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we (my brother and sister too) got pops (he's 73 now) a pocket sized, concealable, .22 w/o safety for xmas this year.....

mom wasn't too happy, but she understood....

when I get older and can't swing that bat......I'm sawin' one off and will have others types 'staged' in the most populated areas.....

well, I already do.....but the baseball bat is still my first option.....
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I have a .22, but because the wife is worried about the kid messing with it, it has a trigger lock and only my wife knows where the key is and the ammo is also hidden. If a bad guy comes into my house all I could do is beat him with the damn thing.
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(02-07-2015 01:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have a .22, but because the wife is worried about the kid messing with it, it has a trigger lock and only my wife knows where the key is and the ammo is also hidden. If a bad guy comes into my house all I could do is beat him with the damn thing.

whatever it takes to provide security in both mind and body.....yeah, I'm okay with that.....

heaven forbid it happens, but I hope you get to beat him with it.....it's euphoria in waiting.....the receiving end just doesn't know it yet......
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(02-07-2015 01:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have a .22, but because the wife is worried about the kid messing with it, it has a trigger lock and only my wife knows where the key is and the ammo is also hidden. If a bad guy comes into my house all I could do is beat him with the damn thing.

Purchase a Gun Vault for a handgun. It's made from 10 g steel. And will be safe to keep stored in. That addresses the trigger lock and keeps it away from children.


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(02-07-2015 04:07 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 01:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have a .22, but because the wife is worried about the kid messing with it, it has a trigger lock and only my wife knows where the key is and the ammo is also hidden. If a bad guy comes into my house all I could do is beat him with the damn thing.

Purchase a Gun Vault for a handgun. It's made from 10 g steel. And will be safe to keep stored in. That addresses the trigger lock and keeps it away from children.


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I disagree....

you teach children.....hiding info is 'fail' in my book....every time!

...and timing is everything.....
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I like Glock over Beretta a. As far as simplistic and reliable. That's what you want.

Memphis is wrong as usual. Genius idea of giving up your surprise element on the intruder !!

Stay with a NATO round ammunition. .45 ACP or 9mm. It will always be available around the world.


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(02-07-2015 04:09 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 04:07 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 01:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have a .22, but because the wife is worried about the kid messing with it, it has a trigger lock and only my wife knows where the key is and the ammo is also hidden. If a bad guy comes into my house all I could do is beat him with the damn thing.

Purchase a Gun Vault for a handgun. It's made from 10 g steel. And will be safe to keep stored in. That addresses the trigger lock and keeps it away from children.


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I disagree....

you teach children.....hiding info is 'fail' in my book....every time!

...and timing is everything.....

What??? I teach mine how to respect a firearm and he can out shot you as. a 9 year old.

Good luck with the Easton project. You'll need it




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(02-07-2015 01:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 01:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 12:39 AM)Kronke Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 06:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  a shotgun is the absolute best in home security...

if you think you hear someone in your home, just stand in your bedroom doorway, and co(k (< lol, word filter) the gun...it will clear a house quickly.

I have a Sig P229 .40 Caliber handgun, and it's great.

It was always going to be UofM that gave the first, bad piece of advice in this thread, wasn't it?

OP, the above is the one thing you don't want to do. Racking a shotgun isn't going to scare the meth head out of your house, all it's going to do is give away exactly where you are. PLEASE do not follow this advice.

you're such an idiot...

I was taught that by a police officer, teaching my carry permit class, at Memphis' largest, nicest facility.





I'll take the advice of a 25 year LEO over your personal opinion, thanks...OP, ignore idiot Houston fans...

Gotta go with you on this one Memphis. If you are in the dark and the intruder cant see you, hearing that sound will definitely make him think twice.

I was at a gun shop in town a year or so ago and a couple were there looking for a home defense gun. There were maybe 10 of us in the store and it was a very small store. To make a point the salesman racked the gun, and everybody in the store, including the other salespeople, turned our heads to look as we put our hands on our sidearms. It's very intimidating. Besides, if someone breaks in in the middle of the night, they already know you are more than likely in the bedrooms.

