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RE: Benghazi Select Committee - GOP Business as Usual?
(01-27-2015 05:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (01-27-2015 05:21 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (01-27-2015 04:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (01-27-2015 04:54 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (01-27-2015 04:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Yes, and the state department acknowledged the fact that they denied requests less than a month after the attack. They're covering up nothing!
State Dept. acknowledges rejecting requests for more security in Benghazi ~ 10/10/12
And running out what clock?
There have been countless pages of documents requested and released. There have been 6 previous investigations. None of them have found anything to point to any sort of intelligence failure, cover-up, or White House involvement. There has been nothing found to point to any sort of criminal behavior, so the longer this goes on is not going to keep anyone from going to jail. There has been nothing to point to any impeachable offense, so there is no point to running out Obama's term. Hillary has already left the State Department.
And to be truthful, the longer this draws out, it probably helps the Republicans keep this as a campaign issue to run against Hillary with, so you should actually be hoping this goes into triple OT! 
And no, I'm not building any straw-men here. I called this a terrorist attack the day after it happened. I know they need more security in more hostile regions and regions with past history. And so did Stevens and the State Department. They're not denying that!
Who? Who denied? State Department is NOT a person. Who? name a name. Then have them answer why? Why did they admittedly deny the additional requests?
And I called it a terrorist act, because it was so glaringly obvious, at the time it was happening or being reported. So nee-ner.
But that aside- So why did the most powerful man on the planet, with all the intelligence one could possible have at ones disposal, call it a Utube "demonstration" 2 weeks later, to an International assembly? That doesn't strike you as at least "odd"?
There's fire with this smoke, and the very lengths these people are going to to obfuscate the issue and delay the release of the information should do more than raise a few eyebrows.
Problem is our fourth Estate is more consumed with footballs and ugly womens fat assses to do their job. And as the cheerleaders they are they too are hoping the American people simply forget about this and it quietly goes away. I happen to think the murdered Ambassador and the brave guys that went to his defense deserve more than simply being lied to- the victims, their parents, spouses, kids and their coffins as well.
The state department spokesmen issued the statement I presume...it was likely in the article I posted. Besides, their own investigation concluded as much and four folks were let go.
And bringing up the video again?
Quote:In the immediate aftermath of the attack, intelligence about who carried it out and why was contradictory, the report found. That led Susan Rice, then U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, to inaccurately assert that the attack had evolved from a protest, when in fact there had been no protest. But it was intelligence analysts, not political appointees, who made the wrong call, the committee found. The report did not conclude that Rice or any other government official acted in bad faith or intentionally misled the American people.
House Republican investigation clears Susan Rice over Benghazi attack
Move along.
It's pretty clear I wasn't asking who issued some stupid, misleading half-truthed "statement", but you know that.
Who? Who denied the additional security requests and why? You're talking potential life and death decision here, this isn't done at the "Quartermasters" level. Someone high up made a decision here and we don't know who that was. THAT seems a pretty obvious place to start.
This is akin to someone blaming the ballboy for deflating those footballs when hundreds of millions of dollars are on the line and trip to the Super bowl. Only this is much worse. These things don't just happen, someone made them happen.
So why did you, by your own admission, know it was a terrorist only a day later? Why did I know it was a terrorist attack the day of? (nee-ner, nee-ner). Why was it "intelligence" analysts back in DeeCee making this schit up out of whole clothe, instead of their listening to the people THAT WERE THERE?
It amazes that you see nothing here. Only it doesn't. How many times are you bald faced lied to before you cast a skeptical eye?
Dude, it's pretty clear that you're totally ignoring what I've always said on the matter.
I do see problems here. I've never said otherwise. They should have had more security with him. But it's real easy to say that now in hindsight.
But we'll just have to agree to disagree. To me, it doesn't matter who denied the request for more resources for Stevens because that would still not guarantee to have prevented this. You can't make that claim otherwise with 100% certainty. So, if you're like owl, you're never going to be satisfied because nobody is ultimately really at fault for these deaths (other than the actual killers) that would rise to the level of a perp walk and jail time. It doesn't work that way with this stuff and it never has. Have you always had this mindset? Who do you want jailed for 9/11, the USS Cole and other events?
And with the video, the WH never said it was the only factor, yet you seem to be continually asserting that. They only said it played a role...and based on what I read from people on the ground it did play a role. Geez, it was a complitaced event that took place half way around the world...but some seemed to want the whole thing solved in a day or two. 
And I only said that I knew it was a terrorist attack the next day because that's when I found out about it...with them being hours ahead and all.
Yet days later Rice went out and lied through her teeth about it, and WEEKS later zerO did the same thing, only to an international audience. Cankles to the parents, wives, children and coffins of the deceased.
Meanwhile two slobs sitting behind their PC's doing their JOBS completely unrelated to national security, the State Dept. or the safety of our Ambasasodors overseas knew it was terrorism almost immediately.
And as far as I know, no one requested additional security at Logan airport, the Twin Towers, the Cole and the others. So who denied those requests?
Answer- no one.
Question- who denied the additional security forces requested by the Ambassador himself only days before?
Answer- curiously we don't know. But someone does, don't they?
(This post was last modified: 01-27-2015 06:04 PM by JMUDunk.)
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Benghazi Select Committee - GOP Business as Usual?
