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RE: Obama attempts to deflect from ISIS killing by comparing to Crusades
Sadly...The Crusades left Muslims alive.
02-06-2015 10:07 AM
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RE: Obama attempts to deflect from ISIS killing by comparing to Crusades
(02-06-2015 10:07 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Sadly...The Crusades left Muslims alive.

But not a lot of women and children. Again, it happened, loooooooong ago. I no way does it impact the present, at least in regard to stopping ISIS.
02-06-2015 11:09 AM
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RE: Obama attempts to deflect from ISIS killing by comparing to Crusades
Another strategy authorized by Mohammad, when losing enter into peace agreements you have absolutely no intentions of honoring for the purpose of re-building and re-arming. Lie to the infidels 'till you are strong enough to get back to killing them.
02-06-2015 11:14 AM
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RE: Obama attempts to deflect from ISIS killing by comparing to Crusades
This empty suit plainly has contempt for the USA or Military and our way of life. He hates Christianity and is a full blown Marxist!

And to bring up slavery and Jim Crow,... he is an idiot. Moochelle's own kind sold her ancestors into slavery , probably to a Dutchman, Portuguese or Spaniard or Brit. Wonder he didn't bring up Ferguson and Trayvon as well!! What a dolt this cat is.
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02-06-2015 07:22 PM
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RE: Obama attempts to deflect from ISIS killing by comparing to Crusades
Psst, Mr. President? The Real History Of The Crusades – A Defensive War

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By the time of the Crusades, Muslims had already captured 2/3 of the Christian world.

This piece, from 2002, after 9/11, notes Bill Clinton seemingly trying to justify Islamic terrorist behavior by reaching back to the Crusades, just as President Obama seemed to do yesterday at the National Prayer Breakfast.

Quote:With the possible exception of Umberto Eco, medieval scholars are not used to getting much media attention. We tend to be a quiet lot (except during the annual bacchanalia we call the International Congress on Medieval Studies in Kalamazoo, Michigan, of all places), poring over musty chronicles and writing dull yet meticulous studies that few will read. Imagine, then, my surprise when within days of the September 11 attacks, the Middle Ages suddenly became relevant.

As a Crusade historian, I found the tranquil solitude of the ivory tower shattered by journalists, editors, and talk-show hosts on tight deadlines eager to get the real scoop. What were the Crusades?, they asked. When were they? Just how insensitive was President George W. Bush for using the word “crusade” in his remarks? With a few of my callers I had the distinct impression that they already knew the answers to their questions, or at least thought they did. What they really wanted was an expert to say it all back to them. For example, I was frequently asked to comment on the fact that the Islamic world has a just grievance against the West. Doesn’t the present violence, they persisted, have its roots in the Crusades’ brutal and unprovoked attacks against a sophisticated and tolerant Muslim world? In other words, aren’t the Crusades really to blame?

Osama bin Laden certainly thinks so. In his various video performances, he never fails to describe the American war against terrorism as a new Crusade against Islam. Ex-president Bill Clinton has also fingered the Crusades as the root cause of the present conflict. In a speech at Georgetown University, he recounted (and embellished) a massacre of Jews after the Crusader conquest of Jerusalem in 1099 and informed his audience that the episode was still bitterly remembered in the Middle East. (Why Islamist terrorists should be upset about the killing of Jews was not explained.) Clinton took a beating on the nation’s editorial pages for wanting so much to blame the United States that he was willing to reach back to the Middle Ages. Yet no one disputed the ex-president’s fundamental premise.

Well, almost no one. Many historians had been trying to set the record straight on the Crusades long before Clinton discovered them. They are not revisionists, like the American historians who manufactured the Enola Gay exhibit, but mainstream scholars offering the fruit of several decades of very careful, very serious scholarship. For them, this is a “teaching moment,” an opportunity to explain the Crusades while people are actually listening. It won’t last long, so here goes.

http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/l...ecnum=4461
02-06-2015 07:34 PM
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RE: Obama attempts to deflect from ISIS killing by comparing to Crusades
Jindal: Mr. President, Medieval Christian Threat Is Under Control, Take Care Of Radical Islamic Threat Today!





Love Jindal’s sarcasm!

Of course, Obama being Obama can’t even get the history right, since the Crusades were a defensive war after hundreds of years of Muslim attacks. He also had the nerve to call Boko Haram a ‘sectarian war’, completely ignoring the Islamic aspect of it. But excuse us, for getting on our “high horse”…

Quote:Bobby Jindal on Friday released a statement responding to the president’s remarks on Thursday at the National Prayer Breakfast in which he cautioned Americans from getting on a “high horse” when taking a stance against radical Islam because people have committed “terrible deeds” in the name of Christianity, too.

“It was nice of the President to give us a history lesson at the Prayer breakfast,” Jindal said. “Today, however, the issue right in front of his nose, in the here and now, is the terrorism of Radical Islam, the assassination of journalists, the beheading and burning alive of captives. We will be happy to keep an eye out for runaway Christians, but it would be nice if he would face the reality of the situation today. The Medieval Christian threat is under control, Mr. President. Please deal with the Radical Islamic threat today.”

Jindal, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, caused a stir on a recent trip to London when he assailed so-called “no go” zones and, in subsequent remarks both in Europe and in the U.S., insisted on the importance of assimilation among immigrants.

“You’ve got people who want to come to our country but not adopt our values,” the Louisiana governor told CNN last month, calling the idea ”dangerous.”

Expect this to be a major theme of a Jindal presidential campaign, if and when it gets off the ground.

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More justified criticisms and beat downs on the POTUS that is clueless, desperate and determined to defend Islam at all costs....

Quote:Leading Evangelist Franklin Graham took to Facebook on Thursday to respond to President Barack Obama's implication at the National Prayer Breakfast that ISIS' brutality abuse of religious minorities in Iraq and Syria is similar to that of Christian brutality over 1,000 years ago.

"Today at the National Prayer Breakfast, the President implied that what ISIS is doing is equivalent to what happened over 1000 years ago during the Crusades and the Inquisition," Graham wrote. "Mr. President — Many people in history have used the name of Jesus Christ to accomplish evil things for their own desires. But Jesus taught peace, love and forgiveness."

Graham further wrote that unlike Jesus, who lived His life without sin, Mohammed took many innocent lives.

"[Jesus] came to give His life for the sins of mankind, not to take life. Mohammad on the contrary was a warrior and killed many innocent people," Graham asserted. "True followers of Christ emulate Christ — true followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed."

Outspoken Christian and a leading social conservative activist Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, also criticized Obama for his easy willingness to condemn Christian brutality but inability to acknowledge terrorist ties to Islam.

Perkins told Fox News' Megyn Kelly that he thinks the president squandered a chance to bring more awareness to the lives of people currently being oppressed by Muslim oppressors, which currently includes an American citizen.

"What we have here is the president refusing to acknowledge that Islam and that ideology that is behind it that has been radicalized is being used to kill Christians," Perkins said. "This was a great opportunity for the president to draw attention to the genocide that is happening in the Middle East at the hands of Islam. This was a great opportunity for pastor Saeed Abedini, he could have used this opportunity to demand that Iran release him and send him home."
http://www.christianpost.com/news/frankl...le-133714/
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The outrage continues from Marine corps veteran and minister E.W. Jackson...

Quote: The founder of StandAmerica, Bishop E. W. Jackson, told Elizabeth Hasselbeck on Friday morning’s Fox and Friends that he had a message for President Obama:

I have a message for the president with all due respect to him and to the office: Mr. President, if you don’t want to give terrorists a recruitment’s tool, instead of closing Guantanamo Bay, frankly sir, you ought to close your mouth. Because you just gave them a gigantic propaganda tool. They called us ‘crusaders’ and you just confirmed it.

The Bishop went on to slam President Obama for defending Islam over American Christians.

Mr. President, we’re not on our ‘high horse.’ What we are is on high alert. And the American people would like for once, to know that you are willing to defend Christianity and defend America instead of defending Islam.

The veteran Marine explained when and why the Crusades were conducted:

I would remind the president that the Crusades began in 1096 as a response to Islamic aggression and the fact that they had conquered the Holy Land and they were oppressing Eastern Christians. And there was a response to that. So, if the president is even going to cite that as an example, then he ought to get his history complete.

Bishop Jackson called out Obama for not using the words “Radical Islam.”

This president does everything he possibly can to defend Islam and does almost nothing to defend the honor of this country. And yes, once again, he’s giving them exactly what they want. And you know, Elizabeth, they’re laughing at us because all they see it as, is a sign of weakness. And America needs to operate from strength.

Jackson concluded his comments with a strong message to Christians:

Pray for our president. I think he’s deeply misguided and confused. Pray for our country. We need leaders who will defend the integrity of our nation.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/bishop-...7KFO3VD.97



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Proving once again that Obama is the smartest man in the room because he's the only person in the room. Friggin idiot he is.


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(02-07-2015 03:08 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Proving once again that Obama is the smartest man in the room because he's the only person in the room. Friggin idiot he is.


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That is probably the most fair comparison you can make.

Great post
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(02-06-2015 11:09 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 10:07 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Sadly...The Crusades left Muslims alive.

But not a lot of women and children. Again, it happened, loooooooong ago. I no way does it impact the present, at least in regard to stopping ISIS.

really?

how long have 'they been at battle?'

why do they battle?

I am continually amazed at what people perceive......
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