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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
Does anyone know where I can find the all time record of NIU vs IU? I am an NIU alum and my wife is an IU alum. I showed her this article last night and we both chuckled. Obviously the IU and NIU programs are in much different places right now and my wife also reminded me IU has 5 national championship banners. I would like to know the all time record against IU.
Any help?
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 10:15 AM)beachboy Wrote: (02-04-2015 09:42 AM)huskiebob Wrote: (02-04-2015 09:29 AM)beachboy Wrote: (02-04-2015 07:11 AM)huskiebob Wrote: (02-04-2015 12:15 AM)niu79 Wrote: You are referring to Ray Clark. I believe that boycott occurred in the 1980-81 season. Supposedly there was an administrator behind the scenes that wanted the coach fired, and this was his brainchild. His attempt failed, but a year later after NIU made its first appearance in the NCAA, the three best returning African Americans on the team transferred out - Jon Collins to Eastern Illinois, Leonard Hayes to St. Peter's in New Jersey, and Keith Gray to junior college.
The administrator behind the boycott and the attempt to get John McDougall fired was Deacon Davis. Davis was also the founder of the CHANCE program at NIU and a colleague of Eddie Williams. Despite the boycott and missing several of its best players, NIU won on the road at CMU. Davis then prevailed on the administration to allow the boycotting players to return to the team.
The situation with national anthem was that the African American spectators in the stands at Evans refused to stand for the playing of the anthem.
That incident occurred the same day the athletic board cut baseball and track, and I believe Deacon Davis was demoted. Not only did people in that section not stand for the anthem, but they booed Allen Rayhorn, who was being honored on Senior Night (he was the only senior scholarship player) then several sat on the court before the second half began. Pretty insane day. Postscript? NIU ended up winning the game and (improbably) the MAC Tournament to qualify for the the school's first NCAA Tournament. Back then there were 48 teams.
Good recap, although it was next year (1981-82) that the Huskies made it to the Dance.
The walkout took place in 1980-81, when the Huskies lost to Ball State in the MAC Tournament final. The sports cuts, Davis demotion and game disruption were in 1981-82, when NIU defeated Ball State to win the MAC tournament. Later that night a few of us nearly got into a fight with some sore loser Ball State fans at an Ann Arbor tavern. The good old days ...
Yeah, great memories of those years! The bizarre thing about the 1980-81 season was that NIU finished the regular season in a FIVE-WAY tie for 1st place. Tiebreaker rules had the Huskies #5 of the five 1st place teams. We had to go to BG for the first round game and beat the Falcons soundly to advance to Ann Arbor.
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 10:47 AM)huskiebob Wrote: (02-04-2015 10:15 AM)beachboy Wrote: (02-04-2015 09:42 AM)huskiebob Wrote: (02-04-2015 09:29 AM)beachboy Wrote: (02-04-2015 07:11 AM)huskiebob Wrote: The administrator behind the boycott and the attempt to get John McDougall fired was Deacon Davis. Davis was also the founder of the CHANCE program at NIU and a colleague of Eddie Williams. Despite the boycott and missing several of its best players, NIU won on the road at CMU. Davis then prevailed on the administration to allow the boycotting players to return to the team.
The situation with national anthem was that the African American spectators in the stands at Evans refused to stand for the playing of the anthem.
That incident occurred the same day the athletic board cut baseball and track, and I believe Deacon Davis was demoted. Not only did people in that section not stand for the anthem, but they booed Allen Rayhorn, who was being honored on Senior Night (he was the only senior scholarship player) then several sat on the court before the second half began. Pretty insane day. Postscript? NIU ended up winning the game and (improbably) the MAC Tournament to qualify for the the school's first NCAA Tournament. Back then there were 48 teams.
Good recap, although it was next year (1981-82) that the Huskies made it to the Dance.
