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RE: Rivalries based on Mutual Respect
Rivalries take time to build up. Realignment has ended some rivalries, which is always sad to see. But all things are impermanent.

In time, new rivalries will arise to replace those lost. And old rivalries that no longer exist are made for TV OOC events, if the schools involved are smart enough to recognize it.
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(02-13-2015 01:34 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Rivalries take time to build up. Realignment has ended some rivalries, which is always sad to see. But all things are impermanent.

In time, new rivalries will arise to replace those lost. And old rivalries that no longer exist are made for TV OOC events, if the schools involved are smart enough to recognize it.

Yes, many rivalries have fallen to the wayside. We havn't seen the last of that to happen either.

What I have said is to come would help rebuild new rivalries AND solidify some very important current rivalries.

You recognize though how it would be better for a school like WVU to once again lose newly created rivalries if it means a chance to create more new rivalries with schools more geographically pertinent to The Mountaineers.

Folks have a hard time with change but I don't think it will take too long for folks to get on board with what is coming after it actually happens.
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(02-13-2015 08:08 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-13-2015 01:34 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Rivalries take time to build up. Realignment has ended some rivalries, which is always sad to see. But all things are impermanent.

In time, new rivalries will arise to replace those lost. And old rivalries that no longer exist are made for TV OOC events, if the schools involved are smart enough to recognize it.
Yes, many rivalries have fallen to the wayside. We havn't seen the last of that to happen either.

What I have said is to come would help rebuild new rivalries AND solidify some very important current rivalries.

You recognize though how it would be better for a school like WVU to once again lose newly created rivalries if it means a chance to create more new rivalries with schools more geographically pertinent to The Mountaineers.

Folks have a hard time with change but I don't think it will take too long for folks to get on board with what is coming after it actually happens.
No. We have not seen the last rivalry to die with the changes in college football. The only constant truth in the universe is change. It happens, whether you want it to or not.

But many WVU fans are finding the move to the Big XII a plus. WVU athletics are on TV almost every game, more than our old rivals in the ACC. We have high profile home games in football every year. And the Big XII media doesn't use the same tired old stereotypes that eastern media has heaped upon West Virginians for well over a century.

Now if I can just convince president Gee that the Aeroschraft Flying Hotel would be a good investment in advertising, as well as a good way to combine travel, food, and lodging expenses under one umbrella. Imagine this flying around the country with the WV logo. It would be one hell of an advertising campaign that never ends.
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(02-14-2015 12:03 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-13-2015 08:08 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-13-2015 01:34 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Rivalries take time to build up. Realignment has ended some rivalries, which is always sad to see. But all things are impermanent.

In time, new rivalries will arise to replace those lost. And old rivalries that no longer exist are made for TV OOC events, if the schools involved are smart enough to recognize it.
Yes, many rivalries have fallen to the wayside. We havn't seen the last of that to happen either.

What I have said is to come would help rebuild new rivalries AND solidify some very important current rivalries.

You recognize though how it would be better for a school like WVU to once again lose newly created rivalries if it means a chance to create more new rivalries with schools more geographically pertinent to The Mountaineers.

Folks have a hard time with change but I don't think it will take too long for folks to get on board with what is coming after it actually happens.
No. We have not seen the last rivalry to die with the changes in college football. The only constant truth in the universe is change. It happens, whether you want it to or not.

But many WVU fans are finding the move to the Big XII a plus. WVU athletics are on TV almost every game, more than our old rivals in the ACC. We have high profile home games in football every year. And the Big XII media doesn't use the same tired old stereotypes that eastern media has heaped upon West Virginians for well over a century.

Now if I can just convince president Gee that the Aeroschraft Flying Hotel would be a good investment in advertising, as well as a good way to combine travel, food, and lodging expenses under one umbrella. Imagine this flying around the country with the WV logo. It would be one hell of an advertising campaign that never ends.
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Yes, the big 12 was a step up but the SEC or the ACC will be much better fits for WVU. A rivalry built up with the likes of Tennessee and Kentucky? Much better. It is even better if you end up in the ACC. I know you guys bear ill will there but as you say, change is inevitable and people always evolve with the change eventually. Being back in conference with Pitt, Virginia Tech, Syracuse and Louisville provides great local/regional match ups while also providing some great high end match ups with the likes of FSU and Clemson down in that traditional recruiting area for WVU.

