98-99 was the nadir of the awful Tic Price experience. 13-15 record, no postseason

Currently, we're 14-10.

By RPI numbers

2014-2015 (14-10)

1-7 vs. top 50
0-1 vs 51-100
1-0 vs 101-150
3-1 vs 151-200
9-1 vs. 200+

98-99 (13-15)

1-9 vs top 50
2-0 vs 51-100
6-4 vs 101-150
2-2 vs 151-200
2-0 vs 200 +

Are we sure this team is better than that team? By the numbers, I would say it's very close. 12 of our 14 wins are versus sub 150 teams and sub 150 teams compromise 14 of our 24 games. The 98-99 team only played 6 teams sub 150 the entire season and not nearly the number of sub 200 teams we've fattened on.

I think this may be the worse Tiger basketball team of my life. With all this talent.

Let that sink in, then proceed to somehow try to justify what has happened.

Source on '99 RPI data:
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/rpi.php?y=1999

(02-10-2015 10:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  98-99 was the nadir of the awful Tic Price experience. 13-15 record, no postseason

Currently, we're 14-10.

By RPI numbers

2014-2015 (14-10)

1-7 vs. top 50
0-1 vs 51-100
1-0 vs 101-150
3-1 vs 151-200
9-1 vs. 200+

98-99 (13-15)

1-9 vs top 50
2-0 vs 51-100
6-4 vs 101-150
2-2 vs 151-200
2-0 vs 200 +

Are we sure this team is better than that team? By the numbers, I would say it's very close. 12 of our 14 wins are versus sub 150 teams and sub 150 teams compromise 14 of our 24 games. The 98-99 team only played 6 teams sub 150 the entire season and not nearly the number of sub 200 teams we've fattened on.

I think this may be the worse Tiger basketball team of my life. With all this talent.

Let that sink in, then proceed to somehow try to justify what has happened.

Source on '99 RPI data:
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/rpi.php?y=1999

don't worry, stammers will.

(02-10-2015 10:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  98-99 was the nadir of the awful Tic Price experience. 13-15 record, no postseason

Currently, we're 14-10.

By RPI numbers

2014-2015 (14-10)

1-7 vs. top 50
0-1 vs 51-100
1-0 vs 101-150
3-1 vs 151-200
9-1 vs. 200+

98-99 (13-15)

1-9 vs top 50
2-0 vs 51-100
6-4 vs 101-150
2-2 vs 151-200
2-0 vs 200 +

Are we sure this team is better than that team? By the numbers, I would say it's very close. 12 of our 14 wins are versus sub 150 teams and sub 150 teams compromise 14 of our 24 games. The 98-99 team only played 6 teams sub 150 the entire season and not nearly the number of sub 200 teams we've fattened on.

I think this may be the worse Tiger basketball team of my life. With all this talent.

Let that sink in, then proceed to somehow try to justify what has happened.

Source on '99 RPI data:
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/rpi.php?y=1999

Numbers are overrated. I much prefer pictures

You gotta give a brotha a break, man. Tic had other things in his mind, man. Don't be a playa hater! Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

Based upon pure results, I agree.

However, Tic Price was a total doofus when it came to management skills. Even before the Chenoa incident, here's what really got him in trouble (and he should've been fired immediately after 98-99):

1. The 'let's have senior day celebration AFTER the Cincinnati game' decision and have 2/3 of the crowd gone after getting blown out by Cincinnati AND having Chuck Roberts pleading, begging people to 'stay for the Senior Day celebration' after the game.

2. The Jermane Ousley 'I can't make it to the Rebounder's banquet due to car trouble' incident. What. A. Slap. In. The. Face.

3. The 'hey, I'm Tic Price and I am gonna do commercials for Advanced Auto Parts' when everyone knows that AutoZone is a HUGE Memphis-based, U of M supporter. Dear God, what an idiot!

4. The 'deer in the headlights' look during the Tic Price. Tic looked about as comfortable as someone on death row during his 30 minute TV shows.

Pastner is light years better as a manager than Tic Price will ever dream of being. Tic Price was truly the lowest the program had ever been. Thank goodness the Grizz weren't around at that point because it was just an ugly, ugly time in the program's history.

I recognize that CJP should probably be canned, but at least I can respect the way he ran the program. CJP is a stellar man and I think he'll be a great coach in the future. The timing just wasn't right, that's all.