Exactly...
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Trigger locks takes too much timeGun
Gun Vault sit on my nightstand. Right out in the open. No hiding here just being responsible and effective


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(02-07-2015 04:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 01:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 01:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 12:39 AM)Kronke Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 06:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  a shotgun is the absolute best in home security...

if you think you hear someone in your home, just stand in your bedroom doorway, and co(k (< lol, word filter) the gun...it will clear a house quickly.

I have a Sig P229 .40 Caliber handgun, and it's great.

It was always going to be UofM that gave the first, bad piece of advice in this thread, wasn't it?

OP, the above is the one thing you don't want to do. Racking a shotgun isn't going to scare the meth head out of your house, all it's going to do is give away exactly where you are. PLEASE do not follow this advice.

you're such an idiot...

I was taught that by a police officer, teaching my carry permit class, at Memphis' largest, nicest facility.





I'll take the advice of a 25 year LEO over your personal opinion, thanks...OP, ignore idiot Houston fans...

Gotta go with you on this one Memphis. If you are in the dark and the intruder cant see you, hearing that sound will definitely make him think twice.

I was at a gun shop in town a year or so ago and a couple were there looking for a home defense gun. There were maybe 10 of us in the store and it was a very small store. To make a point the salesman racked the gun, and everybody in the store, including the other salespeople, turned our heads to look as we put our hands on our sidearms. It's very intimidating. Besides, if someone breaks in in the middle of the night, they already know you are more than likely in the bedrooms.

Exactly...
I would not doubt that a sound could scare a perp...but...
I aint "racking" schit. I doubt seriously that LEO ever had anyone break into his home. Ill remain quiet... hidden and blow his mofoing ass away from about 3 feet away.
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(02-07-2015 01:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  you're such an idiot...

I was taught that by a police officer, teaching my carry permit class, at Memphis' largest, nicest facility.





I'll take the advice of a 25 year LEO over your personal opinion, thanks...OP, ignore idiot Houston fans...

It's pretty common for "hacks" to recommend racking a shotgun to (I guess) scare off the bad guy. Guys that do more typing than shooting, and just regurgitate myths. These are the same guys that call magazines "clips", think 9mm is trash and say dumb sh*t like "Give me 5 rounds of 45acp over 15 rounds of 9mm any day.", etc. If your 25 year veteran LEO friend recommends racking a slide as a means of protecting yourself, I'd venture to say that he probably never even as much as drew his weapon in his career.

I didn't know this video existed whenever I stated the (what should be obvious) case that you shouldn't (how Yeager puts it) "take an unloaded gun to a gun fight", but here's a video on home defense shotgun myths vs. reality. It should address the "Get a shotgun, you don't have to aim" myth that was stated earlier in this thread, as well.

Note: James Yeager is quite controversial in his demeanor, but there should be no arguing that he knows his sh*t. So save it. There are countless other videos on Youtube of ex military, police, instructors, etc. saying the exact, same thing, I just went with Yeager's because it covers a lot of what is mentioned in this thread, and is quick and to the point.

Let's put your pride aside (it obviously took a hit there, since you were so quick to call me an idiot), and just make sure the OP has some sound advice.



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What's wrong with the word "clip" for "magazine"?
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(02-07-2015 08:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  What's wrong with the word "clip" for "magazine"?

They are not the same thing. Magazines have springs. Clips do just what the name implies; they clip rounds together and that is all they do.

As far as racking a shotgun to scare a home invader, thankfully I live in a state that respects my rights as a human being to defend myself and my family. I do not need to give a warning and in a combat situation I see no benefit to me by giving one. The intruder will be lucky to even know he is dead.
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Fo, depending on where you are, shooting without accessing the danger could get you in hot water.

Nobody wants to have to use a gun in self defense. Thankfully I've never had to pull the trigger, but i have had to pull my gun at 5 am and put it two inches from a guys nose as he was coming in my window. Im sure there are both side to thw argument in regards to whether or not the sound of a shotgun is a viable deterrent or not. I do know one thing though. I'd take that sound as a more credible threat than a shaky voice telling me they had a gun if i were a thief.