I get the loyalty that you are trying to show but you aren't fooling me Bit. We both know you would love to see WVU in either of those conferences.
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(02-14-2015 12:12 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-14-2015 12:03 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-13-2015 08:08 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-13-2015 01:34 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Rivalries take time to build up. Realignment has ended some rivalries, which is always sad to see. But all things are impermanent.

In time, new rivalries will arise to replace those lost. And old rivalries that no longer exist are made for TV OOC events, if the schools involved are smart enough to recognize it.
Yes, many rivalries have fallen to the wayside. We havn't seen the last of that to happen either.

What I have said is to come would help rebuild new rivalries AND solidify some very important current rivalries.

You recognize though how it would be better for a school like WVU to once again lose newly created rivalries if it means a chance to create more new rivalries with schools more geographically pertinent to The Mountaineers.

Folks have a hard time with change but I don't think it will take too long for folks to get on board with what is coming after it actually happens.
No. We have not seen the last rivalry to die with the changes in college football. The only constant truth in the universe is change. It happens, whether you want it to or not.

But many WVU fans are finding the move to the Big XII a plus. WVU athletics are on TV almost every game, more than our old rivals in the ACC. We have high profile home games in football every year. And the Big XII media doesn't use the same tired old stereotypes that eastern media has heaped upon West Virginians for well over a century.

Now if I can just convince president Gee that the Aeroschraft Flying Hotel would be a good investment in advertising, as well as a good way to combine travel, food, and lodging expenses under one umbrella. Imagine this flying around the country with the WV logo. It would be one hell of an advertising campaign that never ends.
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Yes, the big 12 was a step up but the SEC or the ACC will be much better fits for WVU. A rivalry built up with the likes of Tennessee and Kentucky? Much better. It is even better if you end up in the ACC. I know you guys bear ill will there but as you say, change is inevitable and people always evolve with the change eventually. Being back in conference with Pitt, Virginia Tech, Syracuse and Louisville provides great local/regional match ups while also providing some great high end match ups with the likes of FSU and Clemson down in that traditional recruiting area for WVU.

I get the loyalty that you are trying to show but you aren't fooling me Bit. We both know you would love to see WVU in either of those conferences.
The SEC, yes.

The ACC can stick it. They don't value football enough. If they did, WVU would have been a member long ago. The ACC has said all along they don't want or need WVU. So be it. WVU has no need of the ACC either. IMO it's the Big East, slightly better run, and on a slightly larger scale. But ultimately doomed to turmoil in the long run.
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I have always thought that WVU ultimately belongs in the SEC...

Instant rivalries with Tennessee and Kentucky (especially Kentucky), would balance out the East-West divisions allowing Mizzou to slide West, and West Virginia was "officially" a Union State (so was Missouri, for that matter), WV is most certainly a "Southern" state overall.

But none of those things really affect realignment. But if the B12 were to implode/explode (which I doubt), the SEC grabbing WVU makes a lot of sense in my thinking.
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WVU's problem is it doesn't contribute in the SEC. It doesn't bolster the SEC in any meaningful way. If every other choice is taken I could see them filling a gap with them but they aren't a target nor are they desirable.

It also is a cultural misfit. Southern and 'mountain' aren't the same thing. WVU is much more connected with the coast and a portion of the Midwest than the South. There is a lot more to the SEC than Tennessee and Kentucky has always been viewed as on the peripheray.

It's nothing against WVU they are just in a unique position from top to bottom and really don't 'fit' anywhere, well, other than where they were before the realignment game got rolling.

A final point, and perhaps one of the stronger ones, a WVU addition, in spite of the many shades of complexity, would represent a total shift in the SEC's strategy, that's what makes it unlikely. The SEC throwing out years of consistency for the addition of a less than desirable choice? I don't see that and I don't think anybody in the SEC does either.

Realignment is a bar style beauty contest. Why take the 6 home when the 8s and 9s are still possibilities and the night is young?
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(02-15-2015 01:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  WVU's problem is it doesn't contribute in the SEC. It doesn't bolster the SEC in any meaningful way. If every other choice is taken I could see them filling a gap with them but they aren't a target nor are they desirable.

It also is a cultural misfit. Southern and 'mountain' aren't the same thing. WVU is much more connected with the coast and a portion of the Midwest than the South. There is a lot more to the SEC than Tennessee and Kentucky has always been viewed as on the peripheray.

It's nothing against WVU they are just in a unique position from top to bottom and really don't 'fit' anywhere, well, other than where they were before the realignment game got rolling.