(02-10-2015 10:13 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  98-99 was the nadir of the awful Tic Price experience. 13-15 record, no postseason

Currently, we're 14-10.

By RPI numbers

2014-2015 (14-10)

1-7 vs. top 50
0-1 vs 51-100
1-0 vs 101-150
3-1 vs 151-200
9-1 vs. 200+

98-99 (13-15)

1-9 vs top 50
2-0 vs 51-100
6-4 vs 101-150
2-2 vs 151-200
2-0 vs 200 +

Are we sure this team is better than that team? By the numbers, I would say it's very close. 12 of our 14 wins are versus sub 150 teams and sub 150 teams compromise 14 of our 24 games. The 98-99 team only played 6 teams sub 150 the entire season and not nearly the number of sub 200 teams we've fattened on.

I think this may be the worse Tiger basketball team of my life. With all this talent.

Let that sink in, then proceed to somehow try to justify what has happened.

Source on '99 RPI data:
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/rpi.php?y=1999

don't worry, stammers will.

Everybody has a limit. This one may have pushed even Stammers over to the dark side.......

(02-10-2015 10:33 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:13 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  98-99 was the nadir of the awful Tic Price experience. 13-15 record, no postseason

Currently, we're 14-10.

By RPI numbers

2014-2015 (14-10)

1-7 vs. top 50
0-1 vs 51-100
1-0 vs 101-150
3-1 vs 151-200
9-1 vs. 200+

98-99 (13-15)

1-9 vs top 50
2-0 vs 51-100
6-4 vs 101-150
2-2 vs 151-200
2-0 vs 200 +

Are we sure this team is better than that team? By the numbers, I would say it's very close. 12 of our 14 wins are versus sub 150 teams and sub 150 teams compromise 14 of our 24 games. The 98-99 team only played 6 teams sub 150 the entire season and not nearly the number of sub 200 teams we've fattened on.

I think this may be the worse Tiger basketball team of my life. With all this talent.

Let that sink in, then proceed to somehow try to justify what has happened.

Source on '99 RPI data:
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/rpi.php?y=1999

don't worry, stammers will.

Everybody has a limit. This one may have pushed even Stammers over to the dark side.......

Stammers lives for the argument and the perceived slight. His convictions are only of moderate importance. It's the strife he seeks, particularly with someone he has labeled as an enemy.

Prognosis: General anxiety disorder with some narcissistic tendencies.

I'm a little surprised, honestly. I didn't realize how many of our wins were throwaways this year. I knew the program had been doing the Tommy West shuffle where the results get worse but we just play worse teams every year, but it's really striking.

I think if the 98-99 team played our schedule this year they'd probably be sitting on a slightly better record. That team, retrospectively, was not untalented. Snap Hunter, Sneed, Ousley, Marcus Moody, Keiron Shine, Shyrone Chatman, Shamel Jones, Kelly Wise. You should be able to craft something out of that.

Tic Price is just a terrible basketball coach

Snap was special. Damn, he could've been the greatest ever. Omar got more out of less than any Tiger I can remember.

I would trade that team for.this one in a second.

Last year we played Louisville twice and the National Champs three times... yet that schedule is watered down!?!! WTF are you

(02-10-2015 10:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  98-99 was the nadir of the awful Tic Price experience. 13-15 record, no postseason

Currently, we're 14-10.

By RPI numbers

2014-2015 (14-10)

1-7 vs. top 50
0-1 vs 51-100
1-0 vs 101-150
3-1 vs 151-200
9-1 vs. 200+

98-99 (13-15)

1-9 vs top 50
2-0 vs 51-100
6-4 vs 101-150
2-2 vs 151-200
2-0 vs 200 +

Are we sure this team is better than that team? By the numbers, I would say it's very close. 12 of our 14 wins are versus sub 150 teams and sub 150 teams compromise 14 of our 24 games. The 98-99 team only played 6 teams sub 150 the entire season and not nearly the number of sub 200 teams we've fattened on.

I think this may be the worse Tiger basketball team of my life. With all this talent.

Let that sink in, then proceed to somehow try to justify what has happened.

Source on '99 RPI data:
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/rpi.php?y=1999

This comparison is enlightening. I would not have expected this year's squad to compare so badly.

I think our Kenpom rating (98) is probably the best indicator of where the program is.