She's led to a lot of wasted food in school cafeterias.

I see the usual suspects on this board haven't defended her yet.

(02-10-2015 09:43 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  I see the usual suspects on this board haven't defended her yet.

Her whole school lunch program overhaul has been a failure.

(02-10-2015 09:43 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  I see the usual suspects on this board haven't defended her yet.

I would be one of the people more likely to support her. I think this is all going way overboard though.

If she so much as breathes a bad word about my Velveeta shells & cheese... so help me...

(02-10-2015 10:09 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  If she so much as breathes a bad word about my Velveeta shells & cheese... so help me...

Shes not wrong. The stuff is terrible for you, and food that like is a reason Americans are getting fat. That being said, there really isn't much we can do about it.

As to "real" food being too expensive, my grocery bill is about $130 per month and I only buy produce, meat, eggs, and a loaf of bread every week. That is compared to $200 when I used to buy packaged and processed food.

(02-10-2015 10:33 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Shes not wrong. The stuff is terrible for you, and food that like is a reason Americans are getting fat. That being said, there really isn't much we can do about it.

As to "real" food being too expensive, my grocery bill is about $130 per month and I only buy produce, meat, eggs, and a loaf of bread every week. That is compared to $200 when I used to buy packaged and processed food.

Kraft Mac and Cheese has been around since 1937. I doubt it has anything to do with Americans getting fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Dinner

If you're eating the stuff every day, sure. An occasional box of it won't do anything. And what is in processed foods that would make someone fat?

Mac and Cheese... yuck!

(02-10-2015 10:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:33 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Shes not wrong. The stuff is terrible for you, and food that like is a reason Americans are getting fat. That being said, there really isn't much we can do about it.

As to "real" food being too expensive, my grocery bill is about $130 per month and I only buy produce, meat, eggs, and a loaf of bread every week. That is compared to $200 when I used to buy packaged and processed food.

Kraft Mac and Cheese has been around since 1937. I doubt it has anything to do with Americans getting fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Dinner

If people ate packaged stuff like that only on occasion, sure it won't kill you. Just as having a delivery pizza once every few weeks won't kill you. But many people eat this "convenient food" for every meal. Sugary cereal for breakfast, fast food for lunch, then a boxed Hamburger Helper type thing for dinner. That stuff starts to add up.

Back in the 30s and 40s, I bet kids weren't eating Kraft Mac and Cheese that often, their moms were probably making real mac and cheese.

(02-10-2015 10:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  If you're eating the stuff every day, sure. An occasional box of it won't do anything. And what is in processed foods that would make someone fat?

Since the food is broken down prior to eating, the calories (and other nutrients) are more readily available (and easier digested) than if it was whole, natural foods (and no I don't mean organic, screw that noise).

I'm not suggesting ban it, but American need a better diet, science shows that. It's not coincidence we are all getting fatter as packaged food is easier to come by and we sit on our butts all day.

(02-10-2015 10:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  If you're eating the stuff every day, sure. An occasional box of it won't do anything. And what is in processed foods that would make someone fat?

I think it has more to do with inactivity and a TV/Video game/Smart Phone/Internet culture. Kids need to be active. Too many of them are not. Healthy eating combined with inactivity is worse than unhealthy eating combined with an active lifestyle, IMO.

(02-10-2015 10:40 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Kraft Mac and Cheese has been around since 1937. I doubt it has anything to do with Americans getting fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Dinner
If people ate packaged stuff like that only on occasion, sure it won't kill you. Just as having a delivery pizza once every few weeks won't kill you. But many people eat this "convenient food" for every meal. Sugary cereal for breakfast, fast food for lunch, then a boxed Hamburger Helper type thing for dinner. That stuff starts to add up.

Back in the 30s and 40s, I bet kids weren't eating Kraft Mac and Cheese that often, their moms were probably making real mac and cheese.

It would definitely not be a good mainstay for a diet. That's because it's high in carbohydrates and calories and doesn't have good vitamin and mineral content. It has nothing to do with it being "processed food", which is a complete nonsense term in the way most people us it.

Powdered cheese is just cheese that is dried out so that it can be stored at room temperature and doesn't need to be refrigerated. It's not like it's something synthesized from inorganic chemicals in a lab.

I honestly wonder if Michelle Obama understands how cheese or pasta is made. Guess I couldn't hold it too much against her if she didn't. A lot of otherwise intelligent Americans fall for the fallacy of "natural" versus "processed" food.