A final point, and perhaps one of the stronger ones, a WVU addition, in spite of the many shades of complexity, would represent a total shift in the SEC's strategy, that's what makes it unlikely. The SEC throwing out years of consistency for the addition of a less than desirable choice? I don't see that and I don't think anybody in the SEC does either.

Realignment is a bar style beauty contest. Why take the 6 home when the 8s and 9s are still possibilities and the night is young?

I get it, with a present day perspective, I can see how an SEC fan would say WVU doesn't fit. I wont even bother to argue that.

The reason why I feel they are a good fit for the SEC is because of the future. I do believe that four team divisions are pretty much inevitable. I also believe that the SEC poorly utilizes Tennessee. I think that when we get to four team divisions, Tennessee will be positioned as the top dog in the hierarchy of it's own division. Right now that would be Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky and Vanderbilt if all expansion is southwestern and/or southeastern. If you stick Vanderbilt down with a different division and instead slip in West Virginia then you have a very well balanced division that will provide strong competition and yet Tennessee should have the upper hand in the recruiting battle within a division.

This set up allows those most northern programs to have a little boost in their southern recruiting as they become viable routes to the four team SEC Tournament of the future.
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In the MAC many of us cheer for each other OoC. (I'm assuming this is true for most G5 teams/conferences)
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(02-12-2015 11:46 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  
(02-12-2015 11:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(02-12-2015 08:36 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(02-12-2015 12:39 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  As an Sparty fan, I have NO respect for the scum that is called Michigan. I do however respect Notre Dame. None of us care about the Penn State or Indiana games.

You're clearly not well, Dex.

03-lmfao

To be fair I grew up in the footprint of Michigan and have received a lot of bullying and harassment for being a Sparty fan my whole life. I have reason behind hating Michigan, specially their fans, not all but most. I've never had a problem with Notre Dame fans, generally due to the mutual dislike/hatred for all things "Maize" and Blue.

UMich fans and Spartan alums have one thing in common: neither went to UMich. Most of the obnoxious UMich fans couldn't step on their campus without having bought a ticket first.
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Maryland-Hopkins for lacrosse.

Penn State needs to actually beat us in a few sports before we'll entertain their rivalry application.
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(02-15-2015 01:00 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-14-2015 12:12 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-14-2015 12:03 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-13-2015 08:08 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-13-2015 01:34 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Rivalries take time to build up. Realignment has ended some rivalries, which is always sad to see. But all things are impermanent.

In time, new rivalries will arise to replace those lost. And old rivalries that no longer exist are made for TV OOC events, if the schools involved are smart enough to recognize it.
Yes, many rivalries have fallen to the wayside. We havn't seen the last of that to happen either.

What I have said is to come would help rebuild new rivalries AND solidify some very important current rivalries.

You recognize though how it would be better for a school like WVU to once again lose newly created rivalries if it means a chance to create more new rivalries with schools more geographically pertinent to The Mountaineers.

Folks have a hard time with change but I don't think it will take too long for folks to get on board with what is coming after it actually happens.
No. We have not seen the last rivalry to die with the changes in college football. The only constant truth in the universe is change. It happens, whether you want it to or not.

But many WVU fans are finding the move to the Big XII a plus. WVU athletics are on TV almost every game, more than our old rivals in the ACC. We have high profile home games in football every year. And the Big XII media doesn't use the same tired old stereotypes that eastern media has heaped upon West Virginians for well over a century.

Now if I can just convince president Gee that the Aeroschraft Flying Hotel would be a good investment in advertising, as well as a good way to combine travel, food, and lodging expenses under one umbrella. Imagine this flying around the country with the WV logo. It would be one hell of an advertising campaign that never ends.
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Yes, the big 12 was a step up but the SEC or the ACC will be much better fits for WVU. A rivalry built up with the likes of Tennessee and Kentucky? Much better. It is even better if you end up in the ACC. I know you guys bear ill will there but as you say, change is inevitable and people always evolve with the change eventually. Being back in conference with Pitt, Virginia Tech, Syracuse and Louisville provides great local/regional match ups while also providing some great high end match ups with the likes of FSU and Clemson down in that traditional recruiting area for WVU.

I get the loyalty that you are trying to show but you aren't fooling me Bit. We both know you would love to see WVU in either of those conferences.
The SEC, yes.

The ACC can stick it. They don't value football enough. If they did, WVU would have been a member long ago. The ACC has said all along they don't want or need WVU. So be it. WVU has no need of the ACC either. IMO it's the Big East, slightly better run, and on a slightly larger scale. But ultimately doomed to turmoil in the long run.

