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RE: C-USA meeting unlikely to resolve big issues
Depending who "next in line" for a CUSA invite, the conference could extend a bid on 6/30/2014 and it would be accepted same day. This would be the case for Ga State, UL-Lafayette, Texas State, etc. So waiting until June doesn't change the timeline of getting a new team by 2016. With as much expansion and replacement work that has been done, I am sure the conference has an entire file cabinet on every candidate.
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(01-26-2015 12:41 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 12:22 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  i don't see why CUSA can't give UAB a one year probation to try and get their football program worked out

Then what good are by-laws? You either enforce them or change them.

I think you make a fair point, but most would agree that UAB's situation is unusual. If people that matter are telling C-USA that things are going on behind the scenes to bring football back I am all for giving them a year to nail it down. If the conference is not hearing that then UAB has done this to themselves and we are just executing their wishes. I suspect the former.
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I think waiting until June is fine. But, by June, UAB would need to have finished the review and be ready to commit to football. I think by spring meeting, they need to know their future so we can know ours. If they are willing to commit to football again, then just need to agree on a timeline. Obviously, UAB won't be ready to compete FBS by 2016. NCAA may not even allow that. They may have to go through the transition process.
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(01-26-2015 12:42 PM)galojah Wrote:  Depending who "next in line" for a CUSA invite, the conference could extend a bid on 6/30/2014 and it would be accepted same day. This would be the case for Ga State, UL-Lafayette, Texas State, etc. So waiting until June doesn't change the timeline of getting a new team by 2016. With as much expansion and replacement work that has been done, I am sure the conference has an entire file cabinet on every candidate.

Based on what I've heard....my sources say Ga. State is not on the list.
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(01-26-2015 01:31 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Based on what I've heard....my sources say Ga. State is not on the list.

I'm okay with that. Who is on the list?
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(01-26-2015 01:19 PM)galojah Wrote:  I think waiting until June is fine. But, by June, UAB would need to have finished the review and be ready to commit to football. I think by spring meeting, they need to know their future so we can know ours. If they are willing to commit to football again, then just need to agree on a timeline. Obviously, UAB won't be ready to compete FBS by 2016. NCAA may not even allow that. They may have to go through the transition process.

I'd think they have to as there would no longer be considered FBS.
However, its not like they gave CUSA a year to transition, they just dropped it immediately and other teams playing UAB OOC had to find replacements at a last minute. There's no way to start a the FBS level immediately, they'd have to go through the process an Charlotte did.
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(01-26-2015 01:44 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 01:19 PM)galojah Wrote:  I think waiting until June is fine. But, by June, UAB would need to have finished the review and be ready to commit to football. I think by spring meeting, they need to know their future so we can know ours. If they are willing to commit to football again, then just need to agree on a timeline. Obviously, UAB won't be ready to compete FBS by 2016. NCAA may not even allow that. They may have to go through the transition process.

I'd think they have to as there would no longer be considered FBS.
However, its not like they gave CUSA a year to transition, they just dropped it immediately and other teams playing UAB OOC had to find replacements at a last minute. There's no way to start a the FBS level immediately, they'd have to go through the process an Charlotte did.

The NCAA can always grant a waiver if necessary, or they can be FCS Independent but play an all C-USA "OOC" schedule. If UAB is going to bring back football and stay in C-USA it would be in all our best interests to make sure they are as successful as possible.
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A key would be to retain Bill Clark.I dont have to repeat it--but the guy CAN COACH!!

p.s.-would also help if Watts would resign.
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(01-26-2015 01:33 PM)galojah Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 01:31 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Based on what I've heard....my sources say Ga. State is not on the list.

I'm okay with that. Who is on the list?

Last I heard...Louisiana, Texas State, and a couple "Ohio" based Mac schools.
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We can be ready in 2016. Not going into detail now but there is a plan. Yes we will still be FBS. No transition process.
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(01-26-2015 02:44 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 01:33 PM)galojah Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 01:31 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Based on what I've heard....my sources say Ga. State is not on the list.

I'm okay with that. Who is on the list?

Last I heard...Louisiana, Texas State, and a couple "Ohio" based Mac schools.

Who is Louisiana?
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(01-26-2015 02:48 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  We can be ready in 2016. Not going into detail now but there is a plan. Yes we will still be FBS. No transition process.

