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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-03-2015 07:24 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: (02-03-2015 04:03 PM)BE4evah Wrote: The UConn board has a bonafide insider. We frequently say anybody with some access is an insider. He is the real deal. His screen name is fishy. He has ties to the highest members of the university. There's no doubt that there is a lot going on in their athletic department.
This is what he wrote:
"6) I absolutely hate the AAC. I despise how they're selling us out to help the rest of the conference sell tickets on their Saturday dates and I hate how they are selling us out to fill gaps in weekend programming on Sundays. The defending champion just played a game 1,800 miles from campus in front of a dozen fans. You can hear the high-fives in Bristol, Syracuse and Chestnut Hill.
6) These are dangerous times for UConn athletics. If you want to see what happens when a program gets aced out of a major conference and has to make due in a mid-major league, take a look at Houston. They are the cautionary tale."
I know this sounds counter intuitive, but why should a university in the grand scheme of things care about football, basketball and sports so much? UConn is a great academic school. Much better than the the great majority in the Power 5. So is Boston University, UC Davis, UC San Diego. UConn had a great run in bb and an awesome decade in FBS (2000-2010). So what if they become on par athletically with UMass, URI, New Hampshire? The world doesn't end. There are loads of other sports teams out there. If you're into college football, you have the sleeping giant Rutgers, BC, Syracuse all to root for at the "power" level. I don't know if the previous poster is correct that there will be political and academic push back to the drain that athletics has on the school, but in the end, I wonder if it matters all that much?
UConn is a stronger academic school than a "great majority" of schools currently in the Power 5? Yeah, ok.....
Did you say that or did this supposed insider say it? That is a poor choice of descriptive words for whomever actually said that.
Just to be clear, the academic comments are mine. And yes, quite clearly, UConn is a stronger academic school than a great majority of P5 schools.
Without dithering too much on methodologies, suffice to say that if a college has students with better SAT scores and is more highly ranked in the gold standard of rankings (US News), it is more strong academically. Again, cold hard math of the intelligence of the student bodybody (SAT scores) plus the most widely used publication by administrators, prospective students, parents, and guidance counselors
says the following:
Thus, UConn is stronger academically than 60% of the P5:
ACC
NC State
Louisville
Florida State
Clemson
Syracuse
Virginia Tech
Big 12
Texas Tech
WVU
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
TCU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Big Ten
Iowa
Rutgers
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Nebraska
PAC 12
Utah
Oregon
Oregon State
Arizona State
Arizona
Washington State
Colorado
SEC
Alabama
Auburn
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Arkansas
Texas A&M
LSU
Missouri
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-03-2015 09:43 PM)BE4evah Wrote: (02-03-2015 07:24 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: (02-03-2015 04:03 PM)BE4evah Wrote: The UConn board has a bonafide insider. We frequently say anybody with some access is an insider. He is the real deal. His screen name is fishy. He has ties to the highest members of the university. There's no doubt that there is a lot going on in their athletic department.
This is what he wrote:
"6) I absolutely hate the AAC. I despise how they're selling us out to help the rest of the conference sell tickets on their Saturday dates and I hate how they are selling us out to fill gaps in weekend programming on Sundays. The defending champion just played a game 1,800 miles from campus in front of a dozen fans. You can hear the high-fives in Bristol, Syracuse and Chestnut Hill.
6) These are dangerous times for UConn athletics. If you want to see what happens when a program gets aced out of a major conference and has to make due in a mid-major league, take a look at Houston. They are the cautionary tale."
I know this sounds counter intuitive, but why should a university in the grand scheme of things care about football, basketball and sports so much? UConn is a great academic school. Much better than the the great majority in the Power 5. So is Boston University, UC Davis, UC San Diego. UConn had a great run in bb and an awesome decade in FBS (2000-2010). So what if they become on par athletically with UMass, URI, New Hampshire? The world doesn't end. There are loads of other sports teams out there. If you're into college football, you have the sleeping giant Rutgers, BC, Syracuse all to root for at the "power" level. I don't know if the previous poster is correct that there will be political and academic push back to the drain that athletics has on the school, but in the end, I wonder if it matters all that much?
