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You can just look at Steve's body language
after a loss, and he looks like a beaten man. And the after the game radio show isn't the first time he didn't come on. I seem to recall one game where no coach showed up for the show.
I understand how he must feel. He is trying everything he can to win. He's a fierce competitor. But he just doesn't have the talent to compete with a lot of teams in the league. Especially with inside players. But we've never been able to recruit good, athletic, inside players, at least depth wise. If one goes down, we're dead.
If we're ever going to have a respectable men's program, we are going to have to find a coach who can recruit against other SBC teams.
Is there one out there that we can afford? I don't know. But you can't keep doing the same things over and over, and expect different results. You know what that is the definition of!
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
(01-25-2015 11:10 AM)outsideualr Wrote: after a loss, and he looks like a beaten man. And the after the game radio show isn't the first time he didn't come on. I seem to recall one game where no coach showed up for the show.
I understand how he must feel. He is trying everything he can to win. He's a fierce competitor. But he just doesn't have the talent to compete with a lot of teams in the league. Especially with inside players. But we've never been able to recruit good, athletic, inside players, at least depth wise. If one goes down, we're dead.
If we're ever going to have a respectable men's program, we are going to have to find a coach who can recruit against other SBC teams.
Is there one out there that we can afford? I don't know. But you can't keep doing the same things over and over, and expect different results. You know what that is the definition of!
I do remember, at least, one game where a coach did not show up after a loss and that is inappropriate. But from what I can tell the coaches rotate, who will do the postgame interview, win or lose.
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
You know just how bad things are when a coach doesn't show up for a post game interview!
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You can just look at Steve's body language
We do have the talent, the system we run doesn't maximize the talent we have. We have at least 3 players playing out of position. Positions they have never played until they got here. You recruit them because you saw something they do really well at THEIR positions in high school or JUCO then get them here at the D1 level and try to make them something else. Oh!!and may I say he also over coaches. We play our best basketball when we are down 12 or more with little time on the clock, when the guys just have to play and he sits down and doesn't have much to say. If he is still here next year, I believe a couple of his players won't be.
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
The odds of some players not being here next year are always pretty good. There haven't been too many seasons where all the players who were supposed to come back did.
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
(01-25-2015 11:10 AM)outsideualr Wrote: If we're ever going to have a respectable men's program, we are going to have to find a coach who can recruit against other SBC teams.
Is there one out there that we can afford?
First of all, I am sorry about how this season is going for you guys. You deserve better.
Here is a good coach if you all ever need one: http://athletics.bellarmine.edu/coaches.aspx?rc=100
Scott Davenport. He won the Kentucky State championship as a high school coach, and he won the division II national championship as a collegiate coach. He was an assistant at Louisville for a long time (under both Crum and Pitino). Not sure how old he is but I think hiring successful DII coaches will catch on. Wisconsin Green Bay did it with great success. We did it (two Sun Belt tournament championships and we are currently 7-0 in CUSA). Even Missouri hired a successful DII coach. The basic skills required to win a DII championship are the same in DI. You have to be personable, you have to know the game. You have to have a certain confidence or attitude.
Just a thought.
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2015 10:31 AM by Hilltopper2K.)
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
Thanks for your good wishes. We miss you guys in our conference. You were always a class program. And your point about hiring successful DII coaches is well taken. There is no better example than our Joe Foley.
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01-26-2015 10:29 AM |
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
(01-26-2015 10:24 AM)Hilltopper2K Wrote: (01-25-2015 11:10 AM)outsideualr Wrote: If we're ever going to have a respectable men's program, we are going to have to find a coach who can recruit against other SBC teams.
Is there one out there that we can afford?
First of all, I am sorry about how this season is going for you guys. You deserve better.
Here is a good coach if you all ever need one: http://athletics.bellarmine.edu/coaches.aspx?rc=100
Scott Davenport. He won the Kentucky State championship as a high school coach, and he won the division II national championship as a collegiate coach. He was an assistant at Louisville for a long time (under both Crum and Pitino). Not sure how old he is but I think hiring successful DII coaches will catch on. Wisconsin Green Bay did it with great success. We did it (two Sun Belt tournament championships and we are currently 7-0 in CUSA). Even Missouri hired a successful DII coach. The basic skills required to win a DII championship are the same in DI. You have to be personable, you have to know the game. You have to have a certain confidence or attitude.
Just a thought.
Thanks for the advice. You guys made a pretty smooth transition to ConUSA. Undefeated and in first place. Wish you and MTSU would have stayed. They can have FIU and FAU. But if you and MTSU were still in our league, there is no doubt we would be a stronger men's basketball conference than ConUSA. Actually, both of you leaving hurt women's basketball quite a bit more than men's basketball.
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
(01-26-2015 10:24 AM)Hilltopper2K Wrote: (01-25-2015 11:10 AM)outsideualr Wrote: If we're ever going to have a respectable men's program, we are going to have to find a coach who can recruit against other SBC teams.
Is there one out there that we can afford?
First of all, I am sorry about how this season is going for you guys. You deserve better.
Here is a good coach if you all ever need one: http://athletics.bellarmine.edu/coaches.aspx?rc=100
Scott Davenport. He won the Kentucky State championship as a high school coach, and he won the division II national championship as a collegiate coach. He was an assistant at Louisville for a long time (under both Crum and Pitino). Not sure how old he is but I think hiring successful DII coaches will catch on. Wisconsin Green Bay did it with great success. We did it (two Sun Belt tournament championships and we are currently 7-0 in CUSA). Even Missouri hired a successful DII coach. The basic skills required to win a DII championship are the same in DI. You have to be personable, you have to know the game. You have to have a certain confidence or attitude.
Just a thought.
Looks like a winner, but he has to be a little older than what we'd probably need. He coached ten years at a high school, several years as a college assistant and ten years at his current job. Like to find one with his credentials at the DII level. However I wouldn't discount him just because of his age. I'd say any coach we would hire would probably need to be under 50.
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
(01-26-2015 08:47 PM)outsideualr Wrote: (01-26-2015 10:24 AM)Hilltopper2K Wrote: (01-25-2015 11:10 AM)outsideualr Wrote: If we're ever going to have a respectable men's program, we are going to have to find a coach who can recruit against other SBC teams.
Is there one out there that we can afford?
First of all, I am sorry about how this season is going for you guys. You deserve better.
Here is a good coach if you all ever need one: http://athletics.bellarmine.edu/coaches.aspx?rc=100
Scott Davenport. He won the Kentucky State championship as a high school coach, and he won the division II national championship as a collegiate coach. He was an assistant at Louisville for a long time (under both Crum and Pitino). Not sure how old he is but I think hiring successful DII coaches will catch on. Wisconsin Green Bay did it with great success. We did it (two Sun Belt tournament championships and we are currently 7-0 in CUSA). Even Missouri hired a successful DII coach. The basic skills required to win a DII championship are the same in DI. You have to be personable, you have to know the game. You have to have a certain confidence or attitude.
Just a thought.
Looks like a winner, but he has to be a little older than what we'd probably need. He coached ten years at a high school, several years as a college assistant and ten years at his current job. Like to find one with his credentials at the DII level. However I wouldn't discount him just because of his age. I'd say any coach we would hire would probably need to be under 50.
I'd prefer a young guy between 30-35, but wouldn't rule out an older guy who has been a winner and a good recruiter. Hell, Adolf Rupp would be better than what we've had lately.
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RE: You can just look at Steve's body language
Who's going to dig him up? Not me.
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