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RE: Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 11:18 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:15 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:01 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 10:50 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  Can someone give a overview of the article? I assume it's about people not showing up and renewing their seats?

Basically about a fan who has been attending games since Finch played against Neumann as freshmen. A guy who finally had enough and gave up his seats after last year.

So in his view, last years team was the worst team in about 40 years? I've seen alot worse. Maybe the real issue is the amount of money required to have the right to purchase the seats is driving people away.

I've seen worse too and support was bad under Pimp Price, but that can't happen. This is the lifeblood of Memphis.

Donations had been down for years. It was a different era back then. You have to remember when we moved from the coliseum a lot of people who had been season ticket holders for years got moved because of the whole "tiger club" thing. There was already some animosity over that. Some of those folks are the ones that are now in the upper deck mid court. You could buy an upper level ticket outside for $5 and go sit next to the fat boy in the student section. Nobody even checked you ticket back then
01-28-2015 11:22 AM
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RE: Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 11:19 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:10 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:06 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  ...depending on who the new guy is

I don't think it necessarily depends on WHO the new guy is - though a name certainly helps at the very beginning - I think it matters what the new guy DOES.

If he comes in, keeps the roster pretty much intact, keeps the recruits, shores up any needed late recruiting and things of that nature, then the fans will be excited come next season.

Not many AD's that would make a coaching change in this situation.

One season a seen in a vacuum and you're probably correct. Especially considering the previous four were satisfactory.

From the outside, it looks one way.

But from inside, we know all the tawdry parts - the suspensions, player transfers, repeated blowouts, etc.

I think an AD has to consider everything in this situation and then pose a question - will it get that much better in year 7?
01-28-2015 11:23 AM
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RE: Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 11:22 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:18 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:15 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:01 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 10:50 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  Can someone give a overview of the article? I assume it's about people not showing up and renewing their seats?

Basically about a fan who has been attending games since Finch played against Neumann as freshmen. A guy who finally had enough and gave up his seats after last year.

So in his view, last years team was the worst team in about 40 years? I've seen alot worse. Maybe the real issue is the amount of money required to have the right to purchase the seats is driving people away.

I've seen worse too and support was bad under Pimp Price, but that can't happen. This is the lifeblood of Memphis.

Donations had been down for years. It was a different era back then. You have to remember when we moved from the coliseum a lot of people who had been season ticket holders for years got moved because of the whole "tiger club" thing. There was already some animosity over that. Some of those folks are the ones that are now in the upper deck mid court. You could buy an upper level ticket outside for $5 and go sit next to the fat boy in the student section. Nobody even checked you ticket back then

What? I wasn't fat, it was water retention.
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(01-28-2015 09:59 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's okay. Wolo called out "a local columnist" and said "enough already." Wolo implied the "local columnist" must have a personal beef with Pastner.

Wolo needs to be glad that no one is banging on him to be gone. 03-lmfao
01-28-2015 11:29 AM
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Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 11:22 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:18 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:15 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:01 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 10:50 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  Can someone give a overview of the article? I assume it's about people not showing up and renewing their seats?

Basically about a fan who has been attending games since Finch played against Neumann as freshmen. A guy who finally had enough and gave up his seats after last year.

So in his view, last years team was the worst team in about 40 years? I've seen alot worse. Maybe the real issue is the amount of money required to have the right to purchase the seats is driving people away.

I've seen worse too and support was bad under Pimp Price, but that can't happen. This is the lifeblood of Memphis.

Donations had been down for years. It was a different era back then. You have to remember when we moved from the coliseum a lot of people who had been season ticket holders for years got moved because of the whole "tiger club" thing. There was already some animosity over that. Some of those folks are the ones that are now in the upper deck mid court. You could buy an upper level ticket outside for $5 and go sit next to the fat boy in the student section. Nobody even checked you ticket back then

Gotcha. I was in school then and we could sit anywhere. That changed when Cal got there. My last year was his first.

Fat boy was hardcore.
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RE: Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 11:29 AM)Strat57 Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 09:59 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's okay. Wolo called out "a local columnist" and said "enough already." Wolo implied the "local columnist" must have a personal beef with Pastner.

Wolo needs to be glad that no one is banging on him to be gone. 03-lmfao

I can't imagine listening to him like we used to listen Big Jack. Then it was all we had.
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RE: Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 11:29 AM)Strat57 Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 09:59 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's okay. Wolo called out "a local columnist" and said "enough already." Wolo implied the "local columnist" must have a personal beef with Pastner.

Wolo needs to be glad that no one is banging on him to be gone. 03-lmfao


Come on you know George, Ira and Van got his back lol. Wolo is untouchable
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RE: Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 11:23 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:19 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:10 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:06 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  ...depending on who the new guy is

I don't think it necessarily depends on WHO the new guy is - though a name certainly helps at the very beginning - I think it matters what the new guy DOES.

If he comes in, keeps the roster pretty much intact, keeps the recruits, shores up any needed late recruiting and things of that nature, then the fans will be excited come next season.

Not many AD's that would make a coaching change in this situation.

One season a seen in a vacuum and you're probably correct. Especially considering the previous four were satisfactory.

From the outside, it looks one way.

But from inside, we know all the tawdry parts - the suspensions, player transfers, repeated blowouts, etc.

I think an AD has to consider everything in this situation and then pose a question - will it get that much better in year 7?

...especially an AD who actually knows what he's doing, like Bowen.

Pastner's hard-headedness and obvious tendencies to be a control freak don't help him when it comes to these questions.
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RE: Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 11:23 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:19 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:10 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 11:06 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  ...depending on who the new guy is

I don't think it necessarily depends on WHO the new guy is - though a name certainly helps at the very beginning - I think it matters what the new guy DOES.

If he comes in, keeps the roster pretty much intact, keeps the recruits, shores up any needed late recruiting and things of that nature, then the fans will be excited come next season.

Not many AD's that would make a coaching change in this situation.

One season a seen in a vacuum and you're probably correct. Especially considering the previous four were satisfactory.

From the outside, it looks one way.

But from inside, we know all the tawdry parts - the suspensions, player transfers, repeated blowouts, etc.

I think an AD has to consider everything in this situation and then pose a question - will it get that much better in year 7?

It will get better, but who knows how much better. As MTC stated, maybe you force Pastner to hire a strong bench coach.

I would think that that would be a way for the program to save face. On one hand, the school wouldn't be firing him and there is definitely the perception that he isn't a strong X&O's guy.
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RE: Dayum.....Calkins Was A Little Hard On Josh This Morning
(01-28-2015 10:09 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(01-28-2015 09:59 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's okay. Wolo called out "a local columnist" and said "enough already." Wolo implied the "local columnist" must have a personal beef with Pastner.

Seriously? The truth hurts wolo.

Incredible.

It's easy to see why Wolo would say this. It makes Wolo's job easier if he stays on Josh's good side. Also, Wolo and Calkins are competing for ratings on the radio for an hour every day.
01-29-2015 08:47 AM
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