The walkout took place in 1980-81, when the Huskies lost to Ball State in the MAC Tournament final. The sports cuts, Davis demotion and game disruption were in 1981-82, when NIU defeated Ball State to win the MAC tournament. Later that night a few of us nearly got into a fight with some sore loser Ball State fans at an Ann Arbor tavern. The good old days ...
Yeah, great memories of those years! The bizarre thing about the 1980-81 season was that NIU finished the regular season in a FIVE-WAY tie for 1st place. Tiebreaker rules had the Huskies #5 of the five 1st place teams. We had to go to BG for the first round game and beat the Falcons soundly to advance to Ann Arbor.
The 80-81 Huskies were true road warriors. They won at Central Michigan with 7 or 8 players when Rayhorn hit a baseline jumper for 3-point range. Then they knocked off a terrific BG team and annoying coach John Weinert in Bowling Green for that 1st-round tourney victory. I don't think Leonard Hayes missed a shot that night. Unfortunately he transferred after the 81-82 season.
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
Just think if Brad Waller had been on that team! They were a fun bunch to watch.
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
Yes, Waller would've been nice. But Hayes, Jon Collins and Tim Dillon certainly could shoot the rock.
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 10:38 AM)Mark26pt2 Wrote: Does anyone know where I can find the all time record of NIU vs IU? I am an NIU alum and my wife is an IU alum. I showed her this article last night and we both chuckled. Obviously the IU and NIU programs are in much different places right now and my wife also reminded me IU has 5 national championship banners. I would like to know the all time record against IU.
Any help?
Ha, I tried sports reference, but that only goes back to 79-80, and I guess Indiana and NIU haven't played since then.
On page 29 of this years media guide, I find that NIU is 1-3 all time against the Hoosiers, but all of them good games:
12.02.67 Bloomington L 65-71
12.01.69 Bloomington L 81-89
02.01.71 Bloomington L 112-113
01.04.72 DeKalb W 85-71
I guess Bobby learned his lesson.
Kansas State also stopped playing NIU after the Huskies had that nice win in 2005.
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 03:00 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote: $8 for a tire! Hot damn!
Holy crap, NIU had 4 guys shoot over 50% in 1971. And it was the four guys with the most shots on the team. LORD.
Dr. Nuber was on NIU Dream Team.
He is also the orthopedic surgeon for the Chicago Bears. When someone gets hurt, he is the tall skinny guy walking onto the field to checkout the player.
Dr. Gordon Nuber is a Board Certified orthopaedic surgeon, concentrating on sports related and traumatic injuries to the knee, shoulder, and elbow. His areas of special interest are ACL Reconstruction, arthroscopy in the treatment of knee and shoulder injuries including meniscal tears, rotator cuff and labral tears. He is currently on staff at NorthShore University HealthSystem, Northwestern Memorial Hospital and River North Same Day Surgical Center.
http://www.northwesternorthopaedicinstit...ofile.html
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 12:04 PM)beachboy Wrote: Yes, Waller would've been nice. But Hayes, Jon Collins and Tim Dillon certainly could shoot the rock.
That 1981-82 team had a nice inside-out game with Rayhorn, Dillon, Hayes and Collins. And, Keith Gray, who was a skywalker!
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 12:29 PM)huskiebob Wrote: (02-04-2015 12:04 PM)beachboy Wrote: Yes, Waller would've been nice. But Hayes, Jon Collins and Tim Dillon certainly could shoot the rock.
That 1981-82 team had a nice inside-out game with Rayhorn, Dillon, Hayes and Collins. And, Keith Gray, who was a skywalker!
They certainly did. Gray could leap like Jordan. And being there to see the Huskies beat Ball State to qualify for the NCAAs was just as good as any of the MACC wins in football.
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 12:25 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote: (02-04-2015 10:38 AM)Mark26pt2 Wrote: Does anyone know where I can find the all time record of NIU vs IU? I am an NIU alum and my wife is an IU alum. I showed her this article last night and we both chuckled. Obviously the IU and NIU programs are in much different places right now and my wife also reminded me IU has 5 national championship banners. I would like to know the all time record against IU.
