Statement by Muslim leader in Norway


http://www.mrctv.org/videos/norwegian-is...omosexuals

Imam Kerry unavailable for comment.

Quote:Fahad Qureshi, who founded Islam Net and is considered an Islamic leader in Norway, told a large group of Sunni Muslims that, contrary to media claims that it is only “radicals” and “extremists” who support barbaric punishments for those who violate sharia, regular Muslims support such things, including the “death penalty for homosexuals” and “stoning for adultery.”

“Every now and then, every time we have a conference, every time we invite a speaker, they [the media] always come with the same accusations: This speaker supports the death penalty for homosexuals, this speaker supports the death penalty for this crime or this crime or that he is homophobic, that he subjugates women, etcetera,” said Qureshi in a video posted by the Middle East Memory Research Institute (MEMRI).

“We always try to tell them,” he continued, “I always try to tell them that it is not that speaker that we are inviting who has these ‘extreme radical views,’ as you say. These are general views that every Muslim actually has.”

“Every Muslim believes in these things,” said Qureshi at the Nov. 7, 2013 conference. “Just because they are not telling you about it, or just because they are not out there in the media, doesn’t mean that they don’t believe in them.”

Qureshi then asked the attendees to raise their hands if they agreed with certain points about Islam and the Quran.

“I will ask you, everyone in the room: How many of you are normal Muslims – you’re not extremists, you’re not radical – just normal Sunni Muslims?” he said. “Please, raise your hands. Everybody [raised their hands], with the grace of God. Okay, take down your hands.”

http://cnsnews.com/node/883313

Please. Islam isn't a monolith. There are good and bad. On the whole, Islamic societies aren't as good on LGBT rights as non-Islamic societies, but its not a hard and fast rule.

I'll give you a couple of examples

Jordan > Jamaica
Bahrain > Russia
Turkey > Cameroon
Lebanon > Belize
Palestinian Authority (West Bank) > Nigeria

Egypt = Uganda
Libya = Kenya
Morocco = Ghana
UAE = Tanzania
Malaysia = Malawi

Every single Muslim member of the US House and the British House of Parliament votes in favor of LGBT rights. Every. single. last. one.

I felt really bad for the two gay guys that they pushed off that building. Nobody deserves to die simply for who they're attracted to. It might be gross to many of us, but it doesn't warrant killing or abusing them.

Tom I'm getting tired of you and your high and mighty ways. Quit talking down to us. ERC knows Exactly what is meant here and you don't. ALL Muslims are dirty scoundrels. Open your eyes.

(02-05-2015 05:27 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Tom I'm getting tired of you and your high and mighty ways. Quit talking down to us. ERC knows Exactly what is meant here and you don't. ALL Muslims are dirty scoundrels. Open your eyes.

Especially that Barack Sotero Hussein Nobama...LOL.

(02-05-2015 05:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 05:27 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Tom I'm getting tired of you and your high and mighty ways. Quit talking down to us. ERC knows Exactly what is meant here and you don't. ALL Muslims are dirty scoundrels. Open your eyes.

Especially that Barack Sotero Hussein Nobama...LOL.

Yep...he's one of them. I have proof!

(02-05-2015 05:26 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  I felt really bad for the two gay guys that they pushed off that building. Nobody deserves to die simply for who they're attracted to. It might be gross to many of us, but it doesn't warrant killing or abusing them.

All humans should be appalled by the brazen murder of those guys. One of them survived the fall and then was stoned to death by the Salafist mob. Its a tragedy, but really isn't representative of Islam (it is, representative of Salafism and ISIS).

ISIS is Salafist. Saudi Arabia is Wahhabist. Those are pretty much awful groups. No argument here. Also, there's a difference between Muslims that follow a moderate interpretation of the Koran, and those that follow a hard core interpretation of the Hadith.

Islam has divisions that go well beyond Sunni and Shiite. Its every bit as diverse as Christianity.

My favorite Islamic moment. A couple of years back I was in a Gay bar in Istanbul Turkey. It had a female bathroom attendant. A female of advanced age wearing the niqab with white gloves (not drag, she was really female). She was smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer. I was like "you go Grandmom". And fellows, if you think Moonshine gives you bad hangovers, don't even think about trading toasts of Arak (Middle Eastern rotgut).

You can't pick a less important topic as it pertain to Islam, or even in the West.

This topic is one a vocal minority throw around. It's not an issue of consequence to anybody.

The idea that normal people have a seething hatred for homosexuals is a fabrication of the worst sort.

It evidently is important to that Muslim leader in Norway. I love how you lib's duck and dodge on Islam.

(02-05-2015 06:54 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  It evidently is important to that Muslim leader in Norway. I love how you lib's duck and dodge on Islam.

He's an idiot.

I lived in Europe for years (albeit in the Netherlands, not Norway) and there are issues with some members of the Muslim community, but it isn't all of them.

(02-05-2015 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 06:54 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  It evidently is important to that Muslim leader in Norway. I love how you lib's duck and dodge on Islam.

He's an idiot.

I lived in Europe for years (albeit in the Netherlands, not Norway) and there are issues with some members of the Muslim community, but it isn't all of them.

But it is with the Muslim leader quoted. Is it not?

(02-05-2015 07:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 06:54 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  It evidently is important to that Muslim leader in Norway. I love how you lib's duck and dodge on Islam.

He's an idiot.

I lived in Europe for years (albeit in the Netherlands, not Norway) and there are issues with some members of the Muslim community, but it isn't all of them.

But it is with the Muslim leader quoted. Is it not?