Sound advise is what the OP is going to get in a handgun or self defense course, and it certainly won't include "staying hidden and blow his mofoing ass away from about 3 feet away".
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(02-07-2015 08:46 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Fo, depending on where you are, shooting without accessing the danger could get you in hot water.

Get a tac light put on the end of your gun. Whether or not you use it, it looks good in court.
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(02-07-2015 08:51 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 08:46 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Fo, depending on where you are, shooting without accessing the danger could get you in hot water.

Get a tac light put on the end of your gun. Whether or not you use it, it looks good in court.

I've told this story before and now seems to be a good time to repeat it:

My brother-in-law used to be a state trooper or something like that in NJ. He said if a bad guy ever walks into my house and I'm really afraid that I should put a shot into him and then yell as loud as I can so my neighbors hear me "that's the only warning shot you're going to get, the next one goes into you" and then put one into the ceiling.
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(02-07-2015 09:07 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 08:51 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 08:46 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Fo, depending on where you are, shooting without accessing the danger could get you in hot water.

Get a tac light put on the end of your gun. Whether or not you use it, it looks good in court.

I've told this story before and now seems to be a good time to repeat it:

My brother-in-law used to be a state trooper or something like that in NJ. He said if a bad guy ever walks into my house and I'm really afraid that I should put a shot into him and then yell as loud as I can so my neighbors hear me "that's the only warning shot you're going to get, the next one goes into you" and then put one into the ceiling.

No lie, my concealed carry instructor said rule number one is to make sure there's only one side to the story if there was any doubt about wheter or not you should have pulled the trigger.
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(02-07-2015 08:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  What's wrong with the word "clip" for "magazine"?

Clips are used to load magazines.

The origination of the confusion started in WWII whenever servicemen would load their M1 Garands with "en bloc" clips. Since all they did was insert them into the rifle and they would pop out on the last round (anyone that's ever watched a WWII movie knows the "ping!"), they began to be mistaken for one another. That's why so many old timers get their jimmies in a bunch over that issue, and think the differentiation is stupid.

M1 Garands actually have internal magazines, and they were loading that magazine with their clips.
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(02-07-2015 01:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 01:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-07-2015 12:39 AM)Kronke Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 06:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  a shotgun is the absolute best in home security...

if you think you hear someone in your home, just stand in your bedroom doorway, and co(k (< lol, word filter) the gun...it will clear a house quickly.

I have a Sig P229 .40 Caliber handgun, and it's great.

It was always going to be UofM that gave the first, bad piece of advice in this thread, wasn't it?

OP, the above is the one thing you don't want to do. Racking a shotgun isn't going to scare the meth head out of your house, all it's going to do is give away exactly where you are. PLEASE do not follow this advice.

you're such an idiot...

I was taught that by a police officer, teaching my carry permit class, at Memphis' largest, nicest facility.





I'll take the advice of a 25 year LEO over your personal opinion, thanks...OP, ignore idiot Houston fans...

Gotta go with you on this one Memphis. If you are in the dark and the intruder cant see you, hearing that sound will definitely make him think twice.

I was at a gun shop in town a year or so ago and a couple were there looking for a home defense gun. There were maybe 10 of us in the store and it was a very small store. To make a point the salesman racked the gun, and everybody in the store, including the other salespeople, turned our heads to look as we put our hands on our sidearms. It's very intimidating. Besides, if someone breaks in in the middle of the night, they already know you are more than likely in the bedrooms.

Who are you?? You claim to have been "in a gun shop " with a weapon?? Please tell, what type of weapon did you have on your person? Please tell ?
Plus you're in a gun shop , Why would the racking of a shotgun freak you out???? This reeks of an uneducated person with zero experience around firearms or gun shops. !!!! No credibility on the subject !!!


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(02-07-2015 08:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  What's wrong with the word "clip" for "magazine"?

Clip refers to a stripper clip. Magazine is completely different. Are you using an M1 Garande?
Circa 1942??



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