Virginia, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and (before they left) Maryland. There isn't a more natural fit for West Virginia than the ACC. Both basketball and football would be off the chain for those rivalries.

But, this is where we are. The ACC says it doesn't want WVU, and WVU doesn't want the ACC.

That's what college athletics does now. They avoid rivalries and stretch for reasons as to why they're not needed instead of embracing them.

West Virginia, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Pitt, Maryland, Duke, Wake, NC State, UNC. Back when we had single division conferences that played true round robins or double round robins, that would be about as awesome as a conference could get. And hell, if you want a football championship game, then partner with another eight or nine team conference, call it a football coalition (or some BS term) and have a championship game every year.

I remember West Virginia's rivalries with Pitt and VA Tech. Maybe you didn't need each other, but damn it sure was fun. I don't think there is anything on either team's schedule now that really matches it.
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(02-13-2015 10:38 AM)David HD Wrote:  
(02-12-2015 05:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC has a friendly rivalry with UofL in football and hoops.


I hate Xavier however in hoops. I hate them.

(02-12-2015 05:25 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(02-12-2015 05:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC has a friendly rivalry with UofL in football and hoops.


I hate Xavier however in hoops. I hate them.

I root for Xavier to lose every game. I don't care if that affects our RPI. It would definitely be worth it.

You see, THIS is what good rivalries are all about!!

I used to think the Xavier v Cincinnati rivalry was kind of a hidden gem. It didn't really resonate nationally, but within the city and among the players it was big. Those guys probably play hundreds of pick up games together, and this was the one "official" game between the two. It really did have an exciting sort of playground feel to it when you watched it. For about a ten year period, the majority of the games were exciting, close and well played.

They moved it off campus to a bigger downtown arena, which I thought was a great idea because you could get 8000+ fans of each team in it, and probably accommodate all the season ticket holders every year. Surprisingly, they never sold the game out at the neutral site location. I don't think they ever came close to selling it out.

On top of that, it's been about six or seven years since it's been a good game to watch. By early on in the second half, it's pretty much decided. I know the two got into a big fight at the end of the game a few years back, but that aside, perhaps this rivalry has cooled somewhat. So, it's good to hear that you still hate Xavier. That's a key ingredient to a good heated rivalry.

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LOVE IT!!

College basketball, and college sports in general, needs more games like this and not less. Granted, it's not quite the same because it's not a conference game, but it's still a good rivalry.

.....I still don't understand why 10k Xavier fans will buy tickets to watch it at Xavier, and 13k Cincinnati fans will buy tickets to watch it at Cincinnati, but neither 8k Cincinnati or Xavier fans would buy tickets to watch it downtown. It made no sense. It could have been a FANTASTIC atmosphere with one team's students behind one basket and the other team's students behind the other. It would have been a lot like Illinois v Mizzou or Kentucky v Indiana (when they used to play at a neutral site).

Oh well. This year's game is actually quite important. Both teams are inside the bubble, but hovering right around it, so it actually means quite a bit on paper as well as off this year.
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(02-17-2015 04:02 PM)David HD Wrote:  LOVE IT!!

College basketball, and college sports in general, needs more games like this and not less. Granted, it's not quite the same because it's not a conference game, but it's still a good rivalry.

Non-conference rivalries are some of the best (Notre Dame-USC, FSU-Florida, Clemson-SC). Sometimes a conference breeds too much familiarity.

Sadly, Cincy-Xavier does seem to lack respect. Too nasty, IMO.
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(02-17-2015 04:02 PM)David HD Wrote:  LOVE IT!!

College basketball, and college sports in general, needs more games like this and not less. Granted, it's not quite the same because it's not a conference game, but it's still a good rivalry.

.....I still don't understand why 10k Xavier fans will buy tickets to watch it at Xavier, and 13k Cincinnati fans will buy tickets to watch it at Cincinnati, but neither 8k Cincinnati or Xavier fans would buy tickets to watch it downtown. It made no sense. It could have been a FANTASTIC atmosphere with one team's students behind one basket and the other team's students behind the other. It would have been a lot like Illinois v Mizzou or Kentucky v Indiana (when they used to play at a neutral site).

Oh well. This year's game is actually quite important. Both teams are inside the bubble, but hovering right around it, so it actually means quite a bit on paper as well as off this year.

You forget that a few thousand of those fans are students who have difficulty getting downtown. Also, alums prefer to watch games on campus as it gives them an opportunity to check out their old stomping grounds. As a UC fan I love going back to campus every year because there has been so much development there is always something new to see. In addition, games on campus have a much better athmosphere than what was had at US Bank. A raucous corwd adds in to the enjoyment of going to a game.