(02-10-2015 10:43 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  If you're eating the stuff every day, sure. An occasional box of it won't do anything. And what is in processed foods that would make someone fat?

Since the food is broken down prior to eating, the calories (and other nutrients) are more readily available (and easier digested) than if it was whole, natural foods (and no I don't mean organic, screw that noise).

I'm not suggesting ban it, but American need a better diet, science shows that. It's not coincidence we are all getting fatter as packaged food is easier to come by and we sit on our butts all day.

Science doesn't know what we should eat. They pretend like they do, but it changes every 6 months. I would think that the weight gain has less to do with processed foods than sitting around all day.

Just this morning I heard on the radio about a study that we shouldn't avoid fat (not that new) or even red meat.

(02-10-2015 10:40 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:33 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Shes not wrong. The stuff is terrible for you, and food that like is a reason Americans are getting fat. That being said, there really isn't much we can do about it.

As to "real" food being too expensive, my grocery bill is about $130 per month and I only buy produce, meat, eggs, and a loaf of bread every week. That is compared to $200 when I used to buy packaged and processed food.

Kraft Mac and Cheese has been around since 1937. I doubt it has anything to do with Americans getting fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Dinner

If people ate packaged stuff like that only on occasion, sure it won't kill you. Just as having a delivery pizza once every few weeks won't kill you. But many people eat this "convenient food" for every meal. Sugary cereal for breakfast, fast food for lunch, then a boxed Hamburger Helper type thing for dinner. That stuff starts to add up.

Back in the 30s and 40s, I bet kids weren't eating Kraft Mac and Cheese that often, their moms were probably making real mac and cheese.

I can't speak for the 30s and 40s, but the only difference between the 80s and today is the inactivity.

(02-10-2015 10:47 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  If you're eating the stuff every day, sure. An occasional box of it won't do anything. And what is in processed foods that would make someone fat?

I think it has more to do with inactivity and a TV/Video game/Smart Phone/Internet culture. Kids need to be active. Too many of them are not. Healthy eating combined with inactivity is worse than unhealthy eating combined with an active lifestyle, IMO.

You lose weight in the kitchen, you get in shape in the gym.

I agree kids need to be more active, but spending 30 minutes in the kitchen preparing a healthy meal is most likely better for you (in terms of caloric deficit)than 30 minutes of exercise.

(02-10-2015 10:49 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:40 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Kraft Mac and Cheese has been around since 1937. I doubt it has anything to do with Americans getting fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Dinner
If people ate packaged stuff like that only on occasion, sure it won't kill you. Just as having a delivery pizza once every few weeks won't kill you. But many people eat this "convenient food" for every meal. Sugary cereal for breakfast, fast food for lunch, then a boxed Hamburger Helper type thing for dinner. That stuff starts to add up.

Back in the 30s and 40s, I bet kids weren't eating Kraft Mac and Cheese that often, their moms were probably making real mac and cheese.

It would definitely not be a good mainstay for a diet. That's because it's high in carbohydrates and calories and doesn't have good vitamin and mineral content. It has nothing to do with it being "processed food", which is a complete nonsense term in the way most people us it.

Powdered cheese is just cheese that is dried out so that it can be stored at room temperature and doesn't need to be refrigerated. It's not like it's something synthesized from inorganic chemicals in a lab.

I honestly wonder if Michelle Obama understands how cheese or pasta is made. Guess I couldn't hold it too much against her. A lot of otherwise intelligent Americans falls or the fallacy of "natural" versus "processed" food.

Calories and carbohydrates are needed fuel. They only become a negative on the body when stored and not used. I read somewhere that Michael Phelps was consuming some 12,000 calories per day when he was training for the Olympics.

[quote='EagleRockCafe' pid='11752072' dateline='1423539925']


The Queen wants to take Mac n' Cheese from her subjects.....

Quote: First Lady Michelle Obama is going after boxed mac and cheese, saying, “Cheese dust is not food.”



http://freebeacon.com/issues/michelle-o-...-not-food/

What a dumb ass. Does this mean that I'm not really drinking hot chocolate too?

My diet, I avoid sugar. Other than that, within reason.

It isn't that difficult. Americans today just have very little willpower when it comes to food and they are sold all sorts of **** about what they eat.

But, you wanna see the difference, the cookie isle is its own isle folks. That's not good.