UConn is a stronger academic school than a "great majority" of schools currently in the Power 5? Yeah, ok.....
Did you say that or did this supposed insider say it? That is a poor choice of descriptive words for whomever actually said that.
Just to be clear, the academic comments are mine. And yes, quite clearly, UConn is a stronger academic school than a great majority of P5 schools.
Without dithering too much on methodologies, suffice to say that if a college has students with better SAT scores and is more highly ranked in the gold standard of rankings (US News), it is more strong academically. Again, cold hard math of the intelligence of the student bodybody (SAT scores) plus the most widely used publication by administrators, prospective students, parents, and guidance counselors
says the following:
Thus, UConn is stronger academically than 60% of the P5:
ACC
NC State
Louisville
Florida State
Clemson
Syracuse
Virginia Tech
Big 12
Texas Tech
WVU
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
TCU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Big Ten
Iowa
Rutgers
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Nebraska
PAC 12
Utah
Oregon
Oregon State
Arizona State
Arizona
Washington State
Colorado
SEC
Alabama
Auburn
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Arkansas
Texas A&M
LSU
Missouri
According to US News ... UConn, SMU, and Syracuse are ranked #58, which places all three in the top 20% of FBS.
For you non-math majors, that means those three schools are better than 80%+ of the FBS schools.
(This post was last modified: 02-03-2015 10:58 PM by UConn-SMU.)
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
Oh so funny. I suppose it depends upon what you consider to be truly important and what you consider to be simple window dressing.
Enjoy your delusions. We certainly do.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-03-2015 11:15 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: Oh so funny. I suppose it depends upon what you consider to be truly important and what you consider to be simple window dressing.
Enjoy your delusions. We certainly do.
Do you ever add anything to these boards?
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He1nousOne
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-03-2015 11:18 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (02-03-2015 11:15 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: Oh so funny. I suppose it depends upon what you consider to be truly important and what you consider to be simple window dressing.
Enjoy your delusions. We certainly do.
Do you ever add anything to these boards?
I appreciate the fact that you appreciate the fact that I enjoy them. Thank you for that.
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02-04-2015 12:29 AM |
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
UConn's where they belong as far as I'm concerned. And for all the chest thumping they're doing about winning last year's title, it's worth pointing out that they did so with recruits they brought in while there was still a viable Big East conference. I'm still curious as to how long they're going to be able to sell last year's title to recruits and big time games against ECU and UCF on ESPN 8 (The Ocho!).
All BS aside, any UConn fan that doesn't think being stuck where they are in the American is going to have a major negative impact on their basketball moving forward is delusional as hell. The real problem for UConn is that there's schools that have more to offer other conferences than UConn has...
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-04-2015 07:14 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote: UConn's where they belong as far as I'm concerned. And for all the chest thumping they're doing about winning last year's title, it's worth pointing out that they did so with recruits they brought in while there was still a viable Big East conference. I'm still curious as to how long they're going to be able to sell last year's title to recruits and big time games against ECU and UCF on ESPN 8 (The Ocho!).
All BS aside, any UConn fan that doesn't think being stuck where they are in the American is going to have a major negative impact on their basketball moving forward is delusional as hell. The real problem for UConn is that there's schools that have more to offer other conferences than UConn has...
Well, at least we're in the top 20% of FBS academically and not the bottom 20%.
And Connecticut is a better place to live than Louisville.
We'd rather be us.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-04-2015 07:18 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (02-04-2015 07:14 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote: UConn's where they belong as far as I'm concerned. And for all the chest thumping they're doing about winning last year's title, it's worth pointing out that they did so with recruits they brought in while there was still a viable Big East conference. I'm still curious as to how long they're going to be able to sell last year's title to recruits and big time games against ECU and UCF on ESPN 8 (The Ocho!).