Any help?
Ha, I tried sports reference, but that only goes back to 79-80, and I guess Indiana and NIU haven't played since then.
On page 29 of this years media guide, I find that NIU is 1-3 all time against the Hoosiers, but all of them good games:
12.02.67 Bloomington L 65-71
12.01.69 Bloomington L 81-89
02.01.71 Bloomington L 112-113
01.04.72 DeKalb W 85-71
I guess Bobby learned his lesson.
Kansas State also stopped playing NIU after the Huskies had that nice win in 2005.
Thank You
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 12:27 PM)NIU75 Wrote: (02-04-2015 03:00 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote: $8 for a tire! Hot damn!
Holy crap, NIU had 4 guys shoot over 50% in 1971. And it was the four guys with the most shots on the team. LORD.
Dr. Nuber was on NIU Dream Team.
He is also the orthopedic surgeon for the Chicago Bears. When someone gets hurt, he is the tall skinny guy walking onto the field to checkout the player.
Dr. Gordon Nuber is a Board Certified orthopaedic surgeon, concentrating on sports related and traumatic injuries to the knee, shoulder, and elbow. His areas of special interest are ACL Reconstruction, arthroscopy in the treatment of knee and shoulder injuries including meniscal tears, rotator cuff and labral tears. He is currently on staff at NorthShore University HealthSystem, Northwestern Memorial Hospital and River North Same Day Surgical Center.
http://www.northwesternorthopaedicinstit...ofile.html
Very interesting. And good for Nuber.
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
(02-04-2015 12:29 PM)huskiebob Wrote: (02-04-2015 12:04 PM)beachboy Wrote: Yes, Waller would've been nice. But Hayes, Jon Collins and Tim Dillon certainly could shoot the rock.
That 1981-82 team had a nice inside-out game with Rayhorn, Dillon, Hayes and Collins. And, Keith Gray, who was a skywalker!
I don't remember which year it was, but one year with Gray I'm pretty sure we lead the country in dunks. It sucked when Hayes transferred to Seton Hall. McDougal getting fired lead directly to Battle transferring to Illinois since the were both Aurora West guys.
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(02-04-2015 03:50 PM)Field Turf Wrote: (02-04-2015 12:29 PM)huskiebob Wrote: (02-04-2015 12:04 PM)beachboy Wrote: Yes, Waller would've been nice. But Hayes, Jon Collins and Tim Dillon certainly could shoot the rock.
That 1981-82 team had a nice inside-out game with Rayhorn, Dillon, Hayes and Collins. And, Keith Gray, who was a skywalker!
I don't remember which year it was, but one year with Gray I'm pretty sure we lead the country in dunks. It sucked when Hayes transferred to Seton Hall. McDougal getting fired lead directly to Battle transferring to Illinois since the were both Aurora West guys.
Leonard Hayes transferred to St. Peter's, located in Jersey City. I know this because my dad was a St. Peter's graduate and supporter.
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RE: NIU beats Indiana article 1/5/72
We also had Ross Kingsley on that team and he was a decent shooter. Ray Rhone and Shawn Thrower were sky kings too from the 80-81 team. One of the great road trips I took was with my roommate and his brother to the first MAC tournament at Crisler arena.
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(02-03-2015 02:26 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: (02-03-2015 02:16 PM)kschwi Wrote: (02-03-2015 01:45 PM)NIURedBlack Wrote: Several years ago when NIU had those "garage sales" during the Spring Football Game, my brother bought a framed photo from this game. I'll post it sometime it's pretty cool.
That would be very cool since in all probability there isn't any surviving video or audio of this game. Which raises a question: Does anyone know if NIU has saved or archived any of their old audio or video for football or basketball from the 70s or 80s?
This past summer media services did a huge digital backup of some archives which were getting moldy in some cardboard boxes in the field house...at least I think that is what they were doing with that stuff.
What are their plans for those archives and does anyone know if they contain any older material from the 1970s or 1980s?
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