Care to expand? That is good news, but hard to believe.
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(01-26-2015 03:23 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 02:44 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 01:33 PM)galojah Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 01:31 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Based on what I've heard....my sources say Ga. State is not on the list.

I'm okay with that. Who is on the list?

Last I heard...Louisiana, Texas State, and a couple "Ohio" based Mac schools.

Who is Louisiana?

Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.
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(01-26-2015 04:10 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.

Strictly from a geography standpoint, Ohio and Miami would be my preference. They're not as far into the "frozen north" as all the other MAC schools. Both are in Southern Ohio. Easy drives for WKU and Marshall fans.

Of course, neither may be interested and for that matter, CUSA may not be interested.
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(01-26-2015 04:10 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.

Strictly from a geography standpoint, Ohio and Miami would be my preference. They're not as far into the "frozen north" as all the other MAC schools. Both are in Southern Ohio. Easy drives for WKU and Marshall fans.

Of course, neither may be interested and for that matter, CUSA may not be interested.

Many years back, CUSA and Toledo were in some talks. That in itself shows there might be some interest in getting into the state of Ohio.
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(01-26-2015 04:42 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 04:10 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.

Strictly from a geography standpoint, Ohio and Miami would be my preference. They're not as far into the "frozen north" as all the other MAC schools. Both are in Southern Ohio. Easy drives for WKU and Marshall fans.

Of course, neither may be interested and for that matter, CUSA may not be interested.

The problem with UL-L is La Tech. The problem with TX State might be that there are four other Texas schools. It seems to me that if it's a school in Ohio nobody would have many objections because they don't infringe on anyone's turf. Just my opinion.
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(01-26-2015 09:36 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 04:42 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 04:10 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.

Strictly from a geography standpoint, Ohio and Miami would be my preference. They're not as far into the "frozen north" as all the other MAC schools. Both are in Southern Ohio. Easy drives for WKU and Marshall fans.

Of course, neither may be interested and for that matter, CUSA may not be interested.

The problem with UL-L is La Tech. The problem with TX State might be that there are four other Texas schools. It seems to me that if it's a school in Ohio nobody would have many objections because they don't infringe on anyone's turf. Just my opinion.
It doesn't answer losing a western team and replacing east. USM deserves to play east.

The longer this draws out the more confident I am with UAB getting right. I'm just worried how they will rebuild. Building a competitive FBS team from scratch is tough work.

Really pisses me off what Watt did. UAB was 6-6 bright new coaching staff. All pissed away.
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Replacing UAB with an eastern school makes no sense whatsoever. If that happened, someone is going to have to shift to the West, and WKU or MTSU aren't going to do that. ULL is the obvious choice right now. They fit the geography and have invested heavily in athletics infrastructure. There are enough Texas schools, and even if there weren't, Texas State isn't quite ready yet. If UAB can't decide to bring back football by June, then replace them with ULL. Louisiana Tech will just have to deal with it.
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(01-26-2015 10:03 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Replacing UAB with an eastern school makes no sense whatsoever. If that happened, someone is going to have to shift to the West, and WKU or MTSU aren't going to do that. ULL is the obvious choice right now. They fit the geography and have invested heavily in athletics infrastructure. There are enough Texas schools, and even if there weren't, Texas State isn't quite ready yet. If UAB can't decide to bring back football by June, then replace them with ULL. Louisiana Tech will just have to deal with it.

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(01-26-2015 09:36 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 04:42 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 04:10 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Rajun Cajuns.

As for the two possible "Ohio" Mac schools....I was guessing Akron or Toledo. With that being said, there was an Ohio University fan on here in the last couple weeks that stated they were one of the schools in talks with CUSA. Cant say if that is accurate or not.

Strictly from a geography standpoint, Ohio and Miami would be my preference. They're not as far into the "frozen north" as all the other MAC schools. Both are in Southern Ohio. Easy drives for WKU and Marshall fans.

Of course, neither may be interested and for that matter, CUSA may not be interested.

The problem with UL-L is La Tech. The problem with TX State might be that there are four other Texas schools. It seems to me that if it's a school in Ohio nobody would have many objections because they don't infringe on anyone's turf. Just my opinion.

I agree we really need to add a new state if possible and I think ARK ST should be considered
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