Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN
.@CFBPlayoff committee will discuss if Navy should be eligible for future NY6 bowls

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-committee

The College Football Playoff's management committee will discuss Navy's eligibility for this season's New Year's Six bowls because of the academy's new conference affiliation and the timing of its annual game against Army.

Navy will join the American Athletic Conference in the fall.

The commissioners' concern is if the Midshipmen are ranked high enough to earn one of the New Year's Six bowl bids - and then lose the following week to Army. That loss would not count toward Navy's final ranking, penalizing other teams that would have earned a New Year's Six bowl bid if the loss was factored in.

Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson and Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson said this isn't a Navy-Army issue, but believe any schools playing after the final rankings are released should be ineligible for a spot in the College Football Playoff or a New Year's Six bowl.

"All games should be done by Selection Sunday for those teams to be considered for a College Football Playoff bowl," Thompson said.

The College Football Playoff management committee (the 10 FBS conference commissioners plus Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick) will discuss the Navy-Army situation at its next meeting in April, several commissioners said.

(01-28-2015 01:24 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN
.@CFBPlayoff committee will discuss if Navy should be eligible for future NY6 bowls

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-committee

The College Football Playoff's management committee will discuss Navy's eligibility for this season's New Year's Six bowls because of the academy's new conference affiliation and the timing of its annual game against Army.

Navy will join the American Athletic Conference in the fall.

The commissioners' concern is if the Midshipmen are ranked high enough to earn one of the New Year's Six bowl bids - and then lose the following week to Army. That loss would not count toward Navy's final ranking, penalizing other teams that would have earned a New Year's Six bowl bid if the loss was factored in.

Hmm, never thought about that.

Kevin McGuire ‏@KevinOnCFB
The @CFBPlayoff wants to be a stickler for tradition but would possibly punish Navy for playing the most traditional game in the sport. OK.


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My thoughts exactly.

(01-28-2015 01:33 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Kevin McGuire ‏@KevinOnCFB
The @CFBPlayoff wants to be a stickler for tradition but would possibly punish Navy for playing the most traditional game in the sport. OK.


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My thoughts exactly.

^ this.

(01-28-2015 01:33 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Kevin McGuire ‏@KevinOnCFB
The @CFBPlayoff wants to be a stickler for tradition but would possibly punish Navy for playing the most traditional game in the sport. OK.


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My thoughts exactly.

x100000. What a load of crap.

In the last 50 years, Army and Navy have been ranked in the final polls three times. Army finished #24 (1996), Navy finished #17 (1978) and #24 (2004).

This problem about them making the CFP is really not a problem.

...Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson and Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson said this isn't a Navy-Army issue, but believe any schools playing after the final rankings are released should be ineligible for a spot in the College Football Playoff or a New Year's Six bowl.

"All games should be done by Selection Sunday for those teams to be considered for a College Football Playoff bowl," Thompson said.

G5 wars? How about waiting on the G5 selection until AFTER the game. I mean this is Army and Navy. They're giving that respect to Notre Dame - right?

I'm pretty sure this is not even going to be an issue next year.

(01-28-2015 01:46 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  ...Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson and Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson said this isn't a Navy-Army issue, but believe any schools playing after the final rankings are released should be ineligible for a spot in the College Football Playoff or a New Year's Six bowl.

"All games should be done by Selection Sunday for those teams to be considered for a College Football Playoff bowl," Thompson said.

G5 wars? How about waiting on the G5 selection until AFTER the game. I mean this is Army and Navy. They're giving that respect to Notre Dame - right?

They've been playing for 125 years. "The next game in 2015 is scheduled for Philadelphia on December 12."

(01-28-2015 01:48 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  I'm pretty sure this is not even going to be an issue next year.

That's not the point at all

(01-28-2015 01:59 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(01-28-2015 01:46 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  ...Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson and Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson said this isn't a Navy-Army issue, but believe any schools playing after the final rankings are released should be ineligible for a spot in the College Football Playoff or a New Year's Six bowl.

"All games should be done by Selection Sunday for those teams to be considered for a College Football Playoff bowl," Thompson said.

G5 wars? How about waiting on the G5 selection until AFTER the game. I mean this is Army and Navy. They're giving that respect to Notre Dame - right?

They've been playing for 125 years. "The next game in 2015 is scheduled for Philadelphia on December 12."

BTW -- Yes this IS an Army Navy issue. This IS a special case. Move the fracking G5 rankings.