He's an idiot. Just because he's quoted in a news source not known for its even handed coverage as a "Muslim leader", doesn't mean he actually speaks for immigrants of Muslim heritage in Norway. I'm sure there are some that aren't pro-Gay, and there are probably a few that wish Gay persons harm, but that doesn't mean that one should assume or popularize the concept that all Muslims should be seen as monolithic anti-Gay thugs. That's really not the experience of many Gays in Europe. To be honest, the most violence against Gays in Europe (and the greatest physical threat) actually comes from pseudo/Orthodox-Christians in Eastern Europe, not from Muslim immigrants to Western Europe.

Obviously, the imam should be monitored, and possibly deported.

(02-05-2015 07:07 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 06:54 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  It evidently is important to that Muslim leader in Norway. I love how you lib's duck and dodge on Islam.

He's an idiot.

I lived in Europe for years (albeit in the Netherlands, not Norway) and there are issues with some members of the Muslim community, but it isn't all of them.

But it is with the Muslim leader quoted. Is it not?

He's an idiot. Just because he's quoted in a news source not known for its even handed coverage as a "Muslim leader", doesn't mean he actually speaks for immigrants of Muslim heritage in Norway. I'm sure there are some that aren't pro-Gay, and there are probably a few that wish Gay persons harm, but that doesn't mean that one should assume or popularize the concept that all Muslims should be seen as monolithic anti-Gay thugs. That's really not the experience of many Gays in Europe. To be honest, the most violence against Gays in Europe (and the greatest physical threat) actually comes from pseudo/Orthodox-Christians in Eastern Europe, not from Muslim immigrants to Western Europe.

Obviously, the imam should be monitored, and possibly deported.

But evidently the Libs here believe Pat Robertson speaks for all Christians.

(02-05-2015 07:22 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:07 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 06:54 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  It evidently is important to that Muslim leader in Norway. I love how you lib's duck and dodge on Islam.

He's an idiot.

I lived in Europe for years (albeit in the Netherlands, not Norway) and there are issues with some members of the Muslim community, but it isn't all of them.

But it is with the Muslim leader quoted. Is it not?

He's an idiot. Just because he's quoted in a news source not known for its even handed coverage as a "Muslim leader", doesn't mean he actually speaks for immigrants of Muslim heritage in Norway. I'm sure there are some that aren't pro-Gay, and there are probably a few that wish Gay persons harm, but that doesn't mean that one should assume or popularize the concept that all Muslims should be seen as monolithic anti-Gay thugs. That's really not the experience of many Gays in Europe. To be honest, the most violence against Gays in Europe (and the greatest physical threat) actually comes from pseudo/Orthodox-Christians in Eastern Europe, not from Muslim immigrants to Western Europe.

Obviously, the imam should be monitored, and possibly deported.

But evidently the Libs here believe Pat Robertson speaks for all Christians.

Actually, Pat Robertson founded the Christian Coalition political movement, so there's something to that (albeit a stretch). He won primaries - for President of the United States. There's no evidence that this imam has any significant following.

(02-05-2015 05:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Please. Islam isn't a monolith. There are good and bad. On the whole, Islamic societies aren't as good on LGBT rights as non-Islamic societies, but its not a hard and fast rule.

I'll give you a couple of examples

Jordan > Jamaica
Bahrain > Russia
Turkey > Cameroon
Lebanon > Belize
Palestinian Authority (West Bank) > Nigeria

Egypt = Uganda
Libya = Kenya
Morocco = Ghana
UAE = Tanzania
Malaysia = Malawi

Every single Muslim member of the US House and the British House of Parliament votes in favor of LGBT rights. Every. single. last. one.

Says the moron that equates gay marriage laws with slavery.

(02-05-2015 07:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:22 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:07 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  He's an idiot.

I lived in Europe for years (albeit in the Netherlands, not Norway) and there are issues with some members of the Muslim community, but it isn't all of them.

But it is with the Muslim leader quoted. Is it not?

He's an idiot. Just because he's quoted in a news source not known for its even handed coverage as a "Muslim leader", doesn't mean he actually speaks for immigrants of Muslim heritage in Norway. I'm sure there are some that aren't pro-Gay, and there are probably a few that wish Gay persons harm, but that doesn't mean that one should assume or popularize the concept that all Muslims should be seen as monolithic anti-Gay thugs. That's really not the experience of many Gays in Europe. To be honest, the most violence against Gays in Europe (and the greatest physical threat) actually comes from pseudo/Orthodox-Christians in Eastern Europe, not from Muslim immigrants to Western Europe.

Obviously, the imam should be monitored, and possibly deported.

But evidently the Libs here believe Pat Robertson speaks for all Christians.

Actually, Pat Robertson founded the Christian Coalition political movement, so there's something to that (albeit a stretch). He won primaries - for President of the United States. There's no evidence that this imam has any significant following.

Thanks for proving once again how big of a hypocrit Libs are.

(02-05-2015 05:27 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Tom I'm getting tired of you and your high and mighty ways. Quit talking down to us. ERC knows Exactly what is meant here and you don't. ALL Muslims are dirty scoundrels. Open your eyes.

Epic sarcasm fail!! Shocking...

Wasn't there a poll that 40% of all Middle Eastern Muslims support ISIS?

Even though a majority do NOT support ISIS, 40% is a huge number.

Im pretty sure the King of Jordan is a Muslim so there's that.... BUT i do think that a large number of these folks are violence loving sociopaths.

(02-05-2015 07:40 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 05:27 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Tom I'm getting tired of you and your high and mighty ways. Quit talking down to us. ERC knows Exactly what is meant here and you don't. ALL Muslims are dirty scoundrels. Open your eyes.

Epic sarcasm fail!! Shocking...

They can't defeat ERC's threads so they take the typical lib approach of trying to demean him and make fun of him. He no doubt is getting a good laugh out of it. Libs are so predictable.