely. But if they do, they don't have to take "a punching bag or two with them." They've already got Vandy, Kentucky, Iowa State, Kansas, Texas Tech, Washington State, Cal, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Wake Forest, UNC, and a couple more within their existing Cartel! All of these great universities occasionally compete; but none of them beat the "so-called big boys" with any regularity.

In 2025 Tulsa's going to the Big 12 after its 5th straight American Conference Championship under a HOF Football Coach in Montgomery and a slew of up-and coming basketball coaches.

Book it.

What about where do you see your school in 100 years?

East Carolina University.
It's the year 2115 and the world has been destroyed by global warming. East Carolina University is one of the few universities left in the world. War & famine have torn nation states asunder and now pirates of varying quality and morals control the earth. As part of a desire to preserve higher learning and the knowledge that the pirates require to operate/advance their technology in the face of ecological disaster all universities with pirate and buccaneer mascots have been spared the wrath and depradations of the rapacious pirate syndicates. We win the FBS national championship every year in football however our basketball team still somehow has an RPI bellow 200 despite being one of just a few schools remaining.

UC and Memphis to the Big 12. Marshall and USM to the American.

Temple in the SEC

(02-18-2015 05:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  UC and Memphis to the Big 12. Marshall and USM to the American.

Marshall
#snicker

(02-18-2015 04:56 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  What about where do you see your school in 100 years?

East Carolina University.
It's the year 2115 and the world has been destroyed by global warming. East Carolina University is one of the few universities left in the world. War & famine have torn nation states asunder and now pirates of varying quality and morals control the earth. As part of a desire to preserve higher learning and the knowledge that the pirates require to operate/advance their technology in the face of ecological disaster all universities with pirate and buccaneer mascots have been spared the wrath and depradations of the rapacious pirate syndicates. We win the FBS national championship every year in football however our basketball team still somehow has an RPI bellow 200 despite being one of just a few schools remaining.

Uh, not trying to nit-pick or nothin', but wouldn't ECU be one of the FIRST universities to go underwater??? It'd be like Tulane and then... ECU.

Though that would indeed make ECU's underwater archeology program the top in the world...

Just sayin.

Pepperdine would be OK, though... I hear their baseball stadium OVERLOOKS the Pacific Ocean...

(02-16-2015 10:14 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Tulane will continue their tradition of playing in the highest level possible - and consistently losing.

I think Tulane stays in the AAC for about 12-16 years. We're not really a "jumpy" school. No P5 conference will offer Tulane a spot - and Tulane's campus-wide arrogance will not tolerate being in a "lesser" G5 conference.

If the MW and AAC merge, then Tulane will probably be a part of that - but I think that such a move isn't happening for about 8-10 years.

does anyone else remember Tulane's attempt to get into the WAC in the early 90's? I remember it,and I remember the WAC turning them down and think taking Tulsa and san Jose st...head scratcher

(02-18-2015 05:58 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 04:56 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  What about where do you see your school in 100 years?

East Carolina University.
It's the year 2115 and the world has been destroyed by global warming. East Carolina University is one of the few universities left in the world. War & famine have torn nation states asunder and now pirates of varying quality and morals control the earth. As part of a desire to preserve higher learning and the knowledge that the pirates require to operate/advance their technology in the face of ecological disaster all universities with pirate and buccaneer mascots have been spared the wrath and depradations of the rapacious pirate syndicates. We win the FBS national championship every year in football however our basketball team still somehow has an RPI bellow 200 despite being one of just a few schools remaining.

Uh, not trying to nit-pick or nothin', but wouldn't ECU be one of the FIRST universities to go underwater??? It'd be like Tulane and then... ECU.

Though that would indeed make ECU's underwater archeology program the top in the world...

Just sayin.

Pepperdine would be OK, though... I hear their baseball stadium OVERLOOKS the Pacific Ocean...

The football stadium and parking lots to tailgate are on the high ground and even if the rest of it floods that's all we need to keep ECU operational.

(02-19-2015 09:27 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 10:14 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Tulane will continue their tradition of playing in the highest level possible - and consistently losing.

I think Tulane stays in the AAC for about 12-16 years. We're not really a "jumpy" school. No P5 conference will offer Tulane a spot - and Tulane's campus-wide arrogance will not tolerate being in a "lesser" G5 conference.

If the MW and AAC merge, then Tulane will probably be a part of that - but I think that such a move isn't happening for about 8-10 years.

does anyone else remember Tulane's attempt to get into the WAC in the early 90's? I remember it,and I remember the WAC turning them down and think taking Tulsa and san Jose st...head scratcher

Tulsa isn't a bad pick up for any non-power conference. The weird part is that rejecting Tulane and then taking Tulsa doesn't make sense when the university profiles are somewhat similar.

I cannot say how good or bad SJSU is in terms of being a conference member.

Keep in mind that the WAC had bundles of potential and then fell apart due to poor management.

http://www.chron.com/local/education/cam...089909.php

(02-20-2015 12:03 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  http://www.chron.com/local/education/cam...089909.php

The Board of Regents chairman attempting to strong arm Houston's way into the Big 12 through legislative action sounds desperate. Also sounds like something might be happening.

congrats to that guy for pizzing off the 7 non-texas public schools. the southwest conference is dead and buried and the rest of the big12 has no interest in reviving it.

(02-14-2015 06:50 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 04:09 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  East
Temple
Cincinnati
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Memphis
Navy
West Virginia

West
Iowa State
Kansas State
Baylor
Southern Methodist
Houston
Tulane
Tulsa
Texas Christian

I'm sure those who would be relegated from their current position would disagree, but that actually looks really good to me.

As much as I think Houston deserves to be in that conference, I could see Baylor and TCU being @ssH***** about you & SMU trying to join.

(02-18-2015 04:56 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  What about where do you see your school in 100 years?

East Carolina University.
It's the year 2115 and the world has been destroyed by global warming. East Carolina University is one of the few universities left in the world. War & famine have torn nation states asunder and now pirates of varying quality and morals control the earth. As part of a desire to preserve higher learning and the knowledge that the pirates require to operate/advance their technology in the face of ecological disaster all universities with pirate and buccaneer mascots have been spared the wrath and depradations of the rapacious pirate syndicates. We win the FBS national championship every year in football however our basketball team still somehow has an RPI bellow 200 despite being one of just a few schools remaining.

Zombies will roam the earth too.

In 10 years, Memphis will have been in the SEC for 5 years and 4 National Championships. Fuente will be the best coach in the history of the world. Sabban will be his third assistant. At the same time, Greg Marshall will have won 5 National Championships for us in basketball.

I'm being conservative with my predictions.