(01-28-2015 01:24 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson and Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson said this isn't a Navy-Army issue, but believe any schools playing after the final rankings are released should be ineligible for a spot in the College Football Playoff or a New Year's Six bowl.

"All games should be done by Selection Sunday for those teams to be considered for a College Football Playoff bowl," Thompson said.

He is right...because if Navy can play a regular season game on the 2nd Weekend of December and not have a loss hurt their playoff access status...then others might do the same (i.e. play a non-conf game on that same 2nd weekend too, maybe a tough one at that), so a loss wouldn't hurt them either.

Similar to how FAMU and Bethune Cookman wanted to play in late Nov...which made both ineligible for Div I-AA playoffs...but that was their decision.

If Navy wants to play the week after Selection Sunday (to get all the publicity of being the only Div I-A game on that day)...then they should be ineligible for any access bowl slot.

MWC hates Navy.

Here is a crazy idea, how about allowing it to be the fist game of the season. Play the Saturday before Labor day weekend to open the season. Not that I agree with reasoning for the CFP but it does seem crazy to have the possibility of Navy play a CCG and still have a game left in the season. In addition, while other ACC will have played 12 games, Navy will have only played 11 games. It may not sound big, but Navy is getting one additional bye week that other AAC teams do not get. It would be a pretty cool way to kickoff the season.

(01-28-2015 02:03 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(01-28-2015 01:48 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  I'm pretty sure this is not even going to be an issue next year.

That's not the point at all

You're right. These are the men and women we expect to go fight and die in our wars. If Navy's record merits the Access Bowl (no matter the conference) those players should be there --- I mean if they do this it's pathetic. The other stuff I understand but this -- sorry.

Quote:Aresco, whose conference will hold a league title game for the first time this year, said he already has discussed the Navy situation with Hancock and several commissioners.

"We're perfectly aware of the issues, and it behooves us to solve it," Aresco said. "It's not a game anyone wants to move."

Aresco said he has some "creative solutions" that would allow the Navy-Army game to be factored into the final rankings, but said it was premature to share them publicly.

I hope his "creative solutions" are better than the ones he talked about for a bowl game for the conference champion, or the TV deal. It's probably more likely that he doesn't really have any.

(01-28-2015 02:08 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-28-2015 01:24 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson and Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson said this isn't a Navy-Army issue, but believe any schools playing after the final rankings are released should be ineligible for a spot in the College Football Playoff or a New Year's Six bowl.

"All games should be done by Selection Sunday for those teams to be considered for a College Football Playoff bowl," Thompson said.

He is right...because if Navy can play a regular season game on the 2nd Weekend of December and not have a loss hurt their playoff access status...then others might do the same (i.e. play a non-conf game on that same 2nd weekend too, maybe a tough one at that), so a loss wouldn't hurt them either.

Similar to how FAMU and Bethune Cookman wanted to play in late Nov...which made both ineligible for Div I-AA playoffs...but that was their decision.

If Navy wants to play the week after Selection Sunday (to get all the publicity of being the only Div I-A game on that day)...then they should be ineligible for any access bowl slot.

IOW, that IS their bowl? I can see the logic in that. Still...

This is about the G5 spot as the champ of the American (which will be decided prior to Selection Sunday).

If Navy wins the American in the title game, they will be ineligible for the spot because of their game against Army a week later.

So the American will have to appoint the loser of its championship game as its champion to get the G5 access spot if its Navy that wins it.

Or the CFP will consider Army/Navy exempt because of their tradition on the field.....I don't see why they can't just do that.

(01-28-2015 01:46 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  ...Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson and Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson said this isn't a Navy-Army issue, but believe any schools playing after the final rankings are released should be ineligible for a spot in the College Football Playoff or a New Year's Six bowl.

"All games should be done by Selection Sunday for those teams to be considered for a College Football Playoff bowl," Thompson said.

G5 wars? How about waiting on the G5 selection until AFTER the game. I mean this is Army and Navy. They're giving that respect to Notre Dame - right?

Really? Pray tell---who else plays after Selection Sunday? I doubt it ever matters, but if it did, is anyone really concerned that a top 25 Navy team might lose to Army?

Hope the CFP and others pick on Navy for a fight. They are they only school with enough congressional support to fight back and win. Hubris and over reaching are the downfall of every bloated, arrogant monopoly.