All BS aside, any UConn fan that doesn't think being stuck where they are in the American is going to have a major negative impact on their basketball moving forward is delusional as hell. The real problem for UConn is that there's schools that have more to offer other conferences than UConn has...
Well, at least we're in the top 20% of FBS academically and not the bottom 20%.
And Connecticut is a better place to live than Louisville.
We'd rather be us.
Clearly UCONN a non-AAU school is academically INFERIOR to P5 schools that are AAU members.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-04-2015 07:18 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (02-04-2015 07:14 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote: UConn's where they belong as far as I'm concerned. And for all the chest thumping they're doing about winning last year's title, it's worth pointing out that they did so with recruits they brought in while there was still a viable Big East conference. I'm still curious as to how long they're going to be able to sell last year's title to recruits and big time games against ECU and UCF on ESPN 8 (The Ocho!).
All BS aside, any UConn fan that doesn't think being stuck where they are in the American is going to have a major negative impact on their basketball moving forward is delusional as hell. The real problem for UConn is that there's schools that have more to offer other conferences than UConn has...
Well, at least we're in the top 20% of FBS academically and not the bottom 20%.
And Connecticut is a better place to live than Louisville.
We'd rather be us.
I'd take living in Louisville any day over Hartford....just saying
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-03-2015 10:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (02-03-2015 09:43 PM)BE4evah Wrote: (02-03-2015 07:24 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: (02-03-2015 04:03 PM)BE4evah Wrote: The UConn board has a bonafide insider. We frequently say anybody with some access is an insider. He is the real deal. His screen name is fishy. He has ties to the highest members of the university. There's no doubt that there is a lot going on in their athletic department.
This is what he wrote:
"6) I absolutely hate the AAC. I despise how they're selling us out to help the rest of the conference sell tickets on their Saturday dates and I hate how they are selling us out to fill gaps in weekend programming on Sundays. The defending champion just played a game 1,800 miles from campus in front of a dozen fans. You can hear the high-fives in Bristol, Syracuse and Chestnut Hill.
6) These are dangerous times for UConn athletics. If you want to see what happens when a program gets aced out of a major conference and has to make due in a mid-major league, take a look at Houston. They are the cautionary tale."
I know this sounds counter intuitive, but why should a university in the grand scheme of things care about football, basketball and sports so much? UConn is a great academic school. Much better than the the great majority in the Power 5. So is Boston University, UC Davis, UC San Diego. UConn had a great run in bb and an awesome decade in FBS (2000-2010). So what if they become on par athletically with UMass, URI, New Hampshire? The world doesn't end. There are loads of other sports teams out there. If you're into college football, you have the sleeping giant Rutgers, BC, Syracuse all to root for at the "power" level. I don't know if the previous poster is correct that there will be political and academic push back to the drain that athletics has on the school, but in the end, I wonder if it matters all that much?
UConn is a stronger academic school than a "great majority" of schools currently in the Power 5? Yeah, ok.....
Did you say that or did this supposed insider say it? That is a poor choice of descriptive words for whomever actually said that.
Just to be clear, the academic comments are mine. And yes, quite clearly, UConn is a stronger academic school than a great majority of P5 schools.
Without dithering too much on methodologies, suffice to say that if a college has students with better SAT scores and is more highly ranked in the gold standard of rankings (US News), it is more strong academically. Again, cold hard math of the intelligence of the student bodybody (SAT scores) plus the most widely used publication by administrators, prospective students, parents, and guidance counselors
says the following:
Thus, UConn is stronger academically than 60% of the P5:
ACC
NC State
Louisville
Florida State
Clemson
Syracuse
Virginia Tech
Big 12
Texas Tech
WVU
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
TCU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Big Ten
Iowa
Rutgers
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Nebraska
PAC 12
Utah
Oregon
Oregon State
Arizona State
Arizona
Washington State
Colorado
SEC
Alabama
Auburn
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Arkansas
Texas A&M
LSU
Missouri
According to US News ... UConn, SMU, and Syracuse are ranked #58, which places all three in the top 20% of FBS.
For you non-math majors, that means those three schools are better than 80%+ of the FBS schools.
If you were around academics and put up that list you would get laughed out of the room. I'm sure you accurately put how UConn was ranked on USNews and World Report. But that has little more validity than a Miko post. UConn is not above 60% of the P5 in just about any other ranking system (not that UConn is bad, but you are ranking them way too high).
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-04-2015 07:14 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote: UConn's where they belong as far as I'm concerned. And for all the chest thumping they're doing about winning last year's title, it's worth pointing out that they did so with recruits they brought in while there was still a viable Big East conference. I'm still curious as to how long they're going to be able to sell last year's title to recruits and big time games against ECU and UCF on ESPN 8 (The Ocho!).
All BS aside, any UConn fan that doesn't think being stuck where they are in the American is going to have a major negative impact on their basketball moving forward is delusional as hell. The real problem for UConn is that there's schools that have more to offer other conferences than UConn has...
Unless, of course, they start awarding bonus points in athletic contests for USNWR ranking.
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BE4evah
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
That is why I used BOTH SAT score and US News.
It's hard to argue that if a student body is smarter, that that reflects positively on the academic quality of the school.
Additionally, love it or hate it, US News is used by administrators, students, admissions offices, guidance counselors and parents. To believe otherwise is naive.
While it doesn't change the narrative, I forgot Kentucky in the above list.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
I wouldn't worry too much about UConn basketball. UNLV and Louisville won titles in crap leagues. Heck, Butler went to 2 NCAA finals before they were in the Big East. UConn has won 4 of the last 15 titles in Men's Basketball and .. I'm not looking it up but probably half of the last dozen in Women's Basketball. And they have a pipeline of blue chips and a coach every team in the NBA wants... I'm not too worried. Football sucks. It may continue to suck for awhile... I don't think it matters.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
UConn will be fine. It is still the only game in town in a state of nearly 4 million. It's our only option for high level sports in state, other than Yale and Quinnipiac hockey. Our fan base is established. We'll survive some down years on the field/court and being in a non-P5 conference. What I'm more concerned about is overall interest in college sports declining in CT due to the loss of the Big East. I don't think the AAC can ever be expected to fill that void and the P5 conferences are not really relevant here.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
I wouldn't say that, NYC and Boston aren't all that far from Connecticut but that said, UConn will be fine.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
UConn needs to hire Greg Schiano as head football coach and dominate the AAC.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-05-2015 12:07 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I wouldn't say that, NYC and Boston aren't all that far from Connecticut but that said, UConn will be fine.
People in CT do follow NYC and Boston pro teams, particularly the Patriots, Red Sox, Giants, and Yankees. There is no college program outside of CT that has a significant following in CT though, IMO. Of course some of the traditional national programs have a few fans like ND football and UNC hoops. But there is no widespread interest in the ACC or the B1G, for example, simply because they have programs from nearby states.
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
Fairifield County is in New York's MSA and the northeast is only a hop skip and jump away from Foxborough, let alone Boston.
But as I and you said, things will be fine.
(This post was last modified: 02-07-2015 11:04 AM by C2__.)
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Re: RE: Has UConn come full circle?
(02-05-2015 12:20 PM)_C2_ Wrote: Fairifield County is in New York's MSA and the northwest is only a hop skip and jump away from Foxborough, let alone Boston.
But as I and you said, things will be fine.
Just because Storrs is next to Fairfields DMA, does not mean you are in the NYC DMA. Yes you can follow the Pro Sports easily, but how many in NYC is watching you?
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RE: Has UConn come full circle?
UConn should go Indy in FB, playing Albany, Stony Brook, Fordham and the like, and try to get back into the BE for BB and all other sports.
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