The final thing I will note (and it is a pretty significant) is that games on campus are much cheaper than what the tickets were selling for downtown.
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(02-17-2015 04:02 PM)David HD Wrote:  LOVE IT!!

College basketball, and college sports in general, needs more games like this and not less. Granted, it's not quite the same because it's not a conference game, but it's still a good rivalry.

.....I still don't understand why 10k Xavier fans will buy tickets to watch it at Xavier, and 13k Cincinnati fans will buy tickets to watch it at Cincinnati, but neither 8k Cincinnati or Xavier fans would buy tickets to watch it downtown. It made no sense. It could have been a FANTASTIC atmosphere with one team's students behind one basket and the other team's students behind the other. It would have been a lot like Illinois v Mizzou or Kentucky v Indiana (when they used to play at a neutral site).

Oh well. This year's game is actually quite important. Both teams are inside the bubble, but hovering right around it, so it actually means quite a bit on paper as well as off this year.

Part of it is because US Bank Arena is a crappy place to watch a basketball game. Everyone is way too far from the action.

But in reality, you had at least 8k Bearcats fans there both years it was in US Bank. The crowd was roughly 80% UC fans both years, and the attendance was 14,500 and 10,500.
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(02-18-2015 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-17-2015 04:02 PM)David HD Wrote:  LOVE IT!!

College basketball, and college sports in general, needs more games like this and not less. Granted, it's not quite the same because it's not a conference game, but it's still a good rivalry.

Non-conference rivalries are some of the best (Notre Dame-USC, FSU-Florida, Clemson-SC). Sometimes a conference breeds too much familiarity.

Sadly, Cincy-Xavier does seem to lack respect. Too nasty, IMO.

It's only nasty if you are only aware of the game because of what happened in 2011. The rivalry has a history that goes much farther than that. There is always tension leading up to the game between the fans, but the fight that happened was more of the exception than the rule. A lot of that was driven by the growing tension over 3 years between 2009-2011 that grew between Yancy Gates and Kenny Frease.
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(02-18-2015 12:40 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-17-2015 04:02 PM)David HD Wrote:  LOVE IT!!

College basketball, and college sports in general, needs more games like this and not less. Granted, it's not quite the same because it's not a conference game, but it's still a good rivalry.

Non-conference rivalries are some of the best (Notre Dame-USC, FSU-Florida, Clemson-SC). Sometimes a conference breeds too much familiarity.

Sadly, Cincy-Xavier does seem to lack respect. Too nasty, IMO.

It's only nasty if you are only aware of the game because of what happened in 2011. The rivalry has a history that goes much farther than that. There is always tension leading up to the game between the fans, but the fight that happened was more of the exception than the rule. A lot of that was driven by the growing tension over 3 years between 2009-2011 that grew between Yancy Gates and Kenny Frease.

Agreed. When I was growing up going to a Catholic school, the day of the shootout was always an out-of-uniform day. There was some good-natured ribbing, but mostly it was a celebration of college basketball.

The shootout has been a big game ever since it started in the 1940s. In the 50s, the shootout was 2 games in basketball and 1 in football. We played annually in football until Xavier dropped their program in 1973.
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RE: Rivalries based on Mutual Respect
(02-17-2015 04:02 PM)David HD Wrote:  LOVE IT!!

College basketball, and college sports in general, needs more games like this and not less. Granted, it's not quite the same because it's not a conference game, but it's still a good rivalry.

.....I still don't understand why 10k Xavier fans will buy tickets to watch it at Xavier, and 13k Cincinnati fans will buy tickets to watch it at Cincinnati, but neither 8k Cincinnati or Xavier fans would buy tickets to watch it downtown. It made no sense. It could have been a FANTASTIC atmosphere with one team's students behind one basket and the other team's students behind the other. It would have been a lot like Illinois v Mizzou or Kentucky v Indiana (when they used to play at a neutral site).

Oh well. This year's game is actually quite important. Both teams are inside the bubble, but hovering right around it, so it actually means quite a bit on paper as well as off this year.

US Bank arena sucks and its a suck place to watch a game.


PS: fricken XU did it to us again. They always have some guy shoot out of his mind for ONE game against UC. Case in point: D Davis...26% 3pt shooter on the year, 18% 3pt shooter in big east play: guy goes off vs UC. It never fails...it never fails. I hate u XU.
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