I could really get behind libertarians on many issues, BUT it seems like every one of them has some whacko position.

Why?

What are examples of wacko Libertarian positions?

Rand's daddy, Ron Paul is wacko nut job as well.

(02-03-2015 08:20 PM)miko33 Wrote:  What are examples of wacko Libertarian positions?

For starters they believe we should legalize all drugs. Another example is Ron Paul voting against the SAFE act.

Then there's quotes like this...

Quote:On January 28, The Future of Freedom Foundation (FFF) vice president, Sheldon Richman, reacted to American Sniper by writing that Chris Kyle “was no hero” and that he really couldn’t see a difference between Kyle’s actions and those of Adam Lanza.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2...dam-lanza/

I could go on and on. It's mostly "one off" type of stuff and not necessarily the party position. The real problem is that it seems like a LOT of Libertarians have an element of crazy to them... the Alex Jones crowd. There was a good thread a while back on here that captured a lot of the crazy.

(02-03-2015 08:52 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(02-03-2015 08:20 PM)miko33 Wrote:  What are examples of wacko Libertarian positions?

For starters they believe we should legalize all drugs. Another example is Ron Paul voting against the SAFE act.

Then there's quotes like this...

Quote:On January 28, The Future of Freedom Foundation (FFF) vice president, Sheldon Richman, reacted to American Sniper by writing that Chris Kyle “was no hero” and that he really couldn’t see a difference between Kyle’s actions and those of Adam Lanza.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2...dam-lanza/

I could go on and on. It's mostly "one off" type of stuff and not necessarily the party position. The real problem is that it seems like a LOT of Libertarians have an element of crazy to them... the Alex Jones crowd. There was a good thread a while back on here that captured a lot of the crazy.

Truthfully, Anyone wanting to be a "World leader figure" has to be slightly Crazy to start with.

(02-03-2015 08:52 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(02-03-2015 08:20 PM)miko33 Wrote:  What are examples of wacko Libertarian positions?

For starters they believe we should legalize all drugs. Another example is Ron Paul voting against the SAFE act.

Then there's quotes like this...

Quote:On January 28, The Future of Freedom Foundation (FFF) vice president, Sheldon Richman, reacted to American Sniper by writing that Chris Kyle “was no hero” and that he really couldn’t see a difference between Kyle’s actions and those of Adam Lanza.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2...dam-lanza/

I could go on and on. It's mostly "one off" type of stuff and not necessarily the party position. The real problem is that it seems like a LOT of Libertarians have an element of crazy to them... the Alex Jones crowd. There was a good thread a while back on here that captured a lot of the crazy.

OK, but Ron Paul voting against the SAFE act is not unusual or wacky. Trying to get the gov't out of housing is probably his intent. Consider you have Freddie and Fannie being run by incompetents, so how could adding more gov't oversight into the housing mess help? While I don't want to begrudge anyone from buying a home or losing it, I don't want the gov't propping up sectors of the industry that will have to go through a correction sooner or later anyways.

That is because the ideology is pretty extreme by nature, not in the same way as communism or that those who believe in it are extremist but because it is an on-off type of thing.

I am in no way a libertarian.

(02-04-2015 11:27 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That is because the ideology is pretty extreme by nature, not in the same way as communism or that those who believe in it are extremist but because it is an on-off type of thing.

I am in no way a libertarian.

If you mean it's extreme in that most governmental systems throughout human history has tended to exert significant control over the populations, then I suppose libertarianism (classical liberalism) is extreme. Our founding fathers were extreme, because at that time it was extreme to believe that the rule of law was a mandate from heaven bestowed upon royalty instead of on the people because man has inalienable rights.

Even today, we have a quasi-nobility today. Senators and representatives who stay in office for 20, 30, 40 years AND even passed on to their children. This doesn't happen in the classic sense of inheritance, but it does happen based on the power and influence a number of political families garner due to how